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I've got a spear and I want to learn how to use it. What are the attack routines?
- Mhikal
You gotta couple different options.
If ya gots some muscles and endurance, could just jab-thrust-lunge.
If ya like me and don't gotta lotta muscle or endurance, try jab-sweep-thrust-feint-lunge.
Remember, some spears are a bit heavy and will take a while to swing, you might wanna be wearing a shield on yer arm and utilize other advantages of ya Guild.
Regards,
Kalkomar Axebiter
Staan Grimis
If ya gots some muscles and endurance, could just jab-thrust-lunge.
If ya like me and don't gotta lotta muscle or endurance, try jab-sweep-thrust-feint-lunge.
Remember, some spears are a bit heavy and will take a while to swing, you might wanna be wearing a shield on yer arm and utilize other advantages of ya Guild.
Regards,
Kalkomar Axebiter
Staan Grimis
Is puncture damage more substantial than slice and impact? I'm just trying to figure out the benefits of pike weapons, since they're so flaming heavy and I can't seem to find any spears over heavy damage that are at a reasonable weight.
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>>Is puncture damage more substantial than slice and impact? I'm just trying to figure out the benefits of pike weapons, since they're so flaming heavy and I can't seem to find any spears over heavy damage that are at a reasonable weight.<<
There are no benefits of pike weapons. But saying that you can't find anything over heavy puncture... There are no ME's at heavy puncture without forging, does that make them crappy weapons? Heavy in a weapon stat isn't bad.
But yes, pikes suck. Not as badly as short staff, but...
-Wighten
There are no benefits of pike weapons. But saying that you can't find anything over heavy puncture... There are no ME's at heavy puncture without forging, does that make them crappy weapons? Heavy in a weapon stat isn't bad.
But yes, pikes suck. Not as badly as short staff, but...
-Wighten
>There are no benefits of pike weapons.
What? There is umm... pikes are... Uhh... let me get back to you.
But saying that you can't find anything over heavy puncture... There are no ME's at heavy puncture without forging, does that make them crappy weapons? Heavy in a weapon stat isn't bad.
Problem with that there are no pikes worth forging. Why does a spear have to weigh at least 40 stones when a sabre can get heavy puncture at almost half the weight. Also, ME's have a lower RT than pikes which would be more comparitive to HE than ME, due to RT reductions.
Also impact doesnt figure into jabbing attacks, so damage is based off of straight puncture.
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What? There is umm... pikes are... Uhh... let me get back to you.
But saying that you can't find anything over heavy puncture... There are no ME's at heavy puncture without forging, does that make them crappy weapons? Heavy in a weapon stat isn't bad.
Problem with that there are no pikes worth forging. Why does a spear have to weigh at least 40 stones when a sabre can get heavy puncture at almost half the weight. Also, ME's have a lower RT than pikes which would be more comparitive to HE than ME, due to RT reductions.
Also impact doesnt figure into jabbing attacks, so damage is based off of straight puncture.
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>>Pikes suck to forge, yada yada yada ......
>>Why does a spear have to weigh at least 40 stones when a sabre can get heavy puncture at almost half the weight.
Bah! You people have the solution sitting in your lap! Just tie a sabre to a stick. Voila! Heavy puncture pike.
:-P
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>>Why does a spear have to weigh at least 40 stones when a sabre can get heavy puncture at almost half the weight.
Bah! You people have the solution sitting in your lap! Just tie a sabre to a stick. Voila! Heavy puncture pike.
:-P
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>I use parry, jab, sweep, thrust, feint, lunge, draw for my stabbing spears. The lunge usually does tremendous damage.
Yeah, problem for me is that lunge is the only maneuver that does any real damage. Since the change, jab and thrust got neutered and sweep is just rediculous.
"Oooh look at me Marge, I'm making people Happy! I'm the magical man, from Happy Land, who lives in a gumdrop house on Lolly Pop Lane!!!!...... By the way I was being sarcastic."
Yeah, problem for me is that lunge is the only maneuver that does any real damage. Since the change, jab and thrust got neutered and sweep is just rediculous.
"Oooh look at me Marge, I'm making people Happy! I'm the magical man, from Happy Land, who lives in a gumdrop house on Lolly Pop Lane!!!!...... By the way I was being sarcastic."
I have the same problem with my spear. It does so little damage I wonder if it's even worth it. I took it up because I wanted to be able to joust some day but the thing is so hard to train, I don't know if I'll ever have enough ranks anyway to joust well.
Maybe I should take up the halbard?
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Maybe I should take up the halbard?
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<<Is puncture damage more substantial than slice and impact? I'm just trying to figure out the benefits of pike weapons, since they're so flaming heavy and I can't seem to find any spears over heavy damage that are at a reasonable weight.>>
A pike is a long weapon generally 10 - 25 ft in length. By yourself a pike is virtually useless. But in the end the pike is a formation weapon and not intended for use by itself. They are heavy because of the length. At least 7lbs at the shortest length, but they are tip heavy making it difficult to hold the weapon at a lethal angle. Thier puncture damage comes from the momentum of the charging enemy, not from your strength.
Pikes were mainly designed as a repellent against charging calvary. Stancing yourself in a manner that allows the horse to run up onto the pike, effectively killing himself and the rider.
Mind you, the above is the real use of the weapon. I can't speculate as to what people were thinking when it was designed for DR, other than to say that they most likely didn't know what a pike is
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A pike is a long weapon generally 10 - 25 ft in length. By yourself a pike is virtually useless. But in the end the pike is a formation weapon and not intended for use by itself. They are heavy because of the length. At least 7lbs at the shortest length, but they are tip heavy making it difficult to hold the weapon at a lethal angle. Thier puncture damage comes from the momentum of the charging enemy, not from your strength.
Pikes were mainly designed as a repellent against charging calvary. Stancing yourself in a manner that allows the horse to run up onto the pike, effectively killing himself and the rider.
Mind you, the above is the real use of the weapon. I can't speculate as to what people were thinking when it was designed for DR, other than to say that they most likely didn't know what a pike is
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<<Yeah, problem for me is that lunge is the only maneuver that does any real damage. Since the change, jab and thrust got neutered and sweep is just rediculous.>>
As it should. A lunge is when you throw your body into it, therefore more power is behind it, a thrust and a jab is just poking at the critter
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As it should. A lunge is when you throw your body into it, therefore more power is behind it, a thrust and a jab is just poking at the critter
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>>As it should. A lunge is when you throw your body into it, therefore more power is behind it, a thrust and a jab is just poking at the critter
That is what puncture based weapons do, poke the creature. Lunge is even worse than sweep and is a good way to die in a lot of situations. A way to do consistent damage without opening defenses up entirely is available for all other non-missile weapons.
There is no spear class of weapons. There is no <insert historically accurate or not weapon of choice to be argued about here> class of weapon. There are pike class weapons and halberd class weapons. End of story on pole arms.
Thankfully other people agree that each weapon type should be useful and those people can actually change things.
I am --- Navak
That is what puncture based weapons do, poke the creature. Lunge is even worse than sweep and is a good way to die in a lot of situations. A way to do consistent damage without opening defenses up entirely is available for all other non-missile weapons.
There is no spear class of weapons. There is no <insert historically accurate or not weapon of choice to be argued about here> class of weapon. There are pike class weapons and halberd class weapons. End of story on pole arms.
Thankfully other people agree that each weapon type should be useful and those people can actually change things.
I am --- Navak
<<That is what puncture based weapons do, poke the creature. Lunge is even worse than sweep and is a good way to die in a lot of situations. A way to do consistent damage without opening defenses up entirely is available for all other non-missile weapons.>>
Agreed. Hit and you do mass damage, miss and you're so off balance might as well kiss your butt goodbye. Sweep and chop are the same type of thing.
<<There is no spear class of weapons. There is no <insert historically accurate or not weapon of choice to be argued about here> class of weapon. There are pike class weapons and halberd class weapons. End of story on pole arms.>>
Agreed. Spear was just another name for a type of pole arm. It's not a class weapon.
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Agreed. Hit and you do mass damage, miss and you're so off balance might as well kiss your butt goodbye. Sweep and chop are the same type of thing.
<<There is no spear class of weapons. There is no <insert historically accurate or not weapon of choice to be argued about here> class of weapon. There are pike class weapons and halberd class weapons. End of story on pole arms.>>
Agreed. Spear was just another name for a type of pole arm. It's not a class weapon.
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>A pike is a long weapon generally 10 - 25 ft in length. etc....
True, but Pike weapons are not all pikes. A scimitar is a medium edged weapon, but not all medium edged weapons are scimitars. Seems you are as shortsighted as Veyl and are to preoccupied with one weapon to see anything else in the weapon class.
>Agreed. Hit and you do mass damage, miss and you're so off balance might as well kiss your butt goodbye. Sweep and chop are the same type of thing.
Combos from slicing weapons do not even compare with the dismal setup jabbing weapons now have. You can even skip the 'sweep' maneuver and still be completely effective at killing critters. Take out lunge for jabbing type weapons and they fall flat on their face.
>Mind you, the above is the real use of the weapon. I can't speculate as to what people were thinking when it was designed for DR, other than to say that they most likely didn't know what a pike is
I cant see the forest for all of the trees....
>Agreed. Spear was just another name for a type of pole arm. It's not a class weapon.
Ditto.
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True, but Pike weapons are not all pikes. A scimitar is a medium edged weapon, but not all medium edged weapons are scimitars. Seems you are as shortsighted as Veyl and are to preoccupied with one weapon to see anything else in the weapon class.
>Agreed. Hit and you do mass damage, miss and you're so off balance might as well kiss your butt goodbye. Sweep and chop are the same type of thing.
Combos from slicing weapons do not even compare with the dismal setup jabbing weapons now have. You can even skip the 'sweep' maneuver and still be completely effective at killing critters. Take out lunge for jabbing type weapons and they fall flat on their face.
>Mind you, the above is the real use of the weapon. I can't speculate as to what people were thinking when it was designed for DR, other than to say that they most likely didn't know what a pike is
I cant see the forest for all of the trees....
>Agreed. Spear was just another name for a type of pole arm. It's not a class weapon.
Ditto.
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<<True, but Pike weapons are not all pikes. A scimitar is a medium edged weapon, but not all medium edged weapons are scimitars. Seems you are as shortsighted as Veyl and are to preoccupied with one weapon to see anything else in the weapon class.>>
Actually I'm pretty well versed in the different types of pole arms, since I own a pike, boar spear, halberd, and corsik and I use them. A pike is a weapon in the pole arm class. While a scimitar is a weapon of the medium edge sword class. So in actuality pole weapons are not all pikes, but a pike is a pike.
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Actually I'm pretty well versed in the different types of pole arms, since I own a pike, boar spear, halberd, and corsik and I use them. A pike is a weapon in the pole arm class. While a scimitar is a weapon of the medium edge sword class. So in actuality pole weapons are not all pikes, but a pike is a pike.
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<<Combos from slicing weapons do not even compare with the dismal setup jabbing weapons now have. You can even skip the 'sweep' maneuver and still be completely effective at killing critters. Take out lunge for jabbing type weapons and they fall flat on their face.>>
DR is also providing a weapon for use outside of it's designed purpose. Put a pike against a critter one on one and the critter will always win, provided the critter knows how to fight against a pike.
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DR is also providing a weapon for use outside of it's designed purpose. Put a pike against a critter one on one and the critter will always win, provided the critter knows how to fight against a pike.
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<<That's like saying 'an apple is not an orange, but it's an apple'. Explain?>>
The class of weapon we are discussing is the pole arm. Weapons that fall under this class include but not limited to:
Spear
Corsik
Halberd
Pike
Billhook
Partisan
The statement made earlier about not all pike weapons are pikes is actually incorrect. It's often confused as a class of weapon but is, in fact, a specific weapon in the pole arm family. The definition of a pike is:
<<A pike is a two-handed pole weapon, a very long spear once used extensively by infantry for both attacks on enemy foot and as a counter-measure against cavalry assaults. Pikes were extremely long weapons, carried by infantry and resembling a spear between 10 and 14 feet (3 and 4 meters) long with the longest pikes exceeding 22 feet0. They had a wooden shaft with a steel spearhead affixed.>>
<<The great length of the pike allowed many spearheads to be presented to the enemy and greater reach, but also made it unwieldy in a confused close combat. This meant that pikemen had to be equipped with a sword for the chaos of melee, although pikemen attempted to avoid such disorganized combat, at which they were at a disadvantage. To compound their difficulties in such melee, the pikeman often did not have a shield, or had only a small shield of limited use in a sword duel.>>
So to clarify my earlier statement, a pike is a pole arm, but not all pole arms are pikes.
Sorry for confusing anyone.
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The class of weapon we are discussing is the pole arm. Weapons that fall under this class include but not limited to:
Spear
Corsik
Halberd
Pike
Billhook
Partisan
The statement made earlier about not all pike weapons are pikes is actually incorrect. It's often confused as a class of weapon but is, in fact, a specific weapon in the pole arm family. The definition of a pike is:
<<A pike is a two-handed pole weapon, a very long spear once used extensively by infantry for both attacks on enemy foot and as a counter-measure against cavalry assaults. Pikes were extremely long weapons, carried by infantry and resembling a spear between 10 and 14 feet (3 and 4 meters) long with the longest pikes exceeding 22 feet0. They had a wooden shaft with a steel spearhead affixed.>>
<<The great length of the pike allowed many spearheads to be presented to the enemy and greater reach, but also made it unwieldy in a confused close combat. This meant that pikemen had to be equipped with a sword for the chaos of melee, although pikemen attempted to avoid such disorganized combat, at which they were at a disadvantage. To compound their difficulties in such melee, the pikeman often did not have a shield, or had only a small shield of limited use in a sword duel.>>
So to clarify my earlier statement, a pike is a pole arm, but not all pole arms are pikes.
Sorry for confusing anyone.
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The point is that a 2 foot spear is still a pike in DR and how the pike combo in DR sucks, and is in no way comparable to edged or blunt weapons.
The definition of a katar is:
a type of short punching sword
Guess how much that mitigates the fact that within DR, a katar is a poorly balanced axe stat wise.
Zero.
I am --- Navak
The definition of a katar is:
a type of short punching sword
Guess how much that mitigates the fact that within DR, a katar is a poorly balanced axe stat wise.
Zero.
I am --- Navak
>The statement made earlier about not all pike weapons are pikes is actually incorrect. It's often confused as a class of weapon but is, in fact, a specific weapon in the pole arm family. The definition of a pike is:
Hi. We are talking about the fantasy game, DragonRealms, that has two different pole arm classes: halberd and pike. Within relevance of the aforementioned game, not all pikes are a pike same as not all halberds are halberds. It doesnt get much more simpler than that unless you are looking for "See Pike Run" or "See Pike Walk"
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Hi. We are talking about the fantasy game, DragonRealms, that has two different pole arm classes: halberd and pike. Within relevance of the aforementioned game, not all pikes are a pike same as not all halberds are halberds. It doesnt get much more simpler than that unless you are looking for "See Pike Run" or "See Pike Walk"
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>Hi. We are talking about the fantasy game, DragonRealms, that has two different pole arm classes: halberd and pike. Within relevance of the aforementioned game, not all pikes are a pike same as not all halberds are halberds. It doesnt get much more simpler than that unless you are looking for "See Pike Run" or "See Pike Walk"
I seem to have an inordinant amount of trouble following this thread; but I think you're arguing over semantics.
In DR a pike is a stabbing polearm. Ergo all pikes are pikes. A halberd is a slicing polearm. Ergo all halberds are halbers. A QS if a bash polearm. Ergo all QS are QS.
I seem to have an inordinant amount of trouble following this thread; but I think you're arguing over semantics.
In DR a pike is a stabbing polearm. Ergo all pikes are pikes. A halberd is a slicing polearm. Ergo all halberds are halbers. A QS if a bash polearm. Ergo all QS are QS.
<<Hi. We are talking about the fantasy game, DragonRealms, that has two different pole arm classes: halberd and pike. Within relevance of the aforementioned game, not all pikes are a pike same as not all halberds are halberds. It doesnt get much more simpler than that unless you are looking for "See Pike Run" or "See Pike Walk">>
Even fantasy authors and the like use the weapons appropriately. Artistic liscence isn't appropriate in this application.
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Even fantasy authors and the like use the weapons appropriately. Artistic liscence isn't appropriate in this application.
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<<On a side note anyone else notice spears arnt actualy pole ranged anymore? At least not the ones I appraised after the changes.>>
Really depends on the spear, this fest one happens to be pole ranged:
>app spear
An ox-tongue spear with a stout iron-studded haft is a pike pole-ranged weapon.
You are confident that it could do:
heavy puncture damage
low slice damage
low impact damage
You estimate that the spear is fairly balanced and is fairly suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
Also swappable to QS with heavy impact.
Regards,
Kalkomar Axebiter
Staan Grimis
Really depends on the spear, this fest one happens to be pole ranged:
>app spear
An ox-tongue spear with a stout iron-studded haft is a pike pole-ranged weapon.
You are confident that it could do:
heavy puncture damage
low slice damage
low impact damage
You estimate that the spear is fairly balanced and is fairly suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
Also swappable to QS with heavy impact.
Regards,
Kalkomar Axebiter
Staan Grimis
>Even fantasy authors and the like use the weapons appropriately. Artistic liscence isn't appropriate in this application.
That would be correct if the author was narrow mindedly thinking that the only polearms are european polearms and could only be used in formations..
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That would be correct if the author was narrow mindedly thinking that the only polearms are european polearms and could only be used in formations..
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<<That would be correct if the author was narrow mindedly thinking that the only polearms are european polearms and could only be used in formations..>>
How many medieval fantasy novels have you encountered that had characters using naginatas? I don't think I've ever seen a katana in DR
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How many medieval fantasy novels have you encountered that had characters using naginatas? I don't think I've ever seen a katana in DR
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<<Actually I'm pretty well versed in the different types of pole arms, since I own a pike, boar spear, halberd, and corsik and I use them. A pike is a weapon in the pole arm class. While a scimitar is a weapon of the medium edge sword class. So in actuality pole weapons are not all pikes, but a pike is a pike.>>
I own several CD's, that makes me an expert in music.
Pikes, while a specific type of pole arm were derived in name based on the pointy end of the weapon. That pointy end of the weapon is in fact a 'pike'. As defined in any accepted dictionary, e.g. Merriam-Webster online:
Main Entry: 1pike
Pronunciation: 'pIk
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English pIc pickax
1 : PIKESTAFF 1
2 : a sharp point or spike; also : the tip of a spear
What that means is, in fact, that any weapon using a sharp point or spike affixed to the end can schematically be referred to as a 'pike'.
--Just a "clueless" Lurker
I own several CD's, that makes me an expert in music.
Pikes, while a specific type of pole arm were derived in name based on the pointy end of the weapon. That pointy end of the weapon is in fact a 'pike'. As defined in any accepted dictionary, e.g. Merriam-Webster online:
Main Entry: 1pike
Pronunciation: 'pIk
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English pIc pickax
1 : PIKESTAFF 1
2 : a sharp point or spike; also : the tip of a spear
What that means is, in fact, that any weapon using a sharp point or spike affixed to the end can schematically be referred to as a 'pike'.
--Just a "clueless" Lurker
<<You screwed up there; there're 3 katana in game. 2 for players and 1 for a GM>>
Actually I didn't screw up, I said I've never seen one in DR, not that they didn't exist in DR.
So am I to understand that only 3 katanas exist in the realms?
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Actually I didn't screw up, I said I've never seen one in DR, not that they didn't exist in DR.
So am I to understand that only 3 katanas exist in the realms?
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<<I own several CD's, that makes me an expert in music.>>
Sweet. I can't claim that as I don't collect music. I'm alos no expert in pole arms either, I own them, and I know how to use them, however I never claimed to be an expert with them
<<Pikes, while a specific type of pole arm were derived in name based on the pointy end of the weapon. That pointy end of the weapon is in fact a 'pike'. As defined in any accepted dictionary, e.g. Merriam-Webster online:>>
Here's what I found in the dictionary
pike2 /paIk/ Pronunciation Key - noun, verb, piked, pik‧ing.
?noun 1. a shafted weapon having a pointed head, formerly used by infantry.
?verb (used with object) 2. to pierce, wound, or kill with or as with a pike.
[Origin: 1505?15; < MF pique, fem. var. of pic pick2 < Gmc. See pike5, pique1]
<<What that means is, in fact, that any weapon using a sharp point or spike affixed to the end can schematically be referred to as a 'pike'.>>
As I said, a spear is often referred to as a pike. No offense but I'm really not interested in splitting hairs, kinda takse away from the point of the topic
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Sweet. I can't claim that as I don't collect music. I'm alos no expert in pole arms either, I own them, and I know how to use them, however I never claimed to be an expert with them
<<Pikes, while a specific type of pole arm were derived in name based on the pointy end of the weapon. That pointy end of the weapon is in fact a 'pike'. As defined in any accepted dictionary, e.g. Merriam-Webster online:>>
Here's what I found in the dictionary
pike2 /paIk/ Pronunciation Key - noun, verb, piked, pik‧ing.
?noun 1. a shafted weapon having a pointed head, formerly used by infantry.
?verb (used with object) 2. to pierce, wound, or kill with or as with a pike.
[Origin: 1505?15; < MF pique, fem. var. of pic pick2 < Gmc. See pike5, pique1]
<<What that means is, in fact, that any weapon using a sharp point or spike affixed to the end can schematically be referred to as a 'pike'.>>
As I said, a spear is often referred to as a pike. No offense but I'm really not interested in splitting hairs, kinda takse away from the point of the topic
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