>>I removed it from my typical weapon training a few hours ago. I need to find something better before I train it again, hopefully soon.

How many ranks do you have?

Welcome to the world of Short Staff. It's perhaps the most frustrating weapon to train. My vote for 'worst weapon ever' still goes to Staff Sling, though. Hooray for being EXACTLY THE SAME AS A NORMAL SLING only weighing sixty stones instead of five. And no, you can't parry with it! Yay!

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You are Malkien, a dashing Barbarian. Huzzah!
You are Apis, a legendary Cleric in your own head.
You are Ragesong. What sort of Kaldar is a Bard, anyways, doofus?
You are also Pellazan (WM), Essatariol (Ranger) and running out of sig space.

Might try this
Short Steel Spear in SS mode Fair/Poor/Fair Fairly/Poorly MS 35 stones

Yes you are sacrificing some impact for puncture, but that's not a bad thing in the SS combo. Mod Strong is nice too. Downside is the poor balance, but well try it. This weapon is found in the special merchant To The Teeth, which recently visited the premie sea caves.

~Ranger Hanryu, Sword of House Calibanor
>Scripting is not against policy. Bad scripts make baby Everild cry. ~ Ssra

If you can find the festival version of the barb nightstick, it's better and what I use to train SS.

I am --- Navak

Has a sharkskin-wrapped hilt or something, moderate impact, fairly sturdy.

I am --- Navak

You get an ironwood nightstick studded with tiny steel thorns from inside your somber black haversack.
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>compare pry with night

You are certain that the iron prybar is a little stronger than the ironwood nightstick.
You are certain that the iron prybar is less balanced than the ironwood nightstick.
You are certain that the iron prybar is somewhat less suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength than the ironwood nightstick.
You are certain that the iron prybar does about as much puncture damage as the ironwood nightstick.
You are certain that the iron prybar does about as much slice damage as the ironwood nightstick.
You are certain that the iron prybar does about as much impact damage as the ironwood nightstick.


Iron prybar is definately not the best. Guess its back out to Hara'jaal for me, unless I can find a short steel spear in Theren.


-Master Ndin

Last time I went to crossing for a list of like 5-6 items, it took 3 days to get even 1 item. Im not goin through that again, just a week later. Guess Ill use my nightstick for now, unless I find someone selling one in Theren/Lang or Haven.


-Master Ndin

If you want to train short staff well and easily, use CJs to boost your skill. Also, if you use magic (yourself or of a friend) to calm, sleep, knock down or stun the critter, you get better crits and faster learning. I have done these things and lock SS quickly.

Wulfcat

Yeah, I was hoping for a decent weapon so I could fight with SS like I do with all my other weapons, rather than having to knock things down with magic before swinging.


-Master Ndin

get night
You get an ironwood nightstick with a black sharkskin grip from inside your blood-red pack.


look my night
Faint etchings along the length of the nightstick curl around the steel thorns, as if the weapon had been made by winding a mass of briars together.


app my night

An ironwood nightstick with a black sharkskin grip is a short staff melee-ranged weapon.

You are certain that it could do:
no puncture damage
no slice damage
moderate impact damage

You are certain that the nightstick is fairly balanced and is fairly suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.

You are certain that the ironwood nightstick is fairly sturdy, and is in pristine condition.

The ironwood nightstick is made with metal.
The ironwood nightstick feels pretty light.
You are certain that the ironwood nightstick is worth exactly 35000 lirums.
Roundtime: 8 seconds.

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Gilvore Sneaksie-Sasiknak and others.

"...I am learning the true meaning of tedium. Do you intend to bore me to death with your speeches or do you want to come across here and die?.." - Gotrek Gurnisson

That is the nightstick from the Barb wagon at the last Merelew festival. All of the weapons in there were very similar to the ones in the Barb weapon shop... only better.

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You are Malkien, a dashing Barbarian. Huzzah!
You are Apis, a legendary Cleric in your own head.
You are Ragesong. What sort of Kaldar is a Bard, anyways, doofus?
You are also Pellazan (WM), Essatariol (Ranger) and running out of sig space.

>>Ok, sounds like I need to find one of these then.

Make sure it has a sharkskin grip. The one from the Barb shop looks very similar and I've seen at least one confused (or dishonest) Trader trying to pass it off as the Merelew one for bigger dollars.

>>Have you compared that one to the one from Hara'jaal? Since they are both mod impact, I wonder if there is a vast difference (low-end to high-end), slight difference, or the same. Also, if they are the same, how do the construction's compare?

I have. Unfortunately, I have away my Hara nightstick. I don't remember exactly how they compare. The construction is the same. Suffice to say that after the COMPARE I gave away my Hara one, and that one is now in my vault. It's not leaps and bounds better if you can't find it, but it is better.

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You are Malkien, a dashing Barbarian. Huzzah!
You are Apis, a legendary Cleric in your own head.
You are Ragesong. What sort of Kaldar is a Bard, anyways, doofus?
You are also Pellazan (WM), Essatariol (Ranger) and running out of sig space.