I am a Barbarian with 196 shield, 191 LC, 169 HC, and 146 leather, and here's what I wear and my hindrance:

You are wearing a visored chain helm, a chain hauberk, a buckler azure bearing two boobries or (heraldry altered croc buckler, armworn) and some perfect bison-hide gloves.

But considering all the armor and shields you are wearing or carrying, you are currently insignificantly hindered.

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>I was wondering if there was an LC/HC armor setup that might give me less of a hindrance. Currently, with 273 LC, 235 HC, 139 Leather, and 204 shield, I'm lightly hindered using an LC hauberk, HC gloves, HC helm, and Leather mask, and a (held, not worn) croc skin buckler (all your typical, player-made stuff). Perhaps a chain shirt setup of some sort? Halp!

a LC hauberk probably has lower hinderance than most shirt/greaves combos. If you're throwing in leather on top then the best bet would be leather on the torso. The shield adds hinderance too, so you could train parry while you work stealth... Honestly I wouldn't worry about tweaking your setup too much. Hiding at pole is relatively easy, and melee is eventually impossible.

I'm a barbarian (an old, old barbarian) with 285 leather 115 Heavy Chain and 140 something shield. Wearing leathers, chain balaclava, chain gloves, and a croc shield on the arm I get "insignifcant" hinderance.

If your a newer barbarian with 200+ chain skills and 150 leather why even screw around wearing a leather cowl? Simply just to train the skill for extra tdp's? Or does a cowl somehow actually help hang in there against tough critters?

Lightly hindered is the best it gets for armor terts when fully armored. If you don't mind fighting without a helm and shield you can get insiginificant.

>>>Hrm, see the thing is, I'm not really interested in stealth, and I've only got leather working right now just because of the eye mask. I'd be more than happy to ditch it altogether if there was a pure LC/HC setup that could net me lower hindrance. The chain helm is heavy chain.

Not sure about the hindrance when you're wearing it, but I got this at the new (relatively) armor shop in Haven:

The helm looks like it offers protection for the following areas:

head
neck
right eye
left eye

You feel certain that a visored chain helm appears to impose light maneuvering hindrance and offers:
good protection and moderate damage absorption for puncture attacks.
good protection and moderate damage absorption for slice attacks.
good protection and moderate damage absorption for impact attacks.
moderate protection and moderate damage absorption for fire attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for cold attacks.
low protection and moderate damage absorption for electrical attacks.

With 220+ in heavy chain, I get "If you were only maneuvering in a visored chain helm you would be unhindered."

Meigs

>In that case, ditch the eye mask, it is doing nothing for you. Get a chain helm or balaclava. Better protection and similar (likely even lower) hinderance.

See, the only Heavy Chain helm I found was at the Riverhaven Ironworks, and it didn't cover eyes, and the protection app was way worse. Where should I be looking? Here's what I use now.

>app helm

The chain helm is heavy chain.

The helm looks like it offers protection for the following areas:

head

neck

You feel certain that a full chain helm appears to impose insignificant maneuvering hindrance and offers:

good protection and good damage absorption for puncture attacks.

good protection and good damage absorption for slice attacks.

good protection and good damage absorption for impact attacks.

moderate protection and moderate damage absorption for fire attacks.

moderate protection and moderate damage absorption for cold attacks.

low protection and moderate damage absorption for electrical attacks.

If you were only maneuvering in a full chain helm you could expect to be unhindered.

You are certain that the chain helm is fairly sturdy, and is in pristine condition.

The chain helm is made with metal.

The chain helm is quite supple.

You are certain that the chain helm weighs exactly 102 stones.

You are certain that the chain helm is worth exactly 130 lirums.

Roundtime: 8 seconds.

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Drat, tried the setup with the Haven helm, but alas, I still get lightly hindered.. C'est la vie.

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As a thief, I made the move to drop leather in favor of full LC. I get less hindrance in full LC than mixing Leathers with LC accessories, which is stupid to me.

The armor mixing penalty makes no sense but ah well, Im better protected now with less hindrance.

>As was mentioned, there's an LC balaclava available in Shard, that might get you even a little lower in the range than that HC helm you have.

Is it dedicated LC or neutral? Most store-bought chain accessories are neutral, and will teach whichever skill is higher. I think the balaclava is neutral.


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Also, I can shoot bees.

The balaclava is light chain.

The only differences between it and the visored chain helm in Haven, other than being LC and HC respectively, is the visored helm is slightly better constructed and has a little better cold absorption.

R>compare helm with bala
You are certain that the chain helm is a little stronger than the slate grey balaclava.
You are certain that the chain helm is about as easy to maneuver with as the slate grey balaclava.
You are certain that the chain helm is about as resistant to fire and is about as absorptive of fire as the slate grey balaclava.
You are certain that the chain helm is about as resistant to cold and is somewhat more absorptive of cold than the slate grey balaclava.
You are certain that the chain helm is about as resistant to electricity and is about as absorptive of electricity as the slate grey balaclava.
You are certain that the chain helm is about as resistant to puncture damage and is about as absorptive of puncture damage as the slate grey balaclava.
You are certain that the chain helm is about as resistant to slice damage and is about as absorptive of slice damage as the slate grey balaclava.
You are certain that the chain helm is about as resistant to impact damage and is about as absorptive of impact damage as the slate grey balaclava.
You believe that the chain helm weighs about the same as the slate grey balaclava.
[Roundtime: 8 seconds]

inv arm
You are wearing some golden chain gloves adorned with carved ivory lion's teeth, a blackened chain helm worked into the visage of a roaring warcat, a darkened kertig shirt with an engraved chestplate and menacing pauldrons and some darkened damite greaves embellished with silver and crimson paintings.
>app other shirt careful
The kertig shirt is light chain.

The shirt looks like it offers protection for the following areas:

right arm
left arm
chest
abdomen
back

You feel certain that a darkened kertig shirt with an engraved chestplate and menacing pauldrons appears to impose fair maneuvering hindrance and offers:
high protection and great damage absorption for puncture attacks.
good protection and great damage absorption for slice attacks.
high protection and great damage absorption for impact attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for fire attacks.
moderate protection and good damage absorption for cold attacks.
low protection and good damage absorption for electrical attacks.

If you were only maneuvering in a darkened kertig shirt with an engraved chestplate and menacing pauldrons you would be unhindered.
But considering all the armor and shields you are wearing or carrying, you are currently unhindered.
That's at 155 in LC with an all LC setup and no shield w/shield it's insig

Seeing that, I certainly can't fault them for taking away kertig fists from quests and critter treasure.

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