Isn't this a bit high?

>You have learned Glythtide's Gift [gg] from a scroll and must maintain at least a rather low attunement to keep it.

>mana
>Attunement: [0%>>>>>>S>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>50%>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>100%]

I find that to be approximately 15% of my harness..

Before, I was required to keep 0 harness to retain GG... I find little point in such a spell needing that much attunement.. GG was GREAT back when I could use it without worrying about losing it...
now it's..eh..I'd rather learn PFE or something useful for 15-20% of my attunement being reserved.

Or does the attunement needed have something to do with my skills?

That's exactly my point. I"ve always thought of it as a cantrip, learnable by anyone. I'm a dwarf. and a paladin. I need me drink!

Go griddy!

-Statis

I believe it used to be a requirement of 1. But considering it's a scroll only spell designed for the Cleric guild, I think we can have a claim to it.

Frankly, I could care less. It's a fluff spell that I've never even cast once. However, to say that Clerics have no claim to the spell is saying Moon Mages had no claim to Heavy moonblade when it was scroll only - and that's just silly.

-Statis

The Harness req for GG changed because I modified how the req was calc'ed on a code level. I'm looking for ways to address it.



Valdrik

When did I say 'Take it away'? and when did I also say 'Clerics have no claim to it'?

I can't, for the life of me, identify where I was trying to say that in my initial post...

Ok, let me try to restate my original post: I was trying to say that I think the req is a tad high, seeing as how it used to be 1... THATS ALL.

I responded to, what seemed to be to me, a taunt, in my second post.

Oh, that I can understand, I'm just curious as to why the harness req for GG was changed from 1 to ..(something more than one).

I'm a dwarf, I like me drink.

--Mozu

Umm totally different point but I see what yer getting at, GG, OM, Hulp, Halo etc don't infringe on ANY other guild, so I'd move on from that point before I start busting out on my "Clerics SHOULD be invincible since we are the chosen of the gods" and the " I think the gods would have the power to take everything away from all those heathens" trips.
-Grid

>>Ohh.. and just remember, any changes to your spells won't be because of any "complaints" by others.. but rather, because the GMs looked at them and found problems with the spell.. all on their own, unswayed by cries of "foul".... or so we were told about Smite Horde.. many times.

obviously the GM's were completly swayed by the complaining, it had nothing to do with a problem that was in the coding...nope, obviously GM's care more about what other guilds think about them than their own guild.

Dark Angel Crusinix

>>Seriously, though, as far as I could tell from my experiments, there was never anything wrong with SHo that wasn't wrong with SF.

What I had ment was I'm more inclined that people will believe a gm changed something not because there was a bug in it, than because people complain about it.

It's really a no win argument, since they told us "why" they changed it...that pretty much the end of the discussion except for those that "believe" it another way.

I changed it because I found a bug.

NO YOU DIDN'T, YOU CHANGED IT BECAUSE PEOPLE COMPLAINED.

Um...no, there was a bug in it.

SO YOU GOING TO LET OTHER GUILDS TELL US WHAT TO DO?

I'm talking to a wall here arn't I?

YOU ARE ANTI-PALIE!

I ate oat meal for breakfast

SEE, YOU ADMIT TO BEING A SELL OUT. IF YOU ATE WHEATIES, YOU'D WOULDN'T HAVE CHANGED THAT!

Um...there WAS a bug

LIER! FIEND! HEATHEN!

I'm gonna go now.

AH, SCARED ARE YOU, RUNNING AWAY, COME BACK HERE, I'LL BITE YOUR ANKLES OFF.

Dark Angel Crusinix

>>No one ever ASKS that their guild get raise, just that we get it, so they can be raised again.) :-)

Nuh uh! There have been at least half a dozen posts by one guild or another saying to give raise to THEM because they'd use it without complaining about it ::grins::

<<Please, my man. You're talking to the guy who used to watch his best friend, Clynlyn, kill DS with a 8-12 prep of SF. Clyn not only needed less mana, but also had no need to target them at all. THAT was unfair.

13-16 was the real mana. Then they did the super crazy ultra hahaha paladins you aint gonna have it so easy tweak.

prep 13 harn 3 3xs and cast.

which was still pretty decent just not as great as it was.

now SF just totally isnt usuable at my actual hunting area. But i guess thats the point of paladin magic. It supplements our combat, it doesnt take it over.

Clyn

<<I find it funny that nobody ever commented on high-circle Cleric magic. I was able to kill DS with 5 mana, and Adan'f with 6 every single cast (before magic 2.1). We were broken, vs undead.

Prolly cause nobody else could compare. This does make memories of TGS when a DS invasion occured less awing. Two clerics slaughtering DS spawns of 10 at a time in a matter of seconds. ::grunts::

Majebrad

>Mainly because even if you raise a small question, you have frothing clerics try to tear your eyes out

What do you expect? When you've got awesome spells like KW and PS you've got to be protective!!

<<Mainly because even if you raise a small question, you have frothing clerics try to tear your eyes out (statis). >>

Pure buddy, in much the same way I'm sure you enjoy sending me into a rage, I enjoy when you call me frothing. :) Totally what I'm shooting for.

-Statis

>>and Clerics shoot at people just for lingering too long in there hunting room...<<

Wait, you don't do this already? Am I the only one? No wonder I don't have any friends....::weepy weepy::

~I.B.

And yes, lower the harness requirement, make the spell a cleric-only cantrip, and give it variations based on race. I don't want bloodgrog, I don't want windhaze, I don't want taffleberry rum punch, and I still have yet to get anything Mur-ish. For shame.