"The first thing that strikes you about the strongbox is the weight, which is about 84 pounds."

Holy crap! Alright, this is why people don't bother to pick up boxes, because of encumbrance...

(Although if that was a reasonably close facsimile of the representation of the silver [or magical suits of armor, or whatever] inside, then I'd be a lot happier about it.)

(For the record, NO, there was not nearly 13000 silver inside.)

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Already broke one lockpick this week on this area's boxes, so I go to Larton.

You gather the remaining 2981 coins from inside your steel strongbox.
In the steel strongbox you see some wolifrew lichen.

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And just to make sure...

As you sing, you feel a faint resonating vibration from the wolifrew lichen in your hand, and you learn something about it...
This is a small item, under a pound.

The first thing that strikes you about the strongbox is the weight, which is about 7 pounds.

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So, after I take the just-over-eighteen-and-a-half-pounds [18.6] of silver coins out of the base-weight-seven-pounds [7] strongbox that had a less-than-one-pound [call it 1] == less-than-twenty-seven [<27] pounds of ACTUAL WEIGHT...

...I'm left being puzzled where the other SIXTY FRICKING POUNDS came from in what the system is telling us.

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So, yeah.

GMs? What's up with boxes, and weight, and encumbrance, and all that?

Loresinging doesn't provide an accurate weigh on locked boxes. I'd argue this is a BUG.

Full-box Song: The first thing that strikes you about the strongbox is the weight, which is about 82 pounds.

Full-box Weigh: You carefully examine the wooden strongbox and determine that the weight is about 24 pounds.

Actual content: You gather the remaining 2935 coins from inside your wooden strongbox.

Empty-box Song: The first thing that strikes you about the strongbox is the weight, which is about 6 pounds.

Empty-box Weigh: You carefully examine the wooden strongbox and determine that the weight is about 6 pounds.

>Already broke one lockpick this week on this area's boxes, so I go to Larton.

>"The first thing that strikes you about the strongbox is the weight, which is about 84 pounds."

I never bother with that verse, I jump straight to the one that tells me whether I would break a pick. ;)

I have about 6 mules on the other account stacked up with boxes that I didn't feel like bringing the Thief in for--which is good, because, you know: they break picks--so I can develop a sample set this evening when I get home.

I'll bet it's the silvers that give loresongs trouble, rather then that the boxes are locked. It would be interesting to see if getting a rogue to relock a box after the silvers were removed (or getting a sorcerer to phase the silvers out) yielded the same results or if those pouches folk can put silvers into have the same problem...

Starchitin

A severed gnomish hand crawls in on its fingertips and makes a rude gesture before quickly decaying and rotting into dust. A gust of wind quickly scatters the dust.

Robert, tell me where you're hunting so I can ransack the place? :D

	Gross	Weight	How					Tare	Weight
container	loresong	verb	Opened	lock	trap	silvers	other	loresong	verb
weathered fel box	37	13	picked			1152	green garnet, petal-cut sapphire tiara	7	6
scratched fel box	76	22	picked		Vial	2674	silver lockpick	7	6
engraved mithril trunk	36	19	picked			940	golden wand		13

I had a difficult time getting weights with my level six bard - those loresinging changes are strikingly apparent at lower levels. I must take it for granted as Naamit!

No 't' in 'caring'. Derp.

Those look like typical Landing boxes. The ones in other towns have much better stuff in them.

Starchitin

A severed gnomish hand crawls in on its fingertips and makes a rude gesture before quickly decaying and rotting into dust. A gust of wind quickly scatters the dust.

Takes a stout box to hold that many silvers. . . a really stout box.

Doug