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My character is a nomadic Gnome who hasn't (and probably won't) settle down in Kermoria. I'd like to have the affiliation from my original continent of Albaria. I believe it would be an appropriate option for all Gnomes and Kaldarans. Perhaps Prydeans and Rakash could have the option of "Far West".
I'd like that. But so far they haven't allowed any PC kaldar or gnomes to "affiliate" with gorbesh, nor have they allowed any PC s'kra to "affiliate" with the dragon priests. Oh well... someday, maybe.
We sing in tribute unending to the One, the Truth; Dragon of the World hatched from the great Sky-Egg.
Bringer of Life we sing praises to Thee; One who is All, grant us Thy Blessing.
We sing in tribute unending to the One, the Truth; Dragon of the World hatched from the great Sky-Egg.
Bringer of Life we sing praises to Thee; One who is All, grant us Thy Blessing.
While I cannot speak for the other races, I can speak for Kaldars. Kaldars are not Gorbesh, no matter how much you may want them to be. Kaldars are a PC race, Gorbesh are not.
-Raesh
"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose
-Raesh
"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose
I don't mean to affiliate with the Gorbesh, but with the continent. Living in Houston, TX, I know a lot of Mexicans that are proud of their country of origin even if they don't want to live there for political reasons.
My Gnome is ~not~ Gorbesh, but is from the same continent. Having "of Albaria" in my post title will help explain the strange accent, the frequent cultural confusion (I love making people explain things that they take for granted), and otherwise help spur role-play conversation where I can explain why this Gnome has a particularly fierce hatred of the Gorbesh Nation.
My Gnome is ~not~ Gorbesh, but is from the same continent. Having "of Albaria" in my post title will help explain the strange accent, the frequent cultural confusion (I love making people explain things that they take for granted), and otherwise help spur role-play conversation where I can explain why this Gnome has a particularly fierce hatred of the Gorbesh Nation.
>>While I cannot speak for the other races, I can speak for Kaldars. Kaldars are not Gorbesh, no matter how much you may want them to be. Kaldars are a PC race, Gorbesh are not.
Aren't Kaldar essentially an offshoot of Gorbesh, but as a whole they've been identifying as Kaldar (and living so uniquely different than Gorbesh in light of that) that they don't fully reflect (stat-wise) what a Gorbesh would be?
Aren't Kaldar essentially an offshoot of Gorbesh, but as a whole they've been identifying as Kaldar (and living so uniquely different than Gorbesh in light of that) that they don't fully reflect (stat-wise) what a Gorbesh would be?
>My Gnome is ~not~ Gorbesh, but is from the same continent. Having "of Albaria" in my post title will help explain the strange accent, the frequent cultural confusion (I love making people explain things that they take for granted), and otherwise help spur role-play conversation where I can explain why this Gnome has a particularly fierce hatred of the Gorbesh Nation.
And that's perfectly fine and understandable, you silly long lived gnomes. (As an aside, a Gnome that WAS a Gorbesh would... confuse me. Or be an Ocular?).
I apologize if my post came off wrong, I was not addressing your point, but the one after it, specifically about association with the Gorbesh.
Do consider, however, that any Gnome much over 40 is going to have been born in Albaria.
>Aren't Kaldar essentially an offshoot of Gorbesh, but as a whole they've been identifying as Kaldar (and living so uniquely different than Gorbesh in light of that) that they don't fully reflect (stat-wise) what a Gorbesh would be?
Biologically (And thus stat-wise) they are, essentially, the same. Culturally they are very different. The important aspect here is that it does not fit in the lore for there to be Gorbesh PCs anymore than it does for there to be Ocular PCs, or Merelew PCs.
-Raesh
"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose
And that's perfectly fine and understandable, you silly long lived gnomes. (As an aside, a Gnome that WAS a Gorbesh would... confuse me. Or be an Ocular?).
I apologize if my post came off wrong, I was not addressing your point, but the one after it, specifically about association with the Gorbesh.
Do consider, however, that any Gnome much over 40 is going to have been born in Albaria.
>Aren't Kaldar essentially an offshoot of Gorbesh, but as a whole they've been identifying as Kaldar (and living so uniquely different than Gorbesh in light of that) that they don't fully reflect (stat-wise) what a Gorbesh would be?
Biologically (And thus stat-wise) they are, essentially, the same. Culturally they are very different. The important aspect here is that it does not fit in the lore for there to be Gorbesh PCs anymore than it does for there to be Ocular PCs, or Merelew PCs.
-Raesh
"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose
<While I cannot speak for the other races, I can speak for Kaldars. Kaldars are not Gorbesh, no matter how much you may want them to be. Kaldars are a PC race, Gorbesh are not.
The problem here is neither is a "Race". Gorbesh and Kaldar are closer to policital views than anything else. But if one of them is a race it is the Gorbesh. All Kaldar are Gorbesh in heritage. The same cannot be said for the Gorbesh.
The problem here is neither is a "Race". Gorbesh and Kaldar are closer to policital views than anything else. But if one of them is a race it is the Gorbesh. All Kaldar are Gorbesh in heritage. The same cannot be said for the Gorbesh.
>>The problem here is neither is a "Race". Gorbesh and Kaldar are closer to policital views than anything else. But if one of them is a race it is the Gorbesh. All Kaldar are Gorbesh in heritage. The same cannot be said for the Gorbesh.
No.
Biologically they are the same race, much the same way every single human on Earth is the same race. And, for lack of another term that would avoid confusion, that race is gorbesh (little g). They are not, however, both Gorbesh (Big G), anymore than you'd consider someone from America to be English, because their ancestors came over with the pilgrims. It is a lot more than "political views" that separate them.
-Raesh
"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose
No.
Biologically they are the same race, much the same way every single human on Earth is the same race. And, for lack of another term that would avoid confusion, that race is gorbesh (little g). They are not, however, both Gorbesh (Big G), anymore than you'd consider someone from America to be English, because their ancestors came over with the pilgrims. It is a lot more than "political views" that separate them.
-Raesh
"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose
As much as I always love a discussion about Kaldar/Gorbesh with Raesh, I think the OP's suggestion was simply location-based. An "of Albaria" title makes some sense, especially for Gnomes. I suppose there might be some Kaldar PCs who are old enough to take advantage of it too.
What's the lore word on saying you've only recently crossed over from Albaria? My sense is that this is essentially not possible now and only happened in the past because Trimbolt was amazing.
-- Player of Eyuve
What's the lore word on saying you've only recently crossed over from Albaria? My sense is that this is essentially not possible now and only happened in the past because Trimbolt was amazing.
-- Player of Eyuve
>>What's the lore word on saying you've only recently crossed over from Albaria?
Generally speaking passage between the two continents is Not Trivial (tm).
The suggestion for the title has some merit, I never meant to imply that it did not. That discussion can stay here (though it might be worth dropping a note in the Gnome folder about it).
The discussion about Gorbesh vs Kaldar is something that has been discussed ad nauseum, and my intention was to cut if off before this thread got derailed and I have failed spectacularly. Should you really desire revisit that discussion I'd suggest any number of threads in the Kaldar forums, though here's a particularly relevant post:
http://forums.play.net/forums/DragonRealms/The%20Races%20of%20DragonRealms/Kaldar%20-%20The%20Korner/view/310
-Raesh
"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose
Generally speaking passage between the two continents is Not Trivial (tm).
The suggestion for the title has some merit, I never meant to imply that it did not. That discussion can stay here (though it might be worth dropping a note in the Gnome folder about it).
The discussion about Gorbesh vs Kaldar is something that has been discussed ad nauseum, and my intention was to cut if off before this thread got derailed and I have failed spectacularly. Should you really desire revisit that discussion I'd suggest any number of threads in the Kaldar forums, though here's a particularly relevant post:
http://forums.play.net/forums/DragonRealms/The%20Races%20of%20DragonRealms/Kaldar%20-%20The%20Korner/view/310
-Raesh
"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose
Can I politely put this thread back on topic? The request is to have "affiliations" with place of origin similar to the current default "of Elanthia". The request has nothing to do with the Gorbesh other than the fact that Gnomes and Kaldarans came from the same continent.
If the title "Refugee" was available along with it, that would be optimal. "You see Engineer Geniusclown, Refugee of Albaria, a Gnome." Notice the lack of any reference to the Gorbesh Empire. And of course that's not my in-game name.
If the title "Refugee" was available along with it, that would be optimal. "You see Engineer Geniusclown, Refugee of Albaria, a Gnome." Notice the lack of any reference to the Gorbesh Empire. And of course that's not my in-game name.
Posts were hidden. Cut the snark.
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