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"How's that thrown review coming?" he asked to the yawning abyss which long ago ripped his soul out through his eyes and used it to beat his dreams of non-borked thrown mechanics into a bloody pile of tears and shattered expectations.
<<<"How's that thrown review coming?" he asked to the yawning abyss which long ago ripped his soul out through his eyes and used it to beat his dreams of non-borked thrown mechanics into a bloody pile of tears and shattered expectations.>>>
Well at least it hasn't troubled you much.
~ Heathyr
Well at least it hasn't troubled you much.
~ Heathyr
>Maybe we should just turn this into a forum game, start taking bets on how long it will take to get a response to this issue? We'll have to have one of those gambling peoples make up some rules though, anything beyond playing poker is out of my depth.- LEDBETTERM
How about a drinking game for people who don't drink? Every time a GM posts something about thrown weapons, take a shot!
/duck
Dave, Brandain's Bard
How about a drinking game for people who don't drink? Every time a GM posts something about thrown weapons, take a shot!
/duck
Dave, Brandain's Bard
>Hey Finros, go fix thrown.
I appreciate the vote of confidence, but thrown combat isn't really an area that I'm personally interested in right now. There are a number of other projects which are of equal or higher priority, and time is always an issue.
It is probably safe to consider the thrown review on hiatus for now, unfortunately.
I appreciate the vote of confidence, but thrown combat isn't really an area that I'm personally interested in right now. There are a number of other projects which are of equal or higher priority, and time is always an issue.
It is probably safe to consider the thrown review on hiatus for now, unfortunately.
Well darn Finros, I think the work you did on the UAC system gave us the most fun combat style in the game ... I'd love to see what you would have done with thrown!
p.s. Can you give monks the thrown hat decapitating weapon as seen in such kung fu documentaries as "Master of the Flying Guillotine" and "Iron Monkey 2"? :)
Just to be clear, my calling on Finros was in good fun. To imply he in any way was or should be responsible for the thrown review is flat out wrong. If anything, you should be appreciative of the response you got. It is a very, very rare thing for GS to get a straight answer, whether its the one you wanted or not.
!>tell child to be quiet
The child cries, "I don't wanna!"
!>tell child to be quiet
The child cries, "I don't wanna!"
We should be appreciative of being told that it's not happening YET AGAIN? Appreciative that we even got a response? Interesting standards of customer service you have there.
I'd be appreciative of not having silence for ten months - and who knows how much longer if there hadn't been some activity in this folder. I'd be appreciative of being kept up to date on the status of projects. I'd be really appreciative of it actually being done.
I'd be appreciative of not having silence for ten months - and who knows how much longer if there hadn't been some activity in this folder. I'd be appreciative of being kept up to date on the status of projects. I'd be really appreciative of it actually being done.
>"YOU. SHALL. NOT. PASS!" - what thrown says to any GM that attempts to cross the bridge from idea to release
It isn't quite that bad. But combat system redesign and re-implementation is tricky, and it is easy to get overwhelmed by the details.
>p.s. Can you give monks the thrown hat decapitating weapon as seen in such kung fu documentaries as "Master of the Flying Guillotine" and "Iron Monkey 2"? :)
I do have to admit that I'm a fan of exotic headgear -- and Oddjob's bowler hat is something I've thought about. Such an item isn't outside the realm of possibility.
>And yet not surprising in the slightest, nor is the staff attitude displayed by Finros to just give up on it happening.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but you've called me out personally about a project that I had nothing to do with, merely because I stated that it is on pause. Is it really a surprise that most staff members aren't exactly eager to chime in on such subjects, when the result is to be personally criticized?
As always, I remain willing to give input wherever specifically asked, but I wouldn't be able to honestly advise another staff member that it is rewarding to do so, if one were to ask my opinion on the matter.
It isn't quite that bad. But combat system redesign and re-implementation is tricky, and it is easy to get overwhelmed by the details.
>p.s. Can you give monks the thrown hat decapitating weapon as seen in such kung fu documentaries as "Master of the Flying Guillotine" and "Iron Monkey 2"? :)
I do have to admit that I'm a fan of exotic headgear -- and Oddjob's bowler hat is something I've thought about. Such an item isn't outside the realm of possibility.
>And yet not surprising in the slightest, nor is the staff attitude displayed by Finros to just give up on it happening.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but you've called me out personally about a project that I had nothing to do with, merely because I stated that it is on pause. Is it really a surprise that most staff members aren't exactly eager to chime in on such subjects, when the result is to be personally criticized?
As always, I remain willing to give input wherever specifically asked, but I wouldn't be able to honestly advise another staff member that it is rewarding to do so, if one were to ask my opinion on the matter.
>>I remain willing to give input wherever specifically asked, but I wouldn't be able to honestly advise another staff member that it is rewarding to do so
Finros
That is where the disconnect lies, for me. I believe that updating players on game development should be part of the job - not something that is able to be done or not depending on the mood of the staff member. Does the fact that players do not even expect responses from staff any more honestly not strike you as indicative of a failure in staff communication?
I'd still like to know if all grimswarm runestaves are generated with some innate magical quality that keeps them from being destroyed with 1002 but there has been no response to that either.
Finros
That is where the disconnect lies, for me. I believe that updating players on game development should be part of the job - not something that is able to be done or not depending on the mood of the staff member. Does the fact that players do not even expect responses from staff any more honestly not strike you as indicative of a failure in staff communication?
I'd still like to know if all grimswarm runestaves are generated with some innate magical quality that keeps them from being destroyed with 1002 but there has been no response to that either.
<<<I believe that updating players on game development should be part of the job>>>
It's a little unfair, I think, to expect Finros--or any other GM--to provide an "update" on the development of parts of the game they have absolutely nothing to do with. When they chime in, it's welcome and appreciated, but they're certainly under no obligation to do so. Especially when the message is, essentially, "Nothing to report." ;)
~ Heathyr and friends
It's a little unfair, I think, to expect Finros--or any other GM--to provide an "update" on the development of parts of the game they have absolutely nothing to do with. When they chime in, it's welcome and appreciated, but they're certainly under no obligation to do so. Especially when the message is, essentially, "Nothing to report." ;)
~ Heathyr and friends
>>It's a little unfair, I think, to expect Finros--or any other GM--to provide an "update" on the development of parts of the game they have absolutely nothing to do with.
Of course. Frankly, I don't know where you came up with the idea that I would expect that. The GMs who are working on development should provide updates on the parts of the game they are working on.
Also, the message here was not "nothing to report" - it was that development on the thrown review had stopped again and nobody bothered to mention it. That is certainly worth reporting but was not.
Of course. Frankly, I don't know where you came up with the idea that I would expect that. The GMs who are working on development should provide updates on the parts of the game they are working on.
Also, the message here was not "nothing to report" - it was that development on the thrown review had stopped again and nobody bothered to mention it. That is certainly worth reporting but was not.
Called you out? No, I merely stated that the attitude displayed by staff is that thrown is not important. Even when we had a GM claim to be nearly finished with the review at one point. Somehow despite it being nearly finished, we're now back to square one and it's back to the drawing board when and if a new GM takes an interest?
When a GM works on thrown review and leaves staff, all progress is gone with that GM and the thrown review languishes. For years. It's a pretty poorly designed system that progress isn't saved and able to be continued and finished at some point by someone else on staff.
I'm sorry you feel that I was being critical of you or somehow calling you out. I was merely expressing frustration that after months of asking for an update, the first answer we get is 'not happening'.
-Richard/Fjalar.
When a GM works on thrown review and leaves staff, all progress is gone with that GM and the thrown review languishes. For years. It's a pretty poorly designed system that progress isn't saved and able to be continued and finished at some point by someone else on staff.
I'm sorry you feel that I was being critical of you or somehow calling you out. I was merely expressing frustration that after months of asking for an update, the first answer we get is 'not happening'.
-Richard/Fjalar.
