<<930 - Made to work more so based on your Elemental Mana Control instead of level (good move here)

Based on BOTH elmental mana control and wizard spell ranks. I have this gut feeling that wizard spell ranks plays a heavier role, too.


-Adam

The name for 903 used to be just "Blur", then 911 was "Mass Blur".

>401/406/414/419 | no longer provide TD bonus to spirit based spells - unless they never did....I don't recall

They used to provide TD defense, before the major upgrade to them.

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>907/908 | ability to do splash damage - con = MOC required to gain good use

Actually, as Xatier had explained it a while ago, MOC does not really help here. What helps more is the proper training in respective lores, such as fire for 908, and I believe water for 907. MOC only helps the lower-end number, but does nothing to help the higher-end number. Lores will increase the probability of higher number of targets hit regardless of your MOC training.

Zizzle

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The Elementalist

<lore + MOC discussion... again> -- Zizzle & Reallia

I have got to post this crap on Krakiipedia, because re-writing it is getting tiresome. :)

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Zizzle, you are correct: Lore increases your potential hits so the "payoff" in more hits is greater there.

However, if that first die-roll is a 1, ain't no amount of training in nothing going to have any effect at all: a sucky roll is a sucky roll. Period.

(It's just that, without Lore, your odds of a 1 are one-in-eight [base range is eight], whereas with Lore your odds of a 1 can be one-in-twenty-seven [normal training limits in Lore can add up to +19 targets]; ranks of Lore means that--generally speaking--you are going to see an actual "1" a lot less frequently.)

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Reallia, you are correct: there are two rolls.

Once that first die-roll tells you how many you might hit, the second die-roll tells you how many of them you actually do. It is this roll to which MOC adds.

If you have a ton of Lore, you can get two rolls: 27, and 1.
Actual number of splashed critters? 1

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This is why I usually recommend a fairly modest investment in both skills, to maximize damage.
- I think it's something like fifteen (15) ranks of Lore for +5 targets to the splash (possible range is 1-13, compared to the base of 1-8).
- If you have only five (5) ranks of MOC, then you can get that second swing with a melee weapon; ten (10) ranks of MOC offsets one entire opponent for FvF [Force vs. Force] comparisons of being outnumbered.

More than 150% the number of possible targets for 15 ranks of Lore? Sure, sign me up.

I get safer, and more dangerous splashes? Sure, sign me up.

>919 Duration changed to flat 60sec a cast - non-stackable - self cast only???

Can be cast on others. Not a bad change at all in my book. Spelling myself up got tons easier and it really has not effect as I don't "Need" the spell anymore.

Heh; I was just going off the list that SomebodyOrOther posted; I had totally forgotten about them being in different lists. (That always kind of puzzled me...)

Then again, the original list didn't mention that Guard III and Mass Guard used to be different spells, either; the Open Essence list [Minor Elemental] could therefor provide a total of 5+10+25+25+<level> == 65+level defense, if you knew up through Guard True (the 30th level spell/Elemental Barrier).