No, not yet. Only hauberks can be made.

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>and shirts?

Shirts arent full body protection.

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>who sells capped forged chain these days??

Cossetta sells my chain. See her. As far as appraisals (I'm not posting them), I assure you, they are capped.

Taghz was forging chain, but I haven't seen/noticed him around. He could be hiding.

Redarch is forging chain, and my toes have missed his axe recently.

I apologize to any other folks forging capped stuff. My beer is affected by the memory I'm drinking.

>Where do I find Cossetta?

Crossing bazaar. She's been around at all kinds of different times, near as I can tell. :D

I'm forging some stuff now, I'll make sure she has the 2 capped chain shirts you are looking for.

Doubt it.

Name	Hin	Punc	Slice	Imp	Fire	Ice	Elec	Conc.	Weight	Price	Location
Chain Lorica	M	FM	GM	LM	MM	MM	PM	MS	250	3000	Crossing
Double-linked Chain Tunic	M	GG	GG	GG	MG	MG	PG	FS	350	3500	Riverhaven
Medium Tunic	M	GG	GG	GG	MG	MG	PG	FS	330	67650	Shard
Sinuous Tunic	M	GG	GG	GG	MG	MG	PG	FS	370	67650	Shard
Small Tunic	M	GG	GG	GG	MG	MG	PG	FS	300	41041	Shard
Studded Chain Lorica	M	FM	GM	LM	MM	MM	PM	MS	250	3000	Riverhaven
Triple-linked Chain Lorica Crafted from Blued Steel	M	FM	GM	LM	MM	MM	PM	MS	250	277500	Crossing

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>We are Rangers, all your releases are belong to us. ~ Sylvado

Not sure if this is capped or not.

>app lori

The chain lorica is light chain.
The lorica looks like it offers protection for the following areas:
chest
abdomen
back
You feel certain that a chain lorica appears to impose fair maneuvering hindrance and offers:
moderate protection and good damage absorption for puncture attacks.
good protection and good damage absorption for slice attacks.
low protection and good damage absorption for impact attacks.
moderate protection and moderate damage absorption for fire attacks.
moderate protection and moderate damage absorption for cold attacks.
poor protection and moderate damage absorption for electrical attacks.
If you were only maneuvering in a chain lorica you would be unhindered.
But considering all the armor and shields you are wearing or carrying, you are currently insignificantly hindered.
You are certain that the chain lorica is of average strength, and is in pristine condition.
The chain lorica is made with metal.
The chain lorica is moderately flexible.
You wonder if the chain lorica might weigh a few hundred stones.
You are certain that the chain lorica is worth exactly 2400 lirums.
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The one who is obsessed with power.. and who still has a long way to go.

>>I bought it from the trader that sells Redarche's stuff and she said it was capped

The trader is Martyka and yes, her comment that it was "capped" meant it was as LIGHT as can be made, which was what I was asked for. To make an item more protective, generally, the weight and hinder will end up being higher.

Not sure if Martyka mentioned it, but I offer a moneyback guarantee. If you wish to trade a piece of armor I forged for another of the same type/price, I'll be happy to make you a lorica with higher protections, but it will weigh more and be more hindering most likely.

Just place your order with Martyka and if she doesn't have what you want in stock, I'll make it.

Redarch
Dwarf with an Axe.. Watch your toes!

Wow Redarch, I'm impressed. A real businesman in DR?

I dunno, a lot of the forgers I've dealt with do that. I know Xixist used to exchange a marked item for another marked item of the same type/price range so I could get a heavier mace once I trained some and not have to buy two maces.

I am --- Navak

Just wanted to correct a mis-apprehension that may have creeped into the discussion. My "exchange" rules are not something that only I do. I know of a number of smiths that will do the same. We'd prefer satisfied customers, rather than folks that felt they got ripped off, whether they did or not. So, I didn't mention my exchange policy to set me up as a "oohh... he's nice." type of person. I'm not alone in doing this.

Switching to a slightly different subject, I've just asked this question in the Forging folders and will raise it here.

My understanding of the term "capped", is "An item that has the highest possible stats AT THAT WEIGHT for THAT SPECIFIC ITEM".

So, for example, a 150 stone chain lorica with "good" slice protection is capped if no one else can make the same item at the same weight with higher stats. It does not mean that just because a 402 stone HC Hauberk has higher stats than a 150 stone lorica, that the lorica isn't capped.

At least thats how I use the term.

Just wondering if any of my fellow weapon and armor smiths use the term differently.


Redarch
Dwarf with an Axe.. Watch your toes!

Yes, unless you specifically state "capped protection" or something similar it means at that weight. Though I don't like to use the term capped since it indicates the best of everything has been discovered.

I am --- Navak

>Is it possible to get plate stats on a chain lorica?

Not a chance.

I did some different weight loricas based on the conversation here to confirm what I suspected. Basically, my conclusion is that its crap.

Basically lorica's seem to cap at good absorbs, mod construction, and range fair to mod hinderance as the weight goes up. I tested from 150 to 450 stones.

If you want LC or HC chest protection at those weights, a chain shirt is far better for the weight and will give you mod hinderance and high absorbs. I highly doubt we'll come close to plate-like apps with this version of that template.

I'm looking for a store bought light chain armor that doesn't protect the arms and maybe doesn't protect the abdomen.

If anyone knows where I can buy something like this that doesn't protect arms or doesn't protect arms and abdomen please let me know where here.

Thanks.

Thanks this actually helps a lot. I'll just have to make a trip to Shard and pick up a a double-linked chain tunic.

I'm just hoping by adding some leather vambraces to my current armor set up will be enough hinderance to train leather as well.

I'm currently training all five armors using

A visored helm (HP crossing helm)
Scale greaves (HC crossing greaves)
Reinforced leather gloves (Leather crossing gloves. Not heavy enough to train >< )
Chain shirt (LC crossing chain shirt)
Scale Aventail (LP crossing aventail)

If I remove the chain shirt and replace it with the double linked chain tunic and put leather vambraces on my arms, does anyone think that'll be enough to train leathers? I would really like to try to keep LC on my chest as when I wear leather my chest seems to take a real beating.

I currently only have about 30-40 ranks in all armors as a barbarian.

Seli's Armory in Riverhaven has basically the same chest/abdomen/back only light chain tunic as the ones in Shard. Same hinderance and protection but 350 stones in weight vs 300-370 depending on which racial type one you get. And for about 1/20th the price if coins are at all a concern to you. (3.5 gold lirum vs almost 7 plat dokoras) It's the Chain Tunic: Double linked, metal.

I think the chain lorica in Crossing is pretty cheap.

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[Rayje's Glass House]
You are surrounded by clear antique crystal walls decorated with massive stained glass murals.

Rayje tosses his stones from hand to hand.

I smile to look like I care. I laugh because I dont.

Ive been trying to find a forged chain hauberk for some time. Are there any chain forgers in the crossing? If so, can you tell me the appraisal of lc and hc hauberks (and/or augmented hauberks) that you have for sale?

Under the current combat system, how many ranks in light and/or heavy chain do you need to work down stealth hinderance as much as possible? This is for an armor tert guild.

Thanks in advance





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Hmm really? Well I'm also survival tert. But I'm pretty sure armor ranks at least factor into the formula.





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Best setup I've seen as far as stealth is concerend is a mix of lc and leather.

I haven't messed with bone or cloth armor though, but as a moon mage you can get light / light hind with a mix of lc and leather.

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