Meggansera, how many ranks of PP to see in the pulsating ranks, most of the time? Some days you still see what kind of mana? How many ranks of PP do you still need to get "good" mana to work with? What do other guilds think is "good mana"?

Do they go into a room and say ... quickly pulsating, this is going to be the room where I work my magical skills today?


Stolas

There is knowledge hidden in the shadows

Armifer, just for clarification, when you say that PP needs adjusting ... do you mean it is working as intented and it is fine? Or do you mean that it is broken and needs fixing? I dont want to take anything out of context and just trying to understand your intentions.


Stolas

There is knowledge hidden in the shadows

>> The only thing I want to eventually change is how you learn the skill. Staring at livestock all day should not be your best source of experience.

So the Great NPC Nerf that GM Talian mentioned awhile back is still in the cards? Well, at least we'll have better ways of learning it after that.

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Kystrk quietly says, "I'm going to burn this place down"
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Kystrk takes a sip of his water.

Except I've heard vastly different times for all of those things and from my experience at least those aren't accurate.

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Khaman says to Mandorsgar, "It would be like finding out that stars are simply great gasfires, symbolic of nothing."

>>the timers change from rank to rank (possibly even from %) and are not a reliable way to train your PP. i guess you could use ballpark times and be ok, but the timer thing was just a bad idea.<<

So, dig out a favor orb, take 10 minutes, and check them out at your current levels of Power Perception. I'd be interrested to see how they change.

>>You don't see why we would consider it a little unreasonable to expect moon mages to do this every time they rank PP?<<

I think he was trying to say he doesn't believe them. :)

I personally don't know of any timers that change with more ranks. Who knows, I'd be interested to see if they do as well.

-Wighten

>>You don't see why we would consider it a little unreasonable to expect moon mages to do this every time they rank PP?<<

No, but finding the timers doesn't mean that you need to alter them every single time you rank the skill. Timers get faster - so, in essence, once you find a rotation that works, it will still continue to train. Alter every 20, 30 or hell, even 50 ranks. I'm not saying it's a stellar (ha, get it?) system, but finding a regimine that works now seems much fruitful than just complaining about it, wouldn't you agree?

In addendum, I'm working out a new set of timers for 200 PP. The old list I posted I worked out at, I think, 150 ranks, maybe lower.

I'm still nailing down numbers.

Planets, for me, at least, went from 30 seconds to 20
The books went down a few seconds
and I haven't finished getting the rest nailed out.

Again, if anyone else can post numbers, it'd be stellar. I'll get the rest of mine up hopefully tonight

<<Timers get faster>>

Timers get longer with more skill. For instance you said your power planets timer was 30 seconds. My timer on perceiving planets is 101 seconds with 516 66.34% PP.

<<No, but finding the timers doesn't mean that you need to alter them every single time you rank the skill.>>

My timer on perceiving an NPC (includes shadowlings, servants, and zoo animals) at
516 66.33% was 184 seconds, the result of two trials.

At 516 66.34% my timer on NPCs increased to 186 seconds, the result of two trials.

The spellbooks for some reason are wonky. I got 163 seconds on moonlight, 130 on transduction, 80 on psychic, and 140 on perception. I dunno why they are inconsistent like that. I didn't have the patience to do multiple trials.

I timed two moons and both times got 59 seconds.

<<Where in the wall cycle are/were you for your initial testing and for this testing?>>

wall cycle doesn't matter when you are finding your timers, since you should be clearing your PP pool, then perceiving one object, clearing the pool with a favor orb, and then perceiving the same object timing from when you first perceived to when you can move PP from clear to learning again.

>Timers get longer with more skill.

Well, color me incorrect.

My original #'s must have been off then. I get ~20-25 seconds right now with 200, and had longer timers when I first tested.