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Anyone know what kinda stats you need to swing this 18 stone HE at minimum RT?
with 20 strength and 18 agility I get 3 secs on feint, 4 on draw, and 6 on sweep and slice
How much further I need to go in strength or agility to get 4s on draws and slice?
Sentai.
The O.G.
Can someone help me out with effective strength? I have the minimum roundtime link.... http://dr.six-something.org/rt_calc.php but what exactly is effective strength? I guess it would be a combination of agility and strength...but can someone clarify?
Effective strength (when dealing with weapon RTs) is a combination of strength/agility and modified by the weapon's balance and suitability to strength.
If those stats on the weapon are even, then the effective strength for that weapon is just the average of your strength and agility. It is when the stats on the weapon are uneven that things get interesting.
Let's say you want a certain RT on a doom hammer. The doom hammer requires 20 effective strength for that RT, is completely unbalanced, and is totally suited for strength. Your agility won't matter at all and you'll want 20 strength.
Similarly, the doom dagger that's completely balanced and totally unsuited to strength won't carry about your strength and you'll want 20 agility.
Most weapons are not in any of these perfect cases, but I hope they help you understand how it all works.
Arcelebor
"Back off, man. I'm a scientist."
If those stats on the weapon are even, then the effective strength for that weapon is just the average of your strength and agility. It is when the stats on the weapon are uneven that things get interesting.
Let's say you want a certain RT on a doom hammer. The doom hammer requires 20 effective strength for that RT, is completely unbalanced, and is totally suited for strength. Your agility won't matter at all and you'll want 20 strength.
Similarly, the doom dagger that's completely balanced and totally unsuited to strength won't carry about your strength and you'll want 20 agility.
Most weapons are not in any of these perfect cases, but I hope they help you understand how it all works.
Arcelebor
"Back off, man. I'm a scientist."
I just ran a couple weapons through this calculator. I kept everything the same but one weighed 28 stones and one weighed 35 stones. To decrease roundtime on the heavier weapon in need 1 increase in agility or strength by one. But to decrease on rt for the ligher weapon increase strength or agility by 3. I put strength and agility suitability as reasonably. And they are he weapons. Can any one explain this?
Dragamar
Dragamar
The effective strength needed for minimum roundtime for a weapon is half the weapon's weight rounded up plus fifteen (ten for LE). The 'jumps' in RT occur in increments of 5 (sometimes 10) effective strength - so if you have a 30 stone weapon, you will see a reduction in RT at 25 effective strength as well as gaining minimum rt at 30 effective strength.
The weapon that weighs 28 stones gains minimum RT at 29 effective strength, and thus would see a jump in RT at 24 (and I believe 19) effective strength, while the weapon that gains min RT at 35 stones requires 33 effective strength, and would get a jump in RT at 28 (and probably 23) effective strength.
If you have, say, 22 agility and 23 strength, raising either stat one point will get you a reduction in your roundtime for the 36 stone weapon (raising your effective strength to 23), but to gain a reduction in the 28 stone weapon you will need 3 points in either stat (raising your effective strength to 24).
Orpheus: "You've been powering this machine with a forsaken child?"
Venture: "What? It's not like I used the whole thing."
The weapon that weighs 28 stones gains minimum RT at 29 effective strength, and thus would see a jump in RT at 24 (and I believe 19) effective strength, while the weapon that gains min RT at 35 stones requires 33 effective strength, and would get a jump in RT at 28 (and probably 23) effective strength.
If you have, say, 22 agility and 23 strength, raising either stat one point will get you a reduction in your roundtime for the 36 stone weapon (raising your effective strength to 23), but to gain a reduction in the 28 stone weapon you will need 3 points in either stat (raising your effective strength to 24).
Orpheus: "You've been powering this machine with a forsaken child?"
Venture: "What? It's not like I used the whole thing."
>>Can any one explain this?
That calculator (its totally sweet by the way) will tell you the Str/Agi to get to the next RT drop. When you did your weight test it gave you the drops for those weapons. The lighter weapon had a drop farther away than the heavier weapon. Of course the lighter weapon would be in a lower swing bracket than the heavy one both before an after the drop you calculated, and it would take many more drops for the 35 stone weapon than the 25 to reach minimums on both.
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Ranger Hanryu _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _, Sword of House Calibanor
>It's not just a simple matter of "Oh wheeee, let's add a last name ~ Solomon
That calculator (its totally sweet by the way) will tell you the Str/Agi to get to the next RT drop. When you did your weight test it gave you the drops for those weapons. The lighter weapon had a drop farther away than the heavier weapon. Of course the lighter weapon would be in a lower swing bracket than the heavy one both before an after the drop you calculated, and it would take many more drops for the 35 stone weapon than the 25 to reach minimums on both.
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Ranger Hanryu _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _, Sword of House Calibanor
>It's not just a simple matter of "Oh wheeee, let's add a last name ~ Solomon
