Appraisal? on 11/12/2005 07:24 AM CST
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When Should I be able to appraise for damage and the like?
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Re: Appraisal? on 11/12/2005 08:21 AM CST
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you should start seeing guesses at it around 50 ranks of appraisal.

I think you should get certain appraisals with something close to 250 combined ranks weapon and appraisal
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Re: Appraisal? on 11/17/2005 12:01 AM CST
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>I think you should get certain appraisals with something close to 250 combined ranks weapon and appraisal

Non traders get consistent certains on damage with 175-200 combined ranks using appraise careful, iirc.

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Re: Appraisal? on 11/17/2005 01:53 AM CST
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>>>Non traders get consistent certains on damage with 175-200 combined ranks using appraise careful, iirc.

Closer to the 200 side, I believe. At least that's where I got them. And I'm under the impression that you start getting weights at ~350 combined ranks.

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Re: Appraisal? on 11/17/2005 02:20 AM CST
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>And I'm under the impression that you start getting weights at ~350 combined ranks.

Sounds about right, with a modifier for weight. Lighter items like skinning knives are easier to get certains on than 120 stone mattocks.


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Re: Appraisal? on 11/17/2005 04:02 AM CST
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>And I'm under the impression that you start getting weights at ~350 combined ranks.

Nothing terribly accurate, and 'careful' makes little difference. I'm over 500 combined, and don't often get a certain-exactly




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Re: Appraisal? on 11/17/2005 04:30 AM CST
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It may be 350 ranks for a trader, if that's what we're talking about. However at 600 combined ranks I still don't get certains on my armor or weapon every time weight wise. Even apping careful.


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Re: Appraisal? on 11/17/2005 02:03 PM CST
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Are you even sure that weights are under combined ranks? Doesn't seem like knowing a lot about HE would give you any more clue on the weight. I know when i hit around 250 appraisal, I started getting confidant's on the weight on everything, not just my best weapons and armor. I'm pretty sure weight is just a straight appraisal check. Of course, I haven't done extensive testing... just my initial observations.

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Re: Appraisal? on 11/17/2005 10:48 PM CST
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After checking with a few characters, I'd have to agree with Wighten. I don't have any traders with high enough appraisal to check, but for non-traders it seems to be around 275-300 appraisal to start getting weights, and not with any consistancy.

My impression was being based off of a moon mage character with few armor/weapon ranks but high appraisal. My mistake for not verifying that appraisal was weighted more than weapon skill.


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Re: Appraisal? on 11/18/2005 08:47 AM CST
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Here's some data for you to play with:

Trader, circle 24

Medium Edged: 34 77.99% clear
Appraisal: 105.20

You draw out your pommeled scimitar from the lemon yellow sheath.
>app scim careful

A ruby pommeled scimitar with fierce dragons etched along the blade is a medium edged melee-ranged weapon.

You think it is likely that it could do:
poor puncture damage
moderate slice damage
low impact damage

You are confident that the scimitar is poorly balanced and is fairly suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.

You are certain that the pommeled scimitar is fairly sturdy, and is in pristine condition.

The pommeled scimitar is made with metal.
The pommeled scimitar has a bit of weight to it.
You are certain that the pommeled scimitar is worth exactly 65500 lirums, 81875 kronars, or 59081 dokoras.
Roundtime: 16 seconds.

For what it's worth. Have fun!


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Re: Appraisal? on 11/18/2005 08:00 PM CST
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A bit more data to play with:

Medium Edged: 164 29.67% clear
Appraisal: 290 97.92% clear


You get an engraved scimitar hilted in flame-kissed gold from inside your traveler's pack.
>app my scim careful

An engraved scimitar hilted in flame-kissed gold is a medium edged melee-ranged weapon.

You are certain that it could do:
poor puncture damage
heavy slice damage
low impact damage

You are certain that the scimitar is fairly balanced and is reasonably suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.

You are certain that the engraved scimitar is fairly sturdy, and is in pristine condition.

The engraved scimitar is made with metal.
You wonder if the engraved scimitar might weigh a few tens of stones.
You are certain that the engraved scimitar is worth exactly 125000 kronars.


Yavus
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