I agree, though I'm fairly certain some, but not all, brawling moves are broken. Grapple and tackle come to mind immediately. However, there are brawling combinations that train extremely well, and still allow you to kill the critter you're brawling with.


What JLo said is pretty much spot on.

- GM Dartenian

This is definitely #1 on my "stuff I'd like to see fixed" list.

And...

>>Also: please more non-violent brawling moves.

Ditto x 100

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I knew what you meant, I was just throwing other broken brawling things into the mix.

I thought you could just sleep them, but I guess that might not work if they have to face you for your avenger to attack them.

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What are your stats, Mordibar? Brawling gets a lot better as you increase your strength/agility.

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Attack attack attack works nicely for me when I'm actively training or killing with it. I also constantly bob while training shield and have replaced dodge with bob in all my combos, which moves it well enough by itself.


~Thilan

I use goug claw elbow punch slam and still learn great at 700+ of course I'm hunting Elder Dillos so that might account for some of it

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Other possible combos (the ones I use):

punch/elbow/kick/slice, repeat

gouge/slap/claw/elbow, repeat

I have no problem at all locking brawling with these combos, with very disparate characters.

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>>I think the problem is with newer characters, just using non damaging maneuvers at low ranks doesn't yield experience... try damaging attack until you get it a bit higher.

This is definitely true. My new battle empath character is having a horrendous time learning brawling. Definitely use the attack combos if you can.

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Traders can get brawling gear, and there is another shop- I think either in Rossman's or P5. Someone else will clarify the location of the other.


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Appritiate it.

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Personally I just spam bob until locked. It works quite well, doesn't take long, and is fairly silly.

Now if you want to KILL something...

I totally wish "Bobbing for Spam" were a real thing. I believe I will go to the store to order the implements necessary to make that happen.
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Remember that as of now, experience is directly related to damage (with exceptions). The problem is that brawling damage is directly related to two things, stats, and armor/brawling weapons.

Make sure to use the moves that coincide with your good stats (assuming you have any), stay away from grappling of any sort, and if you're still having problems, try to get ahold of a set of brawling gear.

Unfortunately, this is likely to be a problem you'll meet again in two, three hundred ranks. Compared to fighting with a weapon, it comes up short many times.

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>Where can I get cheap brawling gear?

The only reliable source is a Trader buying from a single shop up in Muspar'i.

Each piece sells at the shop for between one and two gold lirums. Dunno if you consider that cheap.

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Uhh...well when I brawl I have spiked knuckles and an elbow spike...

Combo is gouge, claw, elbow, shove, punch. or gouge, claw, elbow, punch, slam.

Locked me up since I started in rats, and still does me good in leucros. Then again my character is Prydaen, I have claws. Though there are claws to be found somewhere to use as brawling gear, too. Also umm Boar Clan sells some brawling gear if you're willing to make the hike. And I know a few Traders sell brawling gear for a plat a piece, I go to the bazaar tents often and see brawling gear all over the place.

Hope that helps =D

Hrm. The combo is good. I use the same one without the circle, bob, or weave at the beginning. I wonder if the dagger in your hand is messing you up. Are you holding that dagger in your right hand? If so, the slice you will try to slice with that dagger instread of your fist, but I wouldn't think it would impact learning all that much. Assuming right handed use, how badly is slicing with a jabber affecting your balance/position? You are also nearing (but have by no means reached) the upper end of wher egoblins will teach you. Buy 30-35 ranks I had moved on to eels with all three of the Barbs I have played. At goblin levels, again, I wouldn't think it would matter as much, but could poor mentals be holding you back? Are you hitting poorly due to excessively low agility perhaps. I'm just sort of brainstorming possible issues here. Feel free to chime in anyone.

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I'm a fan of (BOB * 30) hunt hunt hunt (BOB * 3) ad nauseum, but my brawling skill is still 110 ranks behind my combats.

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