Viper poison is broken. 100% unhuntable. on 01/21/2013 07:16 PM CST
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Vipers are completely and utterly broken.

I just sat during a 15 minute poison duration, stunned for 95% of the time. During the 5% of the time I was casting Siphon Vitality, for 10-20% vitality.
Unfortunately, when I tried healing the EYE WOUNDS, they would instantly become worse.

I was siphoning for a good 5-6 minutes hoping the poison would leave so I could heal the eye wounds. No dice.

This is where it started:

Your body feels slightly battered.
Your spirit feels full of life.
You have some minor swelling and bruising around the right eye, a severely swollen and bruised left eye, complete paralysis of the entire body.
You have a critically strong nerve poison.
You are under the influence of a stunning poison.
You're stunned!

This is where it ended.

Your body feels at death's door!
Your spirit feels full of life.
You are on the verge of complete exhaustion.
You have some minor abrasions to the right arm, some minor abrasions to the chest, a severely swollen, bruised and blind right eye, a severely swollen, bruised and blind left eye, complete paralysis of the entire body.

Bleeding
Area Rate


inside r. eye death awaits
inside l. eye death awaits
You have a dangerously strong nerve poison.
You are under the influence of a stunning poison.
You feel like you're dying!


This is what I did for 5+ minutes waiting for the poison to stop.


SP> cast
target sv

!SP>
You are still stunned.
!SP>
You are still stunned.
!SP> cast
target sv
You are still stunned.
!SP>
You are still stunned.
!SP>
A hostile scavenger goblin decays away.

!SP> cast
target sv

With a slight flick, you point one of your fingers at a scavenger goblin.
Leaping from your finger, an oozing tendril of reddish-black energy snakes towards the scavenger goblin!
The tendril latches onto the scavenger goblin's chest!
Writhing feelers of reddish-black energy lash all across its chest, everywhere they touch visibly aging and tearing as the life is artificially sucked out of the scavenger goblin.

Part of the life force your spell stole transmits back along the tendril, replenishing you!
The scavenger goblin is dealt a vicious stun!

Roundtime: 1 sec.

You don't have a spell prepared!
!P>
Since you're not feeding enough power into the spell pattern to make it coherent, you quickly work your way to the minimum required.
You trace an angular sigil in the air, shaping the pattern of the Siphon Vitality spell.
You begin to weave mana lines into a target pattern around a scavenger goblin.

!P>
The scavenger goblin moves into a position to parry.
!P>
A large musk hog hisses viciously and lunges at you!
* Apparently without direction or thought, a large musk hog claws, swiping with its hooves at you. You block solidly with a lumium target shield.
[You're very badly hurt, extremely imbalanced with opponent in excellent position.]
!P>
The scavenger goblin moves into a position to parry.
!P>
The scavenger goblin moves into a position to parry.
!P>
A sudden wave of dizzyness overtakes you.
You are stunned!

!SP>
You feel a terrible pain in your nerves, as if every bit was on fire!
!SP>
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Re: Viper poison is broken. 100% unhuntable. on 01/21/2013 10:20 PM CST
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vipers are doable, check your stances <personally when i'm in there i use either 82% evasion /100 shield, or 100 evasion, 82 shield> and make sure you use a shield. I was in vipers earlier today with my trader. <primeside>. you'll need about 100ish shield ranks or so to block viper spit.

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Re: Viper poison is broken. 100% unhuntable. on 01/21/2013 11:44 PM CST
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>> vipers are doable, check your stances <personally when i'm in there i use either 82% evasion /100 shield, or 100 evasion, 82 shield> and make sure you use a shield. I was in vipers earlier today with my trader. <primeside>. you'll need about 100ish shield ranks or so to block viper spit.

That is bizarrely wrong. I can handle 4 vipers, I can LAY ON THE GROUND and handle 4 vipers. I can be perm stunned for 10 minutes and 4 vipers cannot touch me. Yet 2 acid spits cause me to be stunned for 15 minutes with no hope of survival.

I have 179 evasion, 155 shield. I've tried hunting with a 30 mana PHP, and a 10 mana instinct. I've used stance 100 0 100, the poison can still hit me. Even if its 1 out of 100 hits.

I don't even care if the poison hits me, but an automatical death with 10+ minutes of stun is ridiculous. The attack itself isn't bad, its the ridiculously overpowered poison attack. I mean, I couldn't even survive using siphon health for 5 minutes waiting for the poison to wear off. I must have expended at least 500% of my normal HP.

I've tried hunting them for a full day now, I've gotten hit by the poison at least 10 times. I've tried various tactics, using BLOCK, etc. There is nothing I can do.
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Re: Viper poison is broken. 100% unhuntable. on 01/22/2013 12:28 AM CST
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seems odd then. because with 169 shield, 169 evasion, my trader was doing just fine in leucro/viper area past the deadfall.




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Re: Viper poison is broken. 100% unhuntable. on 01/22/2013 12:41 AM CST
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>>There is nothing I can do.

There is obviously something Not Right, but couldn't you hunt something else? Why put yourself through so much strife?!

I wonder if changes to HP/Stamina are making this an issue?

GENT
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Re: Viper poison is broken. 100% unhuntable. on 01/22/2013 03:03 AM CST
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>> There is obviously something Not Right, but couldn't you hunt something else? Why put yourself through so much strife?!

>> I wonder if changes to HP/Stamina are making this an issue?

Oh trust me, I got the hell out of there after my last experience. I thought Melete had fixed the issue. I actually moved to a harder area, learning a lot better, strangely enough. I was just explaining to "gonif" that it wasn't player error.
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Re: Viper poison is broken. 100% unhuntable. ::THREAD OVER:: on 01/22/2013 04:52 PM CST
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This thread is over.

I passed the concern regarding vipers on to the appropriate people.


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Re: Viper poison is broken. 100% unhuntable. ::THREAD OVER:: on 01/23/2013 03:05 AM CST
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This is not an invitation to continue the tangents that derailed the other thread.

However! I have toned down the viper poison a bit. My previous change was not to vipers but to the stunning poison itself, to stop it from ever chain stunning you without a break in the stun. Now I have capped the strength of the poison that vipers can spit and made them a bit more intelligent about when they choose to do that.

Melete
Here as he walked by
On the 3rd month of Lirisa the Archer
In the year of the Iron Toad
A nameless Dwarf
In a flash of genius discovered
The fundamental formula for
THE BEARD INTEGER
& cut it on a stone of this bridge
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