30-50 Stone Quarterstaff? on 02/15/2007 08:54 PM CST
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What's a good high damaging 30-50 stone Quarterstaff weapon? Just sub 40/40 strength and agility so I was hoping to get 1/2/3 or 3/4 RT with it at pole range.


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Re: 30-50 Stone Quarterstaff? on 02/15/2007 11:01 PM CST
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An ox-tongue spear with a stout iron-studded haft (F/L/H, 55 stones when in QS mode)

An eighteen hand glaive with a white witchclaw haft (F/M/H, 60 stones in QS mode)

A partisan with a broad woodgrain-steel blade (F/M/G, 65 stones in QS mode)


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Re: 30-50 Stone Quarterstaff? on 02/16/2007 06:04 AM CST
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That partisan seems the favorite.
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Re: 30-50 Stone Quarterstaff? on 02/16/2007 12:37 PM CST
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Give Whispersoft a shout Leilond, I have a few extra Partisans just cause I love it so much. ANd I owe ya for turning me on to the TM thing ;-)

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Re: 30-50 Stone Quarterstaff? on 02/16/2007 01:44 PM CST
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That partisan... is 65 stones. I'm going to have to pass on that, at least until I get something ridiculous like 45 strength. Thanks, though.


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Re: 30-50 Stone Quarterstaff? on 02/16/2007 02:18 PM CST
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>That partisan... is 65 stones. I'm going to have to pass on that, at least until I get something ridiculous like 45 strength. Thanks, though.

The weight is excessive, but the majority of players are not using QS as a main weapon, because by and large it sucks compared to other weapons. So, if you're just using it to lock the skill, I'd still recommend the partisan. If you're goin with a QS primary low-moderate circle character, then it won't be good for you. Otherwise, get it, you'll grow into it.
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Re: 30-50 Stone Quarterstaff? on 02/16/2007 05:53 PM CST
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a lightened bo stick30/35(?) stonesno/no/mod/fairly/fairlypole, one-handed
a bo stick40 stonesno/no/mod/fairly/fairlypole, one-handed
a leaf-blade spear with an oaken haft45 stoneslow/poor/heavy/fairly/fairlypole, swaps to pike
(various)50 stonesno/no/heavy/fairly/fairlypole

* Can't remember the exact weight of the lightened bo stick, and don't have one handy to check.
* I specified 'pole' up there because you can find some qs's which are only usable at melee range. Bleh.
* The 'various' indicates I have many with this particular template, but I don't recall where they're from. Some I'm sure are from random traveling merchants, but some may be from like the Cleric shop backroom and the like.
* You can find the occasional 50-stone qs with great impact, such as 'a steel-banded walnut staff with a fire-blackened finish' and 'a steel-capped ironwood quarter staff carved with multiple cambrinth-inlaid symbols'.

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Re: 30-50 Stone Quarterstaff? on 02/17/2007 09:58 AM CST
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The lightened bow stick is a very nice choice for a shop one. However, it's really light. Personally I'd still go with one of the Fest swappables until I had the strength for the partisan.


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Re: 30-50 Stone Quarterstaff? on 02/17/2007 04:19 PM CST
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Come to Plat, Lei, and you can get in on such wonderful staves as this:

A twisting oak quarter staff capped with a copper raccoon
low/none/great reasonable/reasonable fairly sturdy 40 stones





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Re: 30-50 Stone Quarterstaff? on 02/17/2007 04:32 PM CST
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>Come to Plat, Lei, and you can get in on such wonderful staves as this:

Provided you are there when the proper merchant comes around. No, I'm not bitter.
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Re: 30-50 Stone Quarterstaff? on 02/17/2007 05:07 PM CST
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>>low/none/great reasonable/reasonable fairly sturdy 40 stones

Heh, that's more or less what I was looking for, like exactly. Seriously, you must have pulled those stats from my mind. It's a sad shame that beautiful weapon doesn't exist in Prime.

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Re: 30-50 Stone Quarterstaff? on 02/20/2007 01:44 PM CST
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It's a shame lots of those weapons don't exist in prime, especially the ones that make something like darts not suck so much.

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Re: 30-50 Stone Quarterstaff? on 02/20/2007 04:35 PM CST
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Question,

Is it possible to have an average strength quarterstaff break by just swinging/attacking rather than parrying? I know parrying is a major reason why weapons break, but what about attacking? Is that pretty rare? I ask b/c my favorite quarterstaff is pretty weak construct sadly, but I don't use parry so should I be ok with attacks?


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Re: 30-50 Stone Quarterstaff? on 02/20/2007 04:56 PM CST
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>>Is it possible to have an average strength quarterstaff break by just swinging/attacking rather than parrying? I know parrying is a major reason why weapons break, but what about attacking? Is that pretty rare? I ask b/c my favorite quarterstaff is pretty weak construct sadly, but I don't use parry so should I be ok with attacks?

Using an old carved cane?

Depends. Some creatures with particularly thick hides or shields might tear the QS up a bit. Not parrying will definitely help though. I wouldn't say your staff is in any danger of snapping without prior notice, but I'd sort of keep an eye on it regardless. It should be fine.


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You are Apis, a legendary Cleric in your own head.
You are Ragesong. What sort of Kaldar is a Bard, anyways, doofus?
You are also Pellazan (WM), Essatariol (Ranger) and running out of sig space.
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Re: 30-50 Stone Quarterstaff? on 02/20/2007 05:32 PM CST
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>>Is it possible to have an average strength quarterstaff break by just swinging/attacking rather than parrying?

If you're fighting something with a tough hide (gargoyles, et al.) yes, it's possible to get damaged that way. I've found that with skill in QS, the weapon doesn't get damaged as much.

As to the construction of the weapon... I think that is more of an indication of how much damage a weapon can take, rather than how hard it is to hurt. HP rather than AC, in D&D terms. I could be wrong on this, but I'm pretty sure I heard a GM say it at one point. Can't find a post, though; may have been at a con. Anyway... if that's correct, then an 'average' weapon can be damaged just as easily as one that is 'flimsy,' it's just that the flimsy weapon will be completely destroyed much sooner.

If you're still getting QS's damaged a lot, use a bo stick. VERY cheap, one-handed, and strikes from pole range. Use it until it's destroyed, or when you're done fighting throw it at a repair shop for like two coppers. I used Randals as a storage for a spare bo stick, back in the day... would swap my damaged bo for the repaired one after each hunting trip.

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Re: 30-50 Stone Quarterstaff? on 02/20/2007 08:58 PM CST
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>As to the construction of the weapon... I think that is more of an indication of how much damage a weapon can take, rather than how hard it is to hurt. HP rather than AC, in D&D terms. I could be wrong on this, but I'm pretty sure I heard a GM say it at one point. Can't find a post, though; may have been at a con. Anyway... if that's correct, then an 'average' weapon can be damaged just as easily as one that is 'flimsy,' it's just that the flimsy weapon will be completely destroyed much sooner.

Not true. There is a certain threshold in item damage that needs to be crossed for any damage to take place. With good enough construction, a weapon can literally take no damage under normal circumstances.
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Re: 30-50 Stone Quarterstaff? on 02/21/2007 02:45 PM CST
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That is how hardness works. You have a hardness rating and then an HP rating. You have to do enough damage to beat the hardness and then the leftover damage subtracts from the item's HP.

From how I understand things, a quarterstaff has the same HP as that super duper kertig greatsword, but due to hardness differences the kertig greatsword is very unlikely to ever be damaged.

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