Evasion: 192
Multi: 134
Parry: 156
Leather: 169
Weapon: 192

Any suggestions? My multi needs work. I do need to get a few ranks in my secondary weapon which is way behind at 96 as well.

Thanks.

L.S.

I have a few ranks in shield, but it's not really a priority. Vipers don't teach me very well, and black leucros stopped teaching evasion awhile ago, unless I have more than two engaged... which I can't do because of my low multi.

Thanks,
L.S.

Yeah... any idea where?

Thanks,
L.S.

>>Yeah... any idea where?

Vela'tohr bloodvines will actually fill up those gaps pretty well, plus they train multi extremely well.

As for shield...now's probably the time to catch it up. Tertiary or not, not training shield is probably the single biggest mistake you can make in DR.

>>not training shield is probably the single biggest mistake you can make in DR.


not training shield is probably the single biggest mistake you can make in DR right now since the new combat hasn't been finished and released that GM Dart is working on.


fixed that for you

Jim

>>Regardless of new combat or otherwise, I imagine there will still be critters that shield is more effective against, like spitting vipers, and ranged using critters. Train it.

Same could be said for those that are hard training shield and not anything else. Multi critters I could see using/needing a shield if they are all ranged, but one? Evasion I would think would be the better offset. Same with weapon using critters, in a multi situation at melee, You'd be better off parrying than using a shield, since a shield is more hindering in that situation, you'll never get a swing off, you'd be to busy blocking 2-4 at a time. You'd be to busy hiding behind that shield and concentrating on not being hit. So parry would be the better way to go since you can keep sight of everyone in melee range, and swing with the weapon your parrying with in time with each parry. Which I would believe is where the weapon combo's should fall into play with.

But thats me.

Jim

Is that conclusion based on a red-name post or just your opinion?


~Jalich

What makes you think you can't train all three defenses at the same time?

What I made reference to was the post saying that Shield was the end all Defense, I pointed out, it might be now, but not once the re-write was done. Yeesh...



Jim

>>You're thinking of Evasion.

Not as of today. Shield is the end all to everything. Which is why I'm glad that the combat re-write is going on. And will be done "soonish".


Jim

>>DR will still be a multiple defense game. One defense alone won't cut it. Parry won't be as good against ranged so shield and evasion will still be better.



So what was that about shield?



Jim

>>Not as of today. Shield is the end all to everything.

Wrong. Instead of tossing out your opinion like it is fact, you should probably familiarize yourself with how given systems work.

>>DR will still be a multiple defense game. One defense alone won't cut it. Parry won't be as good against ranged so shield and evasion will still be better.


yes, but at the same time, telling everyone that shield is the only way to go, is incorrect once the rewrite goes into effect. At the moment, I will agree, shield is king. But not for long.


Jim

>>Exactly. Train all 3. Some people elect NOT to train shield which is silly. Regardless of where shield falls in your skillsets, (primary, secondary, or tertiary) it's extremely easy to train all 3 defenses at the same level at the same time. If one defense is good, then 3 is better. Always.


Which is what my point was.


Jim

Any point you were trying to make was lost in your incoherent jabber about how shield is King (it's not, even under the current system) and about how it won't be King in new combat.

Actually in a lot of situations it feels like Shield > Evasion, but that's only because Evasion takes a lot of the heat off from attacks before it even gets to Shield. Without Evasion, Shield would be no good.

I'm gonna have to agree with Hiding > Evasion > Shield > Parry currently.

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