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so it would be safe to say go ahead and pick up shield use, keep using a ME as primary, but when i use LB or HX use a shield(all three are about the same), and tho you dont get the shield benefit while your aiming if you engage to melee while hiding then fire, your then at melee and open for attack. and can then use the defense of the shield? right? You cant parry with a longbow atleast i dont think so, and i def wouldnt want to risk breaking it. So does that sound on target? And can rangers learn shield use enough to where it has no hinderance just like leather?
>>so it would be safe to say go ahead and pick up shield use, keep using a ME as primary, but when i use LB or HX use a shield(all three are about the same), and tho you dont get the shield benefit while your aiming if you engage to melee while hiding then fire, your then at melee and open for attack. and can then use the defense of the shield? right?
Correct. Once you have fired, and come out of hiding, you will be able to shield block until you start aiming again.
>>You cant parry with a longbow atleast i dont think so, and i def wouldnt want to risk breaking it.
You can try parrying with a bow, but it doesn't do a very good job, and is extremely prone to taking damage. So I would use a stance of 100% evasion, and 80% shield in this kind of situation.
>>So does that sound on target?
Yes.
>>And can rangers learn shield use enough to where it has no hinderance just like leather?
Probably not. Depends on the original hindrance of the shield, just for starters. And there will always be some minimal hindrance left, no matter how many ranks you train the skill up to.
My main character is a Warrior Mage, Armor tertiary, 96 ranks of Shield, and he has reduced the hindrance of his arm-worn target shield low enough that it doesn't bump him up a level of hindrance in any of the sets of armor I have had him wear, including a full 5 armor set.
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Correct. Once you have fired, and come out of hiding, you will be able to shield block until you start aiming again.
>>You cant parry with a longbow atleast i dont think so, and i def wouldnt want to risk breaking it.
You can try parrying with a bow, but it doesn't do a very good job, and is extremely prone to taking damage. So I would use a stance of 100% evasion, and 80% shield in this kind of situation.
>>So does that sound on target?
Yes.
>>And can rangers learn shield use enough to where it has no hinderance just like leather?
Probably not. Depends on the original hindrance of the shield, just for starters. And there will always be some minimal hindrance left, no matter how many ranks you train the skill up to.
My main character is a Warrior Mage, Armor tertiary, 96 ranks of Shield, and he has reduced the hindrance of his arm-worn target shield low enough that it doesn't bump him up a level of hindrance in any of the sets of armor I have had him wear, including a full 5 armor set.
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>>>>And can rangers learn shield use enough to where it has no hinderance just like leather?
>>Probably not. Depends on the original hindrance of the shield, just for starters. And there will always be some minimal hindrance left, no matter how many ranks you train the skill up to.
>>My main character is a Warrior Mage, Armor tertiary, 96 ranks of Shield, and he has reduced the hindrance of his arm-worn target shield low enough that it doesn't bump him up a level of hindrance in any of the sets of armor I have had him wear, including a full 5 armor set.
FYI, Shield hinderance is worked off via chest armor ranks, additionally, worn shields don't show thier hinderance while worn, only when on the arm. That said, depending on the shield, the hinderance can be worked down do a pretty low point, not sure if its 'unhindered' except with the smallest of shields, but it gets close.
Samsaren Remlane
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>>Probably not. Depends on the original hindrance of the shield, just for starters. And there will always be some minimal hindrance left, no matter how many ranks you train the skill up to.
>>My main character is a Warrior Mage, Armor tertiary, 96 ranks of Shield, and he has reduced the hindrance of his arm-worn target shield low enough that it doesn't bump him up a level of hindrance in any of the sets of armor I have had him wear, including a full 5 armor set.
FYI, Shield hinderance is worked off via chest armor ranks, additionally, worn shields don't show thier hinderance while worn, only when on the arm. That said, depending on the shield, the hinderance can be worked down do a pretty low point, not sure if its 'unhindered' except with the smallest of shields, but it gets close.
Samsaren Remlane
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man, target practice on the other hand, is another matter entirely.
>>FYI, Shield hinderance is worked off via chest armor ranks, additionally, worn shields don't show thier hinderance while worn, only when on the arm. That said, depending on the shield, the hinderance can be worked down do a pretty low point, not sure if its 'unhindered' except with the smallest of shields, but it gets close.
1) Regarding the chest-worn armor, I have to say I am unsure of that, since I am currently wearing a mixed set of armor, with leather as my chest armor (with only 56 ranks) and I still don't get any change in my overall hindrance when my arm-worn shield is on my arm or in my backpack. YMMV.
2) "Unhindered" is not no hindrance, it is actually a range. Which is why even a single armor-type set, with all pieces appraiseable as offering no hindrance can still leave the overall hindrance at insignificant or higher.
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1) Regarding the chest-worn armor, I have to say I am unsure of that, since I am currently wearing a mixed set of armor, with leather as my chest armor (with only 56 ranks) and I still don't get any change in my overall hindrance when my arm-worn shield is on my arm or in my backpack. YMMV.
2) "Unhindered" is not no hindrance, it is actually a range. Which is why even a single armor-type set, with all pieces appraiseable as offering no hindrance can still leave the overall hindrance at insignificant or higher.
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Read the whole post :) Arm worn shields don't show thier hinderance when worn on the arm, so you wouldn't be able to tell. Find two chest pieces of armor with the same hinderance(using forged helps), one that you have enough ranks to have no hinderance(60-80) and another you've a large number of ranks in(250+) and app the armors again holding a tower shield in your left hand and you'll see what I mean about chest armor ranks being the determiner for hinderance.
Samsaren Remlane
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man, target practice on the other hand, is another matter entirely.
Samsaren Remlane
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man, target practice on the other hand, is another matter entirely.
>>Arm worn shields don't show thier hinderance when worn on the arm
Now that I didn't know, but now that I've checked, it is pretty obvious...
P>app leath
If you were only maneuvering in some dark hunting leathers you would be unhindered.
But considering all the armor and shields you are wearing or carrying, you are currently unhindered.
>get shie from pack
You get a steel-banded ironwood oval shield from inside your armor pack.
>swap
You move a steel-banded ironwood oval shield to your left hand.
>app leath
If you were only maneuvering in some dark hunting leathers you would be unhindered.
But considering all the armor and shields you are wearing or carrying, you are currently insignificantly hindered.
>wear shie
You slide your left arm through the straps on your oval shield and flex, gaining a feel for the shield's weight.
>app leath
If you were only maneuvering in some dark hunting leathers you would be unhindered.
But considering all the armor and shields you are wearing or carrying, you are currently unhindered.
Auroch clamps his fist around your forearm and hauls you over for a merciless Barbarian greeting. Stifling a grimace, you wonder if you'll ever wield a weapon again.
Now that I didn't know, but now that I've checked, it is pretty obvious...
P>app leath
If you were only maneuvering in some dark hunting leathers you would be unhindered.
But considering all the armor and shields you are wearing or carrying, you are currently unhindered.
>get shie from pack
You get a steel-banded ironwood oval shield from inside your armor pack.
>swap
You move a steel-banded ironwood oval shield to your left hand.
>app leath
If you were only maneuvering in some dark hunting leathers you would be unhindered.
But considering all the armor and shields you are wearing or carrying, you are currently insignificantly hindered.
>wear shie
You slide your left arm through the straps on your oval shield and flex, gaining a feel for the shield's weight.
>app leath
If you were only maneuvering in some dark hunting leathers you would be unhindered.
But considering all the armor and shields you are wearing or carrying, you are currently unhindered.
Auroch clamps his fist around your forearm and hauls you over for a merciless Barbarian greeting. Stifling a grimace, you wonder if you'll ever wield a weapon again.
So the only way to check total hinderance is by removing the arm worn shield and holding it in the hand? Dang.. here I thought I was at insig the whole time, and turns out I am at fairly :grumbles a lot:
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If I recall correctly, its because the appraisal code was a nightmare or something, there was a post on it a good while back, but I'll be darned if I can remember the details.
Samsaren Remlane
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man, target practice on the other hand, is another matter entirely.
Samsaren Remlane
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man, target practice on the other hand, is another matter entirely.
