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Plat != Prime
This is smooth. Super smooth. If pudding could doodie, it wouldn't come out this smooth.
Creative GMs can bypass global caps.
Instead of saying that a spell boosts evasion by 100 ranks (global cap for example purpose) you can just say that it hinders all incoming attacks by 200 ranks. No need to conform to cap for penalty. This is in place in a few abilities. I.e. BMR, aether cloak, etc.
Nitsh,
You think it's bad that 202 LX can nail my 467 effective evasion using a certain khri? Did you miss the posts that a DB spit with 665 TM can't hit 125 evasion using a certain MM spell? That's even more skewed.
I don't want this to be guild versus gui;d. Basically, the concept of global caps is great. It keeps things fair. But there are certainly ways around the caps. Without us being GMs, its hard to say the exact rules.
And while I'm at it, compounding boosts is silly too. You shouldnt be able to stack an LX CJ, a certain single shot khri, see the wind, and tailwind. Let's say 200 base LX. 300 with CJ. 400 at least with STW. 550 with certain khri (and likely agility). Maybe 600 with Tail wind. Add in offense > defense with bows, an agility figurine, a cheetah agility spell thing, and a full aim, you're spanking 1000 evasion with your 200 LX.
Global caps, heh. The numbers in this post are just plain silly...
Instead of saying that a spell boosts evasion by 100 ranks (global cap for example purpose) you can just say that it hinders all incoming attacks by 200 ranks. No need to conform to cap for penalty. This is in place in a few abilities. I.e. BMR, aether cloak, etc.
Nitsh,
You think it's bad that 202 LX can nail my 467 effective evasion using a certain khri? Did you miss the posts that a DB spit with 665 TM can't hit 125 evasion using a certain MM spell? That's even more skewed.
I don't want this to be guild versus gui;d. Basically, the concept of global caps is great. It keeps things fair. But there are certainly ways around the caps. Without us being GMs, its hard to say the exact rules.
And while I'm at it, compounding boosts is silly too. You shouldnt be able to stack an LX CJ, a certain single shot khri, see the wind, and tailwind. Let's say 200 base LX. 300 with CJ. 400 at least with STW. 550 with certain khri (and likely agility). Maybe 600 with Tail wind. Add in offense > defense with bows, an agility figurine, a cheetah agility spell thing, and a full aim, you're spanking 1000 evasion with your 200 LX.
Global caps, heh. The numbers in this post are just plain silly...
>Nitsh,
>You think it's bad that 202 LX can nail my 467 effective evasion using a certain khri? Did you miss the posts that a DB spit with 665 TM can't hit 125 evasion using a certain MM spell? That's even more skewed.
Actually, you're wrong. They can hit someone with 125 Evasion with 665 TM while the targeted person has Shear up. The problem is that DB isn't powerful enough to break through the Shear spell. It's a question of Spell Power vs. Spell Power.
In General it's the same thing as me not being able to kill someone who is able to hide from me. Person A has 500 hiding and 200 evasion. Person B has 200 perception and 500 TM. Person A hides and negates Person B's 500 TM ranks. With this situation Person A uses Hiding to overcome their lack of Evasion. In your Shear example the Moon Mage uses their Magic Ranks and gives up their use of Psychic Projection in order to overcome their lack of Evasion ranks.
>Without us being GMs, its hard to say the exact rules.
Exactly. But we can point out things that seem unbalanced and have the GMs take a look at it. Sometimes the issue is because someone didn't implement the ability or spell properly and there are bugs which make the ability very different than it was meant to be. GMs are Human and sometimes make mistakes.
-Nitish
"You cut my foot off!"
"I apologize; I meant to cut off your head."
>You think it's bad that 202 LX can nail my 467 effective evasion using a certain khri? Did you miss the posts that a DB spit with 665 TM can't hit 125 evasion using a certain MM spell? That's even more skewed.
Actually, you're wrong. They can hit someone with 125 Evasion with 665 TM while the targeted person has Shear up. The problem is that DB isn't powerful enough to break through the Shear spell. It's a question of Spell Power vs. Spell Power.
In General it's the same thing as me not being able to kill someone who is able to hide from me. Person A has 500 hiding and 200 evasion. Person B has 200 perception and 500 TM. Person A hides and negates Person B's 500 TM ranks. With this situation Person A uses Hiding to overcome their lack of Evasion. In your Shear example the Moon Mage uses their Magic Ranks and gives up their use of Psychic Projection in order to overcome their lack of Evasion ranks.
>Without us being GMs, its hard to say the exact rules.
Exactly. But we can point out things that seem unbalanced and have the GMs take a look at it. Sometimes the issue is because someone didn't implement the ability or spell properly and there are bugs which make the ability very different than it was meant to be. GMs are Human and sometimes make mistakes.
-Nitish
"You cut my foot off!"
"I apologize; I meant to cut off your head."
Does Naarg 1-shot from hiding? And is he a member of a guild that can "Snipe"? If this is the case, if he had say, 200 bow, and capped buffs of the following, SUF, SW, Seers, SOP, and sniped you from hiding, I would expect him to 1-hit 70-80% of those that wasn't perceptive enough to not see him snipe you, through my knowledge of backstab/snipe characteristics and/or mechanics.
It is oddly reminisant of me getting 1-hit backstabed by a person using heavy puncture sabre [med edge] and having somewhat more than 200 ranks LESS weapons, than I did, evasion, but, since i did not see that person, SPLAT. Global Caps are one thing, but ability mechanics might be the topic you should be arguing about. And in saying that, I believe that arguing that will be quite the losing battle.
~Mibe
It is oddly reminisant of me getting 1-hit backstabed by a person using heavy puncture sabre [med edge] and having somewhat more than 200 ranks LESS weapons, than I did, evasion, but, since i did not see that person, SPLAT. Global Caps are one thing, but ability mechanics might be the topic you should be arguing about. And in saying that, I believe that arguing that will be quite the losing battle.
~Mibe
>>Why is everyone assuming Naarg has to go by any caps at all?
Probably because Solomon has already pronmised to slap down any GM-run character that breaks the rules, like having a thief-based character casting spells, or a mage of one guild casting spells from a different guild.
Besides, if a GM has to break the rules to make their event work, then they should sit back and decide if their event really needs to be run, or if there is a "legal" way to do it. Deus ex machina isn't an interesting thing, really.
~Kyn (Kynevon)
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Probably because Solomon has already pronmised to slap down any GM-run character that breaks the rules, like having a thief-based character casting spells, or a mage of one guild casting spells from a different guild.
Besides, if a GM has to break the rules to make their event work, then they should sit back and decide if their event really needs to be run, or if there is a "legal" way to do it. Deus ex machina isn't an interesting thing, really.
~Kyn (Kynevon)
Info Page http://kynevon.info
Mac OS X FE http://tinyurl.com/9xjyj
Amagaim's What to Hunt Chart
Excel format: http://tinyurl.com/44jlt
HTML format: http://tinyurl.com/6tpls
<<Probably because Solomon has already pronmised to slap down any GM-run character that breaks the rules, like having a thief-based character casting spells, or a mage of one guild casting spells from a different guild.
Or an ex-ranger character being able to 'smell' who the owner of a familiar is?
Trebber
Or an ex-ranger character being able to 'smell' who the owner of a familiar is?
Trebber
Sure. Because smelling an aethereal spirit which manifests on the physical plane and has been known to use the elemental planes as shortcuts to get from place to place on the physical plane is really going to get you anywhere.
Orpheus: "You've been powering this machine with a forsaken child?"
Venture: "What? It's not like I used the whole thing."
Orpheus: "You've been powering this machine with a forsaken child?"
Venture: "What? It's not like I used the whole thing."
Would be kind of like when two dogs meet, they circle around... smelling each other. THAT is an ability for you.
~Deuce~
~Elec
You hear the distant echo of a savage Horde snarling in barbaric disapproval of your deeds.
"Even In Your Darkest, Most Hellish Nightmares You Are Safe. But In Reality, Night Always Falls, And There In The Shadows, I Wait."
~Deuce~
~Elec
You hear the distant echo of a savage Horde snarling in barbaric disapproval of your deeds.
"Even In Your Darkest, Most Hellish Nightmares You Are Safe. But In Reality, Night Always Falls, And There In The Shadows, I Wait."
