I just wanted to give a shout out to Wyrom for the new "auffle" (auction/raffle) system he created for us. Not only does it provide a nice halfway system between auction and raffle but it allows for winning without being online at the time of the drawing. I realize there are still some bugs to work out but I for one welcome our new auffle overlord.
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Re: Auffles on 09/06/2016 08:11 AM CDT
Oh I added Auffles to the wiki:
https://gswiki.play.net/Auffle#Auffle
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Re: Auffles on 09/06/2016 08:25 AM CDT
Re: Auffles on 09/06/2016 08:31 AM CDT
It's a halfway between an auction and a raffle. Also Auffle made me giggle and I'm trying to make the name stick.
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Re: Auffles on 09/06/2016 08:48 AM CDT
Re: Auffles on 09/06/2016 01:33 PM CDT
Re: Auffles on 09/06/2016 01:33 PM CDT
>> I'd just call it Raffle 2.0
+1 for that very thing.
Until I read the wiki page, I had no idea this thread was about the new raffle mechanics.
Auctions ... are where multiple people place a BID to buy something.
Raffles ... are where multiple people buy a CHANCE to own something.
The new raffle tables had nothing at all to do with auctions, did they?
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+1 for that very thing.
Until I read the wiki page, I had no idea this thread was about the new raffle mechanics.
Auctions ... are where multiple people place a BID to buy something.
Raffles ... are where multiple people buy a CHANCE to own something.
The new raffle tables had nothing at all to do with auctions, did they?
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Re: Auffles on 09/06/2016 02:04 PM CDT
An auction allows the person who is willing to spend the most to win.
A raffle sells tickets and the winner is random.
An auffle allows the person willing to spend the most to have a better chance to win but is still random.
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A raffle sells tickets and the winner is random.
An auffle allows the person willing to spend the most to have a better chance to win but is still random.
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Re: Auffles on 09/06/2016 02:11 PM CDT
Re: Auffles on 09/06/2016 02:19 PM CDT
As I recall, many raffles years ago allowed multiple tickets. The professional pavises come to mind. Also this system was used recently at the Reim raffle, wasn't it?
So I'm not sure it's even "2.0" but more like "0.0" or something since that was one of the original kinds of raffles, even if it wasn't used so extensively in recent years.
Also, if you really do like it, I don't really suggest the pronunciation like "awful" besides that it has nothing to do with an auction really.
So I'm not sure it's even "2.0" but more like "0.0" or something since that was one of the original kinds of raffles, even if it wasn't used so extensively in recent years.
Also, if you really do like it, I don't really suggest the pronunciation like "awful" besides that it has nothing to do with an auction really.
Re: Auffles on 09/06/2016 02:34 PM CDT
Re: Auffles on 09/06/2016 05:36 PM CDT
Re: Auffles on 09/06/2016 05:50 PM CDT
>> What ever we end up calling it, these raffles are NOT a replacement raffle system. These are a bit cumbersome. It's just a specialty raffle system we'll use from time to time.
How about calling them Spraffles (Specialty Raffles)?
-- Robert
A powerful whirlpool is suddenly overtaken by a windy vortex!
How about calling them Spraffles (Specialty Raffles)?
-- Robert
A powerful whirlpool is suddenly overtaken by a windy vortex!
Re: Auffles on 09/06/2016 05:53 PM CDT
Whenever I read The Name of the Wind I become a real stickler for names.
https://gswiki.play.net/Raffle page updated
Re: Auffles on 09/06/2016 06:03 PM CDT
So you just completed deleted the page I made, removed my links and made the authoritarian decision that "Flexible Raffles" was a proper name for these? Wow.
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Re: Auffles on 09/06/2016 06:05 PM CDT
Re: Auffles on 09/06/2016 06:06 PM CDT
Well as long as the 5 people that think they own the wiki agreed I guess the rest of us can go screw heh?
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Re: Auffles on 09/06/2016 06:09 PM CDT
Re: Auffles on 09/06/2016 06:10 PM CDT
Re: Auffles on 09/06/2016 06:11 PM CDT
It's halfway between Auctions and Raffles in terms of "fairness." The person with the most money won't always win like an auction but they're able to buy a better chance to win. That's the implication. No one is saying it's an auction format but that it splits the difference between an auction which benefits those willing to pay the most and a raffle that it totally random. I changed it to Multi-Ticket Raffle as a compromise but if "Raffle 2.0" is an acceptable alternative stop removing "Auffle" as an alternative.
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Re: Auffles on 09/06/2016 06:12 PM CDT
Flexible raffle doesn't convey any real meaning.
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Re: Auffles on 09/06/2016 06:16 PM CDT
The term 'auffle' doesn't convey the concept of a raffle at all for me personally.
Raffle 2.0 at least I think it's a raffle up front but then I also think it's a replacement system for Raffle 1.0.
I'm lukewarm on Flexible Raffle but at least I know what it is (it's a raffle) and it sounds like it is some variation on the raffles I am familiar with.
The only 2 silvers I plan on contributing to this discussion.
-- Robert
A powerful whirlpool is suddenly overtaken by a windy vortex!
Raffle 2.0 at least I think it's a raffle up front but then I also think it's a replacement system for Raffle 1.0.
I'm lukewarm on Flexible Raffle but at least I know what it is (it's a raffle) and it sounds like it is some variation on the raffles I am familiar with.
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Re: Auffles on 09/06/2016 06:18 PM CDT
Like I said Flexible raffle doesn't convey anything to me. I tried changing it to Multi-Ticket Raffle but the wiki queen doesn't like it. I'm open to suggestions that don't include "Go to hell, we own the wiki and you're in the way."
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Re: Auffles on 09/06/2016 06:22 PM CDT
Re: Auffles on 09/06/2016 06:24 PM CDT
Re: Auffles on 09/06/2016 06:29 PM CDT
Hey guys I'm going to start a post in the Wiki topic to discuss this. I don't want to clog up the Good folder with this. I just posted here to give Wyrom props for the awesome new system.
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Re: Auffles on 09/06/2016 06:30 PM CDT
Re: Auffles on 09/06/2016 06:48 PM CDT
Kithus |
Well as long as the 5 people that think they own the wiki agreed I guess the rest of us can go screw heh? |
My first response was to make a Discussion page there, pointing out several reasons the page made no sense.
But otherwise, yes your understanding of democracy seems reasonable accurate.
Re: Auffles on 09/06/2016 07:02 PM CDT
Can't see the discussion page when V deletes the entire topic.
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Re: Auffles on 09/06/2016 07:49 PM CDT
My advise is, don't both updating the wiki. It is far more trouble than its worth.
To be fair though that name was Auffle.
http://i.imgur.com/lsWPzG9.gif
To be fair though that name was Auffle.
http://i.imgur.com/lsWPzG9.gif
Re: Auffles on 09/06/2016 10:31 PM CDT
I started with the name multi-ticket raffles, but it doesn't give any weight to the other differences in the system (log in, draw time, currencies). I personally think these differences are at least as important as being able to buy multiple tickets. I'd rather have Wyrom name his system and be done with it. Specialty Raffle works for me.
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