Smoking on 07/05/2002 11:19 AM CDT
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Does a non halflin get past adequate with smoke shapes?
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Re: Smoking on 07/06/2002 02:38 AM CDT
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Another question, if I know a few images on the basic level, how do I increase thier levels? Do I have to listen to the class again?

-Teeklin Tessenoak, Proud Ranger of Elanthia
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Re: Smoking on 07/06/2002 06:43 AM CDT
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no, you don't listen to class again.

You smoke. that improves how well you perform the image.

however, there is a ceiling to how well non-olvi can perform each image.
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Re: Smoking on 07/06/2002 04:50 PM CDT
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I'm somewhat confused on what level of smoke images is attainable by races. And is beginner first level, or is amateur?

Shadow Priest Eyrc Dae'nae
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Re: Smoking on 07/06/2002 05:01 PM CDT
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beginner is lower than amateur.

beginner is what you get after you first learn image from an olvi.

And I believe s'kra and prydaen can only learn it to amateur. At least I haven't been able to smoke myself beyond that.


Schvartz
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Re: Smoking on 07/08/2002 05:09 PM CDT
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<<Does a non halflin get past adequate with smoke shapes? >>

Maybe this snippet of the original post will help answer <g>

Fial: "There is a skill involved with images with five levels of images and six levels of skill. The sixth level allows for the teaching of the skill. The best a non- Olvi can hope to obtain is 3rd level, 2nd level for Skra and Prydaen, 1st level for Rakash in moonskin. "
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Re: Smoking on 07/10/2002 09:54 PM CDT
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Does anyone else find it ironic that there's so many things that we can't do in the realms "because it's a family environment", and yet, here they are, encouraging players of which at least half are probably children to smoke? And to smoke a lot at that.

And please flamers, do not jump on me yelling it's just a game. Because it's just a game when I accidently forget and say a four letter word too. And when people do things that are better left in private, etc etc. It's just a game then too.

Anyways, just wondering why we were encouraging lung cancer, empysema, and under-age smoking. :-)

Cetacea's player
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Re: Smoking on 07/10/2002 10:52 PM CDT
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because just because an imaginary character of an imaginary race smokes does not mean you will smoke in RL.

In DR my characters range in age from 17 to 71, and range from elves to s'kra mur to gor-togs. Some of them smoke, some of them don't. Some are male, some are female.And my highest character is a Thief thru and through.

In RL I'm 45, Female, and definately a human being. And I don't smoke. Never have, never will, and have never stolen anything in my life. :-).

It's all about role-playing a character Different than yourself.
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Re: Smoking on 07/11/2002 04:02 AM CDT
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>>because just because an imaginary character of an imaginary race >>smokes does not mean you will smoke in RL.
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>>It's all about role-playing a character Different than yourself.


Of course I realize that. As an adult, I also realize that the choices I make here in a game have no effect whatsoever on my real life.

However, what I was pointing out...is that SIMU (the generic) must believe things here influence at least the youth portion of our players lives. Otherwise, there wouldn't be the restrictions on other things that there are. So, I found it ironic that it wouldn't be okay to expose said youth to sex, drugs and rock n roll, but it would be okay to say hey, go light up, it's nifty.

I dunno...maybe my point isn't coming across very well. It's the middle of the night and I'm completely bombed on cold medicine. lol
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Re: Smoking on 07/11/2002 09:18 AM CDT
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>>So, I found it ironic that it wouldn't be okay to expose said youth to sex, drugs and rock n roll, but it would be okay to say hey, go light up, it's nifty.<<

don't forget drinking. chuckle

I'm not saying I disagree with the decision to have them in game, but I find it amusing to see where the lines are drawn as well.

-Fyriestorme
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Re: Smoking on 07/11/2002 03:01 PM CDT
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I am surprised you don't go after the most obvious connection ...

Dismember your target in the most bloody, violent ways imaginable ... but don't you DARE get intimate with them, or tell them off with a "bad" word.

Go figure. I can't yell at them using the words I am actually thinking (but not typing, for fear of a warning), but I can turn their head into a "scarlet mist (Mom would not be pleased!)".

~~~Krin
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Re: Smoking on 07/11/2002 03:03 PM CDT
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horrific deplorable violence is okay as long as there's no naughty language. Straight from the horses mouth Sheila Broflosky
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Re: Smoking on 07/11/2002 03:35 PM CDT
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>>Krin>>Dismember your target in the most bloody, violent ways imaginable ... but don't you DARE get intimate with them, or tell them off with a "bad" word.

Don't you know that that is why X-rated always means sex, not violence?

One nude scene in a movie drives it up the rating system faster than 2 hours of non-stop violence does.

Don't some movies specifically add a nude scene to get that R rating, since that sells more tickets, even if it keeps the youngsters out?

Kyn, the depraved
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Re: Smoking on 07/11/2002 08:37 PM CDT
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yea, on the scale of 'bad things DR promotes', going to have to say smoking, although making the list, is pretty far down.

I actually have to squelch some of the death crits...like that horrible leucro one calling for it's mother...because since my imagination is filling in all the blanks to the text I am reading, everytime I go hunting in there, it's like imagining a room full of puppies being put down. And that kills an adrenaline rush, let me tell you!

In all honesty, I would never, EVER let a child play this game. It's supposed to be 'family oriented', and that's fine. I am glad we aren't bubbling over with foul language and sexual inuendos left and right. But, since way over half of all the systems in the game are designed around how to kill things better, safer and faster...well...I would only allow children to play whom I am sure have already established a firm grip on what is real and what is not. To me, starting in your late teens to play is probally just fine, and I know there are quite a few players who have started young and are just fine mentally (or as fine as we all can be with our DR-monkeys chittering on our shoulders), but thinking that in any way this is a game for children too...well...(shrug)

Kythryn, glad there are no wee-Kythryn's running around that she has to worry about these things for
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Re: Smoking on 07/11/2002 09:33 PM CDT
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As a parent that DID let their kids play DR, I'd much rather mine did play DR as a 10 year old than quake or some of the other 1st person shooters, where ALL you do is shoot things with a "gun" type mouse. Even tho they prefered those types of games, I think by steering them into DR instead, it helped them

a. extend their vocabulary
b. focus more on the importance of spelling things and reading text better <i.e. DR doesn't respond when you can't spell Abdomen correctly to tend it>
c. improve their typing skills.

-me-
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Re: Smoking on 07/11/2002 09:38 PM CDT
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And gads does it ever improve one's typing skills. When I started playing I was typing at around 40 words a minute, not to mention I was a "hunt and peck" typist. I'm now at 126 wpm and (needless to say) I'm no longer the "hunt and peck" typist I once was. You also definately learn more vocabulary, and you learn to read a lot faster as well. DR has been one of the best things that's ever happened to my school work, that's for sure. People come up to me all the time and ask me to type things for them and I make some pretty nice change when finals come up and all the end of the year papers are starting to catch up with people.

-Teeklin Tessenoak, Proud Ranger of Elanthia

P.S. Smoking in DR is good. Smoking in RL is bad. If you can't make that distinction then you aren't old enough to play yet.
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Re: Smoking on 07/11/2002 09:43 PM CDT
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> I'm now at 126 wpm and (needless to say) I'm no longer the "hunt and peck" typist I once was.

Careful.. I used to be at 128 thanks to online gaming, and now I hit 60 on a good day... both my wrists are shot and the joints in my fingers are no better.

Typing, like smoking, can be hazzardous to your health.

If I had kids, I'd be gaming with them, but it would be tabletop D&D, old school.. not this place.

Serrin
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Smoking on 01/03/2003 04:45 AM CST
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>Fial: "There is a skill involved with images with five levels of images and six levels of skill. The sixth level allows for the teaching of the skill. The best a non- Olvi can hope to obtain is 3rd level, 2nd level for Skra and Prydaen, 1st level for Rakash in moonskin. "

My character being a human, according to this I can reach 3rd level. I'm assuming first level is beginner, second is amatuer, and I don't know what third is (haven't gotten there yet).

But what are the "five levels of images" and what level can a human reach? Does this mean at each skill level there are multiple images you can create from one smoke category?
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Re: Smoking on 01/03/2003 08:53 AM CST
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i'm not at all sure what the 3rd level is called, but having different images means that for Each image, there are different Levels of proficiency , i.e. as an example:


level 1 a misshapen cloud
level 2 a cloud with legs and bumps on top
level 3 a deformed rabbit
level 4 a rabbit with long ears
level 5 a rabbit that chews on a carrot and says, " What's up doc?"
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Re: Smoking on 01/03/2003 12:20 PM CST
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>>But what are the "five levels of images" and what level can a human reach? Does this mean at each skill level there are multiple images you can create from one smoke category?

"Five levels of images" refers to the difficulty of learning/practicing the image. A deer is easier than a dragon, for instance.

- Shavay Silvamon, Heritage Monographs (freelance)
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Re: Smoking on 01/04/2003 11:02 AM CST
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>"Five levels of images" refers to the difficulty of learning/practicing the image. A deer is easier than a dragon, for instance.

Completely wrong. All smoke images take the same amount of practice to master. It's like Schvartz said, different levels will create different degrees of completion for an image.
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Re: Smoking on 01/20/2003 10:27 AM CST
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well that bites being a prydaen only allows me to attain amateur? mutters
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Re: Smoking on 01/30/2003 11:24 AM CST
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how do you go about learning the smoking skill, i see under smoking options shapes learned, but i don't understand how you learn new images? if someone could give me a quick overview that would be great!
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Re: Smoking on 01/30/2003 01:51 PM CST
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>>how do you go about learning the smoking skill, i see under smoking options shapes learned, but i don't understand how you learn new images? if someone could give me a quick overview that would be great!

Step 1: Find a halfling.

Step 2: Ask them to teach you smoking.

Step 3: Smoke a lot.

If you are already a halfling, um, I have no idea what to do.

~player of Gulphphunger
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Re: Smoking on 01/30/2003 03:57 PM CST
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If you are a Halfling you are born knowing 19 images. In order to gain more skill in a particular image, form that image over and over until you gain a rank. Rank are words like sniffler and wheezer or whatever. If you are not a Halfling you need to find one to that can teach you. They must have trained a smoke image to the highest level (master*)in order to teach it. It's not so much a smoking skill as how well you have practiced forming the different images.

~Ascot
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Smoking on 03/21/2003 03:03 PM CST
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Alright, I took up smoking as a hobby and I was wondering...what's the highest image level than a non-Olvi can attain?

Thanks!


-Teeklin Tessenoak, Proud Ranger of Elanthia
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Re: Smoking on 03/21/2003 05:11 PM CST
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3rd I believe. I used to smoke alot, learned about 7 images. I stopped because Non-olvi can't really make any images look even halfway decent.
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Re: Smoking on 03/21/2003 05:27 PM CST
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I thought it was 3rd, but I don't know the wording for what 3rd is...I didn't know if they counted beginner as 0 or 1 on the little scale.

That makes the 3rd level either adequate or one higher than that, I just don't want to spend the time getting one higher if there isn't another level for me to go up.


-Teeklin Tessenoak, Proud Ranger of Elanthia
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Re: Smoking on 03/21/2003 06:34 PM CST
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Adequate is the best your going to get
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Smoking for non-halflings on 04/30/2003 08:33 AM CDT
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How many Images can nonhalflings learn?

and man do you have to smoke alot before you get the next level of skill in an image!

is there a timer for each time you exhale, or should i just keep power chain smoking till i get to the next level?

Thanks
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Re: Smoking for non-halflings on 04/30/2003 09:50 AM CDT
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And speaking of smoking, I'm looking for a willing halfling to teach Gulphphunger at some point. Any interested parties can find Gulph in Riverhaven or contact me via IM (Gulphphunger) after 4:30pm EST on weekdays or any time on weekends.

~player of Gulphphunger
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Re: Smoking for non-halflings on 04/30/2003 03:53 PM CDT
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Non-Halfling can learn same number as a Halfing. I know that there are at least 20 available. Not sure the status on bracelet and phoenix since I don't normally spend time with other Halflings or pay much attention to what's going on with them. I don't know if there's a timer after exhale, I just wrote a script that continuously forms the same image until the cigar goes out in order to learn them all well enough to teach. Took like 2 or 3 days for me.


~Ascot, et al.



"Whatever you need to do, you do it. There is no wrong. If somebody needs to be killed, you kill him, that's the way."
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More Smoking Images please! on 08/27/2003 07:31 PM CDT
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It'd be nice if a visiting Olvi merchant could sell neato, unusual pipes AND teach brand new spanking images to Olvi folks (or anyone, for that matter).

Or better yet, sponser a Smoke Image contest so players can do all the text legwork for ya (for the various skill levels). The winners get to automatically know their submitted images. Then by teaching them will they trickle out to the masses...

I'd like to see this system expanded on. It's got potential!


*Shadoweir TreeSpeaker*
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Re: More Smoking Images please! on 08/27/2003 08:48 PM CDT
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I'd love to see more smoke images in the game, especially my idea for a nice archer smoke image. Shooting a smoke arrow at someone, very cool.

But to any Olvi out there that know a fair few smoke images, I'd love to learn some of the ones I don't know. Hit me up at TeeklinDR if you're interested in teaching some to me, I'll provide the tobacco!


-Teeklin Tessenoak, Proud Ranger of Elanthia

"Resist. Unlearn. Defy." - Incubus
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