Fest bastard sword appraisal on 07/20/2005 11:30 AM CDT
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I was wondering if anyone bought one of the bastard swords from the outcast tent and could post the 2HE appraisal and weight. I know the 98 plat one appraises the same as my 36 stone forged one in HE. So if the 2HE appraisal is the same I was going to buy one. Thanks for any help on this.
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Re: Fest bastard sword appraisal on 07/20/2005 11:42 AM CDT
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Swappable weapons Increase from HE to THE as a fixed number. If two basties are identical in every respect in HE, barring extremely tiny variances due to rounding, they'll be the same in THE, too




The only girl I've ever loved
Was born with roses in her eyes
But then they buried her alive
One evening 1945
With just her sister at her side
And only weeks before the guns
All came and rained on everyone
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Re: Fest bastard sword appraisal on 07/20/2005 01:39 PM CDT
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Anyone happen to ocheck out the basties in the barrel on the barge?

Can't appraise them because they are inside something (pretty poor design guys), but damn they are pretty...

--Just a "clueless" Squire

Now I lay me down to sleep;
I pray Solomon my soul to keep.
If I should walk before I wake;
I pray that Simutronics a restore will make.
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Re: Fest bastard sword appraisal on 07/21/2005 07:11 PM CDT
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I am also very curious about the weight on those swords. If anyone could post the weight it would be extremely helpful! I don't really have access to forged blades in Plat so the chance at a better than storebought is rare. I am just worried its going to be really heavy or something.
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Re: Fest bastard sword appraisal on 07/21/2005 07:46 PM CDT
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I picked up the engraved bastard sword from the outcast tent. It weighs 40 stones
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Re: Fest bastard sword appraisal on 07/21/2005 11:01 PM CDT
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40's not a bad number but has anyon else bought the one with poor impact bet its around 28 stones or less


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Re: Fest bastard sword appraisal on 07/22/2005 08:09 AM CDT
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Pretty sure the other one is 30.
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Re: Fest bastard sword appraisal on 07/22/2005 01:02 PM CDT
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I "took the plunge" and bought the tempered steel bastard sword.



>tap my swo
You tap a tempered steel bastard sword hilted with a carved-ivory lion's paw that you are holding.
>put swo on count
You put your bastard sword on the counter.

Twelvetoes hefts the bastard sword and puts it on the medium balance scale. He patiently adds small sacks of stones on the other side till the beam becomes exactly level.

Twelvetoes squints at the balance beam needle and says, "The sword weighs about thirty stones," and puts the sword on the counter.

You pay Twelvetoes and take your sword off the counter.



So some other people have said that you can't get forged quality weapons at fests, but this seems like a pretty good sword, no? Admittedly I am in plat and I don't have access to forged weapons (some exist, but no forgers are currently in the game to create new weapons that I know of).
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Re: Fest bastard sword appraisal on 07/22/2005 03:38 PM CDT
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>So some other people have said that you can't get forged quality weapons at fests, but this seems like a pretty good sword, no? Admittedly I am in plat and I don't have access to forged weapons (some exist, but no forgers are currently in the game to create new weapons that I know of).

Hey hadn't thought of that. If there are no active plat forgers, then these are all really badass for you guys, because they all have almost capped forged stats. Even their construction matches up with the kind of forged blade they resemble, like the 30 stone fest bastie, it's only fairly sturdy and has bad impact, like light high carbon forged ones (28 stone g/s slice basties).

The heavy slice scim sold there resembles a 36ish stone forged scim ground to f/r. The lighter fest scim looks like a 18ish stone forged scim. The heavier bastie resembles a.. well I want to say a 36 stone g/s bastie, but actually it's slightly worse in appraisal, so I guess it does resemble a 40 stone one more (which I believe is the weight of the fest one). The katar resembles a standard heavy forged one.

Dragoonseal
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Re: Fest bastard sword appraisal on 07/22/2005 03:41 PM CDT
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That's actually a good thought. I'd forgotten about plat. Garnted, there is, or was (not sure if Bakan is still there or not) a forger that could make good ME and HE weapons, but I dont know if he ever did anything like the mod slice katar that's selling at the fest. Also, I imagine that the heavy slice scimitar selling there would be a great weapon for someing in plat too.

~J


"Have you ever felt like the world was a tuxedo, and you were a pair of brown shoes?"
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Re: Fest bastard sword appraisal on 07/22/2005 03:47 PM CDT
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>>So some other people have said that you can't get forged quality weapons at fests, but this seems like a pretty good sword, no?


>l on stand
On the weapon stand you see an ivory-hilted claymore with drooping quillions and polished steel quatrefoils, an ivory-hilted claymore with drooping quillions and polished brass quatrefoils, an ivory-hilted claymore with drooping quillions and polished silver quatrefoils, an iron-hilted claymore with a viperskin wrapped grip, a blued steel claymore with a serrated blade and an iron-spiked pommel, an etched-steel flamberge with clenched fist pommel and an acid-etched two-handed sword with quillions shaped like writhing serpents.
>wie my sword
You draw out your jade green sword from the greatsword sheath.
>comp my sword to two-hand sword on stand
You are certain that the jade green sword is about as strong as the two-handed sword.
You are certain that the jade green sword is about as balanced as the two-handed sword.
You are certain that the jade green sword is about as suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength as the two-handed sword.
You are certain that the jade green sword does about as much puncture damage as the two-handed sword.
You are certain that the jade green sword does about as much slice damage as the two-handed sword.
You are certain that the jade green sword does about as much impact damage as the two-handed sword.
You estimate that the jade green sword weighs a lot more than the two-handed sword.
[Roundtime: 8 seconds]
R>l my sword
Impressed into the metal is the image of a dragon coiled around an anvil within a ring of tiny lettering reading, "Thaiger Diluger Poshly."
R>shea
You sheathe the jade green sword in your greatsword sheath.
>wie my great
You draw out your greatsword from the greatsword sheath.
>comp my great to two-hand sword
You are certain that the greatsword is a little stronger than the two-handed sword.
You are certain that the greatsword is somewhat less balanced than the two-handed sword.
You are certain that the greatsword is a little more suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength than the two-handed sword.
You are certain that the greatsword does about as much puncture damage as the two-handed sword.
You are certain that the greatsword does somewhat more slice damage than the two-handed sword.
You are certain that the greatsword does about as much impact damage as the two-handed sword.
You believe that the greatsword weighs about the same as the two-handed sword.
[Roundtime: 8 seconds]
R>l my great
Impressed into the metal is the image of a raven hovering over an anvil and holding a hammer and tongs in its claws.
>comp my great to clay
You are certain that the greatsword is a little stronger than the ivory-hilted claymore.
You are certain that the greatsword is a little more balanced than the ivory-hilted claymore.
You are certain that the greatsword is about as suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength as the ivory-hilted claymore.
You are certain that the greatsword does about as much puncture damage as the ivory-hilted claymore.
You are certain that the greatsword does a little more slice damage than the ivory-hilted claymore.
You are certain that the greatsword does about as much impact damage as the ivory-hilted claymore.
You are confident that the greatsword weighs quite a bit more than the ivory-hilted claymore.
[Roundtime: 8 seconds]



Auroch clamps his fist around your forearm and hauls you over for a merciless Barbarian greeting. Stifling a grimace, you wonder if you'll ever wield a weapon again.
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Re: Fest bastard sword appraisal on 07/22/2005 03:51 PM CDT
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That doesn't tell us much Barbarous, what are those weapons weights and appraisals?

Dragoonseal
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Re: Fest bastard sword appraisal on 07/22/2005 04:37 PM CDT
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Actually, the one scimitar there is better than forged, in that, it is identical in all stats except better construction ;)

--Just a "clueless" Squire

Now I lay me down to sleep;
I pray Solomon my soul to keep.
If I should walk before I wake;
I pray that Simutronics a restore will make.
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Re: Fest bastard sword appraisal on 07/22/2005 05:58 PM CDT
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>Actually, the one scimitar there is better than forged, in that, it is identical in all stats except better construction ;)

How so? I only recall that heavy slice scim being fairly sturdy. Forged 36(ish) stone ones start off moderately strong and drop down to fairly sturdy after grinding them to f/r. Maybe you're thinking of the craptacular forged 26 stone ones? The fest one isn't modeled after those.

Dragoonseal
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Re: Fest bastard sword appraisal on 07/22/2005 06:39 PM CDT
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<<How so? I only recall that heavy slice scim being fairly sturdy. Forged 36(ish) stone ones start off moderately strong and drop down to fairly sturdy after grinding them to f/r. Maybe you're thinking of the craptacular forged 26 stone ones? The fest one isn't modeled after those.>>

A compare with my 36 stone scim.

>comp my scim with scim
You are certain that the silver-hilted scimitar is a little weaker than the engraved scimitar.

You are certain that the silver-hilted scimitar is about as balanced as the engraved scimitar.

You are certain that the silver-hilted scimitar is about as suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength as the engraved scimitar.

You are certain that the silver-hilted scimitar does about as much puncture damage as the engraved scimitar.

You are certain that the silver-hilted scimitar does about as much slice damage as the engraved scimitar.

You are certain that the silver-hilted scimitar does about as much impact damage as the engraved scimitar.

You think it is likely that the silver-hilted scimitar weighs about the same as the engraved scimitar.
[Roundtime: 8 seconds]

--Just a "clueless" Squire

Now I lay me down to sleep;
I pray Solomon my soul to keep.
If I should walk before I wake;
I pray that Simutronics a restore will make.
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Re: Fest bastard sword appraisal on 07/22/2005 06:50 PM CDT
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>A compare with my 36 stone scim.

>comp my scim with scim
>You are certain that the silver-hilted scimitar is a little weaker than the engraved scimitar.

Ah, gotcha, 36 stones is the very heaviest you can go and still be able to grind them to fairly balanced, it takes every balance grind so it hurts construction the most. The fest one is probably based off of a lighter weight, anywhere from 31 to 34 stones or so, so it takes less balance grinds to hit f/r.

But that's just my educated guess.

Dragoonseal
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Re: Fest bastard sword appraisal on 07/22/2005 10:35 PM CDT
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>That's actually a good thought. I'd forgotten about plat. Garnted, there is, or was (not sure if Bakan is still there or not) a forger that could make good ME and HE weapons, but I dont know if he ever did anything like the mod slice katar that's selling at the fest. Also, I imagine that the heavy slice scimitar selling there would be a great weapon for someing in plat too.

>~J

Currently Bakan and Togmun, our best forgers, do not play. I do have a bastard sword and scimitar made by Bakan, in the 30 - 40 stone ranges, and I compared them. They were exactly the same.


~Kuren
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Re: Fest bastard sword appraisal on 07/29/2005 04:49 AM CDT
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So, out of the two outcast bastard swords...

The heavier one has better stats... right? I'm too lazy to log in and check. If you're at minimum rt with both types, the engraved one would be the best way to go.




-P

"The forces that affect our lives, the influences that mold and shape us, are often like whispers in a distant room, teasingly indistinct, apprehended only with difficulty." - C.D.
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Re: Fest bastard sword appraisal on 07/29/2005 05:01 AM CDT
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> So, out of the two outcast bastard swords...

> The heavier one has better stats... right? I'm too lazy to log in and check. If you're at minimum rt with both types, the engraved one would be the best way to go.

The lighter one might have a tiny bit more balance, but otherwise yes, the heavier one has equal or better puncture, slice, impact, and suited, as well as much better construction.

Dragoonseal
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Re: Fest bastard sword appraisal on 08/07/2005 09:31 PM CDT
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how bout those verby fest claymores?


Sentai.
The O.G.
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Re: Fest bastard sword appraisal on 08/07/2005 10:54 PM CDT
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Pretty sure they were average storebought quality, but don't remember... just recall not being impressed and spending all my coin in the Outcast tent. I do like my verby katar though, regardless of its crappiness ;)

Ristyl
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Re: Fest bastard sword appraisal on 08/08/2005 10:51 AM CDT
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>>Ristyl>>I do like my verby katar though, regardless of its crappiness ;)

Would you mind posting the verbs? I was looking at that but went with the Outcast katar instead. Thanks in advance.

~Thilan
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Re: Fest bastard sword appraisal on 08/08/2005 12:11 PM CDT
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Hmm... can't recall off the top of my head, and it's in a vault a province away ;)

Has some nice ones so... I remember point in particular, makes you hold it out and stare down the length of the blade, or something of that nature. If you're in shard, there's a sign in the tent that shows all the verbs.

Ristyl
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Re: Fest bastard sword appraisal on 08/08/2005 12:43 PM CDT
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You draw your swept-bladed katar back and raise it towards your face, twisting your wrist so the sharp edge of the blade falls directly beneath your crystal blue gaze.

You drum your fingertips along the blade of your swept-bladed katar, and yawn.

Dropping down on one knee, you bow your head and place the flat of the swept-bladed katar's blade against your forehead in a reverent gesture.

You raise your arm and gaze down its outstretched length, your stare following the deadly point of your swept-bladed katar.

Your grip tightens on the parallel cross-bars of your swept-bladed katar as your lips twitch downward into a slight frown.

You run a careful finger along the length of your swept-bladed katar's blade as you glance around the area with a dispassionate gaze.

You turn in a dangerous circle, your arm's length extended by the wicked blade of your swept-bladed katar as it slices through the air.

PULL, TAP, BOW, POINT, GRAB, TOUCH, and TURN respectively.

Gryck
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Re: Fest bastard sword appraisal on 08/08/2005 04:45 PM CDT
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one of the Festival clay's from the turquoise tent of Flargo's:

You get a blued steel claymore with a serrated blade and an iron-spiked pommel from inside your claymore sheath.
>appr clay
A blued steel claymore with a serrated blade and an iron-spiked pommel is a two-handed edged melee-ranged weapon.

You are certain that it could do:
fair puncture damage
severe slice damage
heavy impact damage

You are certain that the claymore is dismally balanced and is well suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.

You are certain that the steel claymore is well constructed, and is in pristine condition.

The steel claymore is made with metal.
You wonder if the steel claymore might weigh several tens of stones.
You are certain that the steel claymore is worth exactly 13530 dokoras.
Roundtime: 8 seconds.
R>wave clay
You swing your steel claymore over your head in a murderous arc.
>clench clay
You grip the hilt of your steel claymore, ready to do battle.
>lean clay
You set the point of your steel claymore into the ground at your feet and casually lean on it.
>push clay
You brandish your steel claymore in front of you, trying to look menacing.
>pull clay
You lower the tip of the massive blade to the ground, giving your arms a rest.

Rehlyn


Some thoughtful soul has marked the surface of the lock with a drawing of several very happy looking stick figures.
A tasia corsair says, "Well I was hoping to wait for a cleric first but if you watch my stuff I'll depart. Thanks."
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Re: Fest bastard sword appraisal on 08/08/2005 06:29 PM CDT
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On the subject of verby weapons be sure to get the blued-steel sabre in wormtongues tent, that thing has a whole bunch of really great verbs. It's a little pricey at 14 plat but it seems to be the only weapon in his store with verbs and they are really worth the coin. Plus it's mod puncture and fairly strong so it's better then most other non-forged sabres you see floating around.
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Re: Fest bastard sword appraisal on 08/08/2005 06:39 PM CDT
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>>Plus it's mod puncture and fairly strong so it's better then most other non-forged sabres you see floating around.

It's the same as most of the non-forged sabres... and it's worse than the one in the shop right there in Shard. I would have picked up the sabre if they had made it at least as good as the one a few blocks away.

-Wighten
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Re: Fest bastard sword appraisal on 08/08/2005 08:05 PM CDT
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Hmm my mistake then, Its worth the coin to me just for the oddity and verbs of it. For some reason was thinking store sabres were fair puncture and flimsy.
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