It would have been nice for the mech lore split to have happened before raising the price on paper from 12500 to 37500.
It would have even been even nicer to have a way to learn scholarship Primary at -some- decent rate before doing it.
Call us whiners if you will, but we are just trying to play the game like anyboyd else.
player of Xochi
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Re: Price on paper on 03/26/2005 06:36 PM CST
<<All you really have to do is LOOK at the envelopes before you buy them.
>Excellent. I didn't know looking at them told you how many sheets of paper they hold. Thanks a bunch, Dulci.
Trebber
Careful with looking at them. The plain and colored both come in 100 sheets. Unless you get the envelope first and see the right price you don't know if you're getting colored or plain. :) I did just the look, saw the 100 .. and thought the price had gone up. <grin>
>Excellent. I didn't know looking at them told you how many sheets of paper they hold. Thanks a bunch, Dulci.
Trebber
Careful with looking at them. The plain and colored both come in 100 sheets. Unless you get the envelope first and see the right price you don't know if you're getting colored or plain. :) I did just the look, saw the 100 .. and thought the price had gone up. <grin>
Re: Price on paper on 03/26/2005 08:56 PM CST
>l env
From the illustrations of origami folds decorating the square envelope's heavy paper, this is recognizably an envelope commonly associated with holding origami paper. A black "100" painted with a fat brush declares how many sheets the envelope originally held. As you thumb through the envelope, you guess that there are 83 sheets of plain origami paper remaining.
Another good thing to do is read the signs so you know to get, say, the envelope on the table as opposed to somewhere else, which might have ugly puce paper.
~Dulcinia
Pilot Bunni yells, "By order of Captain Dulcinia our new ship's Master is Bates!"
From the illustrations of origami folds decorating the square envelope's heavy paper, this is recognizably an envelope commonly associated with holding origami paper. A black "100" painted with a fat brush declares how many sheets the envelope originally held. As you thumb through the envelope, you guess that there are 83 sheets of plain origami paper remaining.
Another good thing to do is read the signs so you know to get, say, the envelope on the table as opposed to somewhere else, which might have ugly puce paper.
~Dulcinia
Pilot Bunni yells, "By order of Captain Dulcinia our new ship's Master is Bates!"
Re: Price on paper on 03/26/2005 09:52 PM CST
Totally agree Dulcinia - but for that kind of count and information you have to have the envelope in your hand. On the table it doesn't tell you the color.
>Another good thing to do is read the signs so you know to get, say, the envelope on the table as opposed to somewhere else, which might have ugly puce paper. ~Dulcinia
Puce.. such an ugly name for a color that isn't so bad.
From now on I'll read, look and do the GET envelope first to make sure I have the right priced ones.
Oh.. for Apu, are instructions that teach higher still on any agenda?
Thanks!
>Another good thing to do is read the signs so you know to get, say, the envelope on the table as opposed to somewhere else, which might have ugly puce paper. ~Dulcinia
Puce.. such an ugly name for a color that isn't so bad.
From now on I'll read, look and do the GET envelope first to make sure I have the right priced ones.
Oh.. for Apu, are instructions that teach higher still on any agenda?
Thanks!
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Re: Price on paper on 03/31/2005 10:31 AM CST
>>Puce.. such an ugly name for a color that isn't so bad.
The Puse ones go to Ros, Pink to Accounting, and Yellow for your copy..
I love Monsters, Inc.
~Brady, player of I'm a Lover Not a Fighter Elavin Rismel.
Your mind hears Taygar thinking, "(I)"
>get my amar
You get a burnt orange amaryllis.
>wear my amar
But you don't have any hair! Where are you going to put it? Don't answer that!
The Puse ones go to Ros, Pink to Accounting, and Yellow for your copy..
I love Monsters, Inc.
~Brady, player of I'm a Lover Not a Fighter Elavin Rismel.
Your mind hears Taygar thinking, "(I)"
>get my amar
You get a burnt orange amaryllis.
>wear my amar
But you don't have any hair! Where are you going to put it? Don't answer that!
Re: Price on paper on 03/31/2005 10:48 AM CST
Re: Price on paper on 03/31/2005 01:28 PM CST
> Doesn't seem like it. Apparently they don't want mech lore to be learnable past 600 until they do the mech lore split several years from now.
I think that it would be a bad idea to allow it to be learnable past 600. It is necessary to cap it at 600 so that Lore tertiary and secondary guilds have time to catch up to those in the Lore primary guilds with the highest Mechanical Lore. There should be no perks in Lore for the Lore primary guilds, and also no advantage to learning the skills within their primary skillset.
I see it as only fair that Magic, Weapons, Armor, and some Survival skills are learnable into the 1000+ rank range, while Appraisal caps for an Empath at 300 ranks for all intents and purposes, and Mechanical Lore at 600.
All sarcasm aside, I can understand from a design point why you might not want to release harder origami instructions if there is going to be a Mechanical Lore split in the near future. However, I think it is realistic to assume that this split, and ways to learn the various new Mechanical Lore skills, will not happen for at least a year or two, most likely longer.
Would you tell a Barbarian with 600 in their primary weapon that they are just going to have to wait a few years to train it again? I think the answer to that question lies in the introduction of a second flex creature area as a temporary fix until higher level areas can be released in P5.
If it is undesired that people train Mechanical Lore past 600 via origami, other methods for the learning the skill should be introduced in leiu of the Mechanical Lore split. Spread out the caps/difficulties on carving bows in anticipation of woodworking and have bloodwood teach well into the 1000s, or add harder excavation areas such as those found in Throne City as a precursor for mining.
wandering, not wondering - not praying for, nor pondering...
I think that it would be a bad idea to allow it to be learnable past 600. It is necessary to cap it at 600 so that Lore tertiary and secondary guilds have time to catch up to those in the Lore primary guilds with the highest Mechanical Lore. There should be no perks in Lore for the Lore primary guilds, and also no advantage to learning the skills within their primary skillset.
I see it as only fair that Magic, Weapons, Armor, and some Survival skills are learnable into the 1000+ rank range, while Appraisal caps for an Empath at 300 ranks for all intents and purposes, and Mechanical Lore at 600.
All sarcasm aside, I can understand from a design point why you might not want to release harder origami instructions if there is going to be a Mechanical Lore split in the near future. However, I think it is realistic to assume that this split, and ways to learn the various new Mechanical Lore skills, will not happen for at least a year or two, most likely longer.
Would you tell a Barbarian with 600 in their primary weapon that they are just going to have to wait a few years to train it again? I think the answer to that question lies in the introduction of a second flex creature area as a temporary fix until higher level areas can be released in P5.
If it is undesired that people train Mechanical Lore past 600 via origami, other methods for the learning the skill should be introduced in leiu of the Mechanical Lore split. Spread out the caps/difficulties on carving bows in anticipation of woodworking and have bloodwood teach well into the 1000s, or add harder excavation areas such as those found in Throne City as a precursor for mining.
wandering, not wondering - not praying for, nor pondering...
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Re: Price on paper on 04/02/2005 10:48 AM CST
Is there any fuscia? If I can even spell it right...just a funny color...heh
~Brady, player of I'm a Lover Not a Fighter Elavin Rismel.
Your mind hears Taygar thinking, "(I)"
>get my amar
You get a burnt orange amaryllis.
>wear my amar
But you don't have any hair! Where are you going to put it? Don't answer that!
~Brady, player of I'm a Lover Not a Fighter Elavin Rismel.
Your mind hears Taygar thinking, "(I)"
>get my amar
You get a burnt orange amaryllis.
>wear my amar
But you don't have any hair! Where are you going to put it? Don't answer that!