Baiting again on 07/01/2007 07:29 PM CDT
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I admit, I have very little skill, around 33 in mech lore... But, if it is so danged hard to bait my hook with the free bait, why doesn't my mech lore gain skill? It takes me up to 25 attempts to bait my hook and mech never goes above learning. It if is so difficult to do, why shouldn't I be learning something from it? I get mind locked when I catch a couple of fish (the easy part!) and only get learning from baiting my hook which is frustratingly difficult.

Either make baiting easier to accomplish, or make it so that mech lore is trained from it since it is so unbelieveably hard to do.
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Re: Baiting again on 07/01/2007 10:22 PM CDT
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You do learn--just not on failures.

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Re: Baiting again on 07/02/2007 10:02 AM CDT
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The difficulty in baiting is rather nonsensical to me. I'm in the 70s in mech lore and still have problems. I bet it goes through the 100s like that.

Buy artifical lores and you won't have a problem. (Flies or fake worms) They don't squiggle and I imagine they even have those little eye-hooks for EZ-baiting. :)


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Re: Baiting again on 07/02/2007 10:55 AM CDT
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I'm pretty sure that your ability to bait a hook with live bait is based on animal lore. I gain no mech at all from using live minnows and live fish but I do learn more animal lore than when I catch fish with fake bait.

Going from around 80 animal lore to over 100 animal lore I've noticed a big difference in my ability to get live bait on the hook; I seem to never fail anymore.
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Re: Baiting again on 07/02/2007 11:31 AM CDT
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I've tested it with 2 characters. My character with 22 in mech lore can get mech lore up to concentrating but my character with 33 in mech lore (who obviously has more successes than the one with 22) only gets to learning. Animal lore is locked, which means I've obviously been successful baiting my hook enough times to catch enough fish to lock animal lore (I admit animal lore is a lower skill for me) but my point is, that for my character with 33 in mech, if she can't bait the hook but for 1 out of 20-25 tries (with the occassional lucky early bait) then why doesn't she get beyond learning when she is successful?

It just seems to me that baiting a hook should be tweaked because it should be easier than that, but if it won't be made easier, tweak the exp to be gained from it.
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Re: Baiting again on 07/02/2007 07:44 PM CDT
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>I'm pretty sure that your ability to bait a hook with live bait is based on animal lore. I gain no mech at all from using live minnows and live fish but I do learn more animal lore than when I catch fish with fake bait.

>Going from around 80 animal lore to over 100 animal lore I've noticed a big difference in my ability to get live bait on the hook; I seem to never fail anymore.

From when I started fishing with 0 animal lore, I've never failed to bait with live bait. I can't say animal lore won't help you with baiting, but I can tell you it's definitely not the only/main skill being contested, as I've always done it fail-free with mech alone.

But yes, the contest is really lame, because you're practically locked out of fishing until you get XX in mech. And the kicker is, it never even taught mech.

Dragoonseal
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