Non-forged HE on 10/10/2005 12:32 PM CDT
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Are there any good non-forged HE's being sold in shops out there? Im looking to get away from the traditional forged weapon and an wondering what type of str/agil i'd need to get decent RT's with <insert mystery store weapon o' doom here>.
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Re: Non-forged HE on 10/10/2005 12:43 PM CDT
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There is a Schiavona sold in Ratha I beleive, has heavy slice with moderate impact, is heavier than a traditional broad but not sure of the weight on it. I got one (schiavona) from the recent fest that i like, was told it was the same stat wise as the Ratha one but haven't seen it for myself. Of course the Nimsha sold in Leth is a decent blade since it has heavy slice and is fair/fair balance and suitability wise. There is a Karambit (elven blade) and a robe sword sold on aesry that i have heard good things about as well. I'm sure some more folks will chime in.

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Re: Non-forged HE on 10/10/2005 12:54 PM CDT
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If you want to stay with broadswords, the one from Steel Claw Clan is a bit heavier than the one from Crossing- but when I had one I simply couldn't damage it either. The last time I used one was well before the changes that brought agility into the RT equation.

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Re: Non-forged HE on 10/10/2005 01:14 PM CDT
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There is also the SCC swappable axe- nowhere near forged stats but a nice weapon for storebought.
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Re: Non-forged HE on 10/10/2005 01:25 PM CDT
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Schiavona is 52 stones or some such. Maybe 56?



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Re: Non-forged HE on 10/10/2005 02:04 PM CDT
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The Schiavona and the Robe sword are swept-hilt falchion clones. They're P/H/M F/F 56 stones.

A better choice, IMO, is the Leth Recade. N/H/M D/R at 50 stones. Also at 50 stones is the Aesry Abassi at L/H/F F/F.

If you want something lighter. I really like the SCC broadsword. L/M/M P/F at 40 stones. But the horsemen's pick from Theren is similar at L/M/M D/R at 40 stones as well.

-Wighten
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Re: Non-forged HE on 10/10/2005 02:41 PM CDT
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As a paladin I really lke the idea of using a robe sword, but I plugged the stats into a calculator and the 43 effective STR/AGIL is a bit scarey for the min RT's. Maybe the Abassi is a better choice.

For my its more about the look than anything else(i'll admit it) which is indicative of a shift from forged to store bought.

Thanks for the help everyone.
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Re: Non-forged HE on 10/10/2005 03:10 PM CDT
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I'm fond of both the schiavona if I want a slicing weapon and the cinqueda if I want a puncturing weapon. I try to avoid forged weapons myself, though I do have my charactor wear forged armor.

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Re: Non-forged HE on 10/10/2005 05:14 PM CDT
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Yea I bought the cinqueda awile ago, seemed a bit too heavy for it to be usuable. Hunting at level I could barely touch a critter when using that as opposed to a broadsword
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Re: Non-forged HE on 10/10/2005 05:32 PM CDT
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The problem with the recade is the dismal balance. The falchion is one of the best HEs available without rare metals because it's a heavier blade that is still fairly balanced; I expect that if forging 2.0 includes the falchion template it will end up being significantly more popular than bastard swords for HE use. True, the base weight is nearly half again that of a broadsword, but for those who have invested greater amounts in strength and agility, it's a superior weapon.





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Re: Non-forged HE on 10/13/2005 11:55 AM CDT
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Anyone happen to have that old quest-prize HE rapier around for sale? Been trying to find one of those for ages.
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Re: Non-forged HE on 10/25/2005 08:08 PM CDT
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The abassi from Aesry has the highest slice of any non-forged HE in the realms. My opinion, it is the best you can get from a shop.

Do some compares if you want to see it...

Gidske
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Re: Non-forged HE on 10/25/2005 08:52 PM CDT
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How do they compare to the falchions?

-Wighten
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Re: Non-forged HE on 10/26/2005 10:29 AM CDT
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>How do they compare to the falchions?

A Swept-hilt Falchion and Robe Sword (and if my memory serves me right, the Schiavona too) are all the same weapons with different names, at least as far as comparisons go, they equal each other.

Falchion/Robe Sword/Schiavona
Weigh: 56 stones
App: Poor/Heavy/Moderate
Balance,Suited: Fairly/Fairly
Construction: Moderately Strong

Since I don't have a Falchion or Schiavona on me currently, being on Aesry, I do have a Robe Sword which will work for the other two then.

You are certain that the oak-pommel abassi is about as strong as the robe sword.
You are certain that the oak-pommel abassi is about as balanced as the robe sword.
You are certain that the oak-pommel abassi is about as suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength as the robe sword.
You are certain that the oak-pommel abassi does a little more puncture damage than the robe sword.
You are certain that the oak-pommel abassi does a little more slice damage than the robe sword.
You are certain that the oak-pommel abassi does less impact damage than the robe sword.
You are certain that the oak-pommel abassi weighs a little less than the robe sword.

Abassi
Weigh: 50 stones
App: Low/Heavy/Fair
Balance,Suited: Fairly/Fairly
Construction: Moderately Strong

Gidske
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Re: Non-forged HE on 10/26/2005 04:59 PM CDT
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Thanks... the Abassi, I was hearing Arzfilt in my head for some reason and was really skeptical. Thanks for the compare and reminding me what the Abassi is.

-Wighten
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