New/recent problems with SF on 01/11/2006 10:36 AM CST
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I'll be playing along.

The game won't be down.

SF will just FREEZE up on me.

Can't bug in game, because it's completely frozen, as in completely disconnected from the game.

The program hasn't froze, but my connection just drops.

is this an anti afk scripting thing or just a temporary bug?
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Re: New/recent problems with SF on 01/11/2006 03:27 PM CST
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Sounds like a connection related problem. Are you on wireless? Does it ever recover? Or is it giving you a message saying you've been disconnected?


Myke
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Re: New/recent problems with SF on 01/13/2006 05:57 AM CST
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On a totally different note, something happened with my stormfront. I got a message (don't remember the exact) after the launcher ran saying that one of the skins failed to initialize properly, and to make sure I had it installed. It was a critical error. What's odd about this, I had deleted several things on my computer, but logged in after I did that, but sometime between then and then, I was unable to log in usinng SF. I went ahead and reinstalled it, and it worked out fine, I thought it was just a bit strange.
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Re: New/recent problems with SF on 01/13/2006 08:13 PM CST
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<<one of the skins failed to initialize properly, and to make sure I had it installed>>

I sometimes get the "skin failed to initialize" error - go to your task manager and make sure that you don't have StormFront running. Sometimes, it doesn't exit all the way, and it can create buginess. I use Win98se, and I'm forever having trouble with StormFront. Make too many highlights, or some other random things, and I get a "Window's key[] error" or something like that which scrolls the screen and crashes SF. I have to ctrl+alt+delete to end the program which is "not responding" make sure it has completely exited out and then log back in with a fresh StormFront.


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Re: New/recent problems with SF on 01/13/2006 10:59 PM CST
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There was a recent issue with Norton AV marking a dll file used by the active skin module as possible spy/adware, and deleting it.
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Re: New/recent problems with SF on 01/14/2006 03:40 AM CST
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<SF will just FREEZE up on me.>

same thing happens to me in avalon. when i think its frozen, i look up above my monitor on the shelf and usually see the cable modem trying to resynch itself. when i dont, it's just about to drop out before trying to resynch. them cable modem synched lights dont work too well. i'd say the same thing couuld happen with dsl and other modems. when it comes back, everything happens at once.


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Re: New/recent problems with SF on 01/14/2006 02:05 PM CST
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Nope. No messages, no game crashes, Can IM directly, and I'm still on dialup. Remember Dialup? 28.8 without an excuse.
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Re: New/recent problems with SF on 01/15/2006 03:09 PM CST
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< Remember Dialup? 28.8 without an excuse.>

that fast? here's what you need to do, it'll actually double or triple your dl speeds
edit the comm document for that modem you're using and set it up to respond dte speed not dce speed (dte is data terminal equipment,, your computer. dce is data communications equipment, analog modem connection rate) and set it up for 115200 or 230400 dte speed. it'll respond it's connected at 115200 or 230400 and wont reduce speed to match dce speed. the modems will handle any compression needed.

i used to run online at 300 bps (not 300kbps, just 300bps), acoustic telephone connection speed. the kind used in the movie wargames. and you think dtmf (touch tone) is fast dialing? try upping the dial pulse as fast as it'll go and still break dial tone, i had mine dialing much faster than an autodialer can dial numbers. 7 numbers in one second...


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Re: New/recent problems with SF on 01/15/2006 03:30 PM CST
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<<set it up to respond dte speed not dce speed (dte is data terminal equipment,, your computer. dce is data communications equipment, analog modem connection rate) and set it up for 115200 or 230400 dte speed. it'll respond it's connected at 115200 or 230400 and wont reduce speed to match dce speed. the modems will handle any compression needed.>>

How exactly do you expect a POTS phone line to transfer that much information that quickly? Your modem can respond at 115k or 230k (or 128k or 256k), sure. But there's only a certain amount of data that can be crammed onto such a narrow pipe.

My suggestion... DSL packages are getting down around $15/month now. It's totally worth it.




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Re: New/recent problems with SF on 01/15/2006 09:09 PM CST
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DTE would be fine, except a few things.

It really only works if both comms run the same way(yes i used 300Bps once too, still have the phone lying round at ma's house.)

The phone line in this area is from when it was first installed, several decades ago.

DSL would be a nice option. Want to shell out the 3mil to get said telephone lines upgraded in my nowheresville backwater county?

Cable will be the way I go, shortly, but still If I change ISPs I get 42.2 constantly and 56k occasionally, but that's between me and my isp.

Which I ocassionally get 28.8 and mostly 32.2 without any good reasons.
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Re: New/recent problems with SF on 01/17/2006 02:57 AM CST
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<How exactly do you expect a POTS phone line to transfer that much information that quickly?>

nyquist says the symbol transfer rate is still less than half the telephone bandwidth but they add more types of symbols (different phase, different amplitude, different frequency) to compensate for the lack of bandwidth. on a noisy pots line and a 33.6 modem, i was getting 230,400 bits per second transfer rate instead of the stated 33,600 bits per second. it's all a matter of selecting the correct modem. all distant ends communicate with their modems at high rates but their modems can slow down the analog section which will slow down the comm lines. when your modem returns the dce speed, it resets the rs232 speed to that speed and gives you a limit of that speed no matter what. if you tell the modem to return the dte (rs232) speed instead of the telephone line speed, you'll be communicating at the fastest rate possible.


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Re: New/recent problems with SF on 01/19/2006 11:59 AM CST
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SO I'm in the same bind .. DSL doesn't reach me, can't get cable out here, I live in a velley so can't get line of sight to a wireless ISP to set THAT up, and Sattelite has too much lag to play DR with. My computer is fast and modem as fast as you can get but the ancient phone lines here won't let me hit a faster speed than 26400, and I've tried every dial-up provider available (finally settled on AOL, scary that its the most reliable out here, eh?).

So does changing that setting on the modem help even in this case? I am just wanting to double check, because I too, am getting the SF freezes, I have just learned to deal with them, annoying as it is. I just don't want to change something and mess up everything, and not being that great with computers, it could be bad....

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Re: New/recent problems with SF on 01/19/2006 12:17 PM CST
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satellite ISP if you want to go for broke.



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Re: New/recent problems with SF on 01/19/2006 01:05 PM CST
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You could actually try a slower connection speed to see if its more stable.


Myke
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Re: New/recent problems with SF on 01/19/2006 03:29 PM CST
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To be perfectly honest, DR doesn't require a heck of a lot of client bandwidth. You should be okay even slower than that (as Myke suggested) as long as you're not running anything else over the connection.

You could also try playing with the Wizard rather than with StormFront. Not only would it--obviously--fix the problem of StormFront locking up, but reams of additional XML data are sent to the client when you're using SF that aren't sent when you're using the Wizard. It'd mean less data going from Simu's servers to your client, which means you'll get better performance at low modem speeds.

Since DSL and cable aren't options and you've expressed reservations about satellite... You MIGHT want to check with your cellphone company, if you have one. If there are cell towers in your area, they can be used under current-generation technology to provide Internet connections that are significantly faster than dialup. Not quite DSL speed, but it would at the very least be faster than what you've got. You'd have to ask them, though, how to set your computer up with the right equipment.




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Re: New/recent problems with SF on 01/19/2006 05:39 PM CST
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>>>Not quite DSL speed, but it would at the very least be faster than what you've got.

I used to work with a guy that had Verizon Mobile Internet for his laptop. Fairly good service, even in the outlying portions of the area, and fast enough that he could play WoW on it, at the same framerate as he was getting on his landline. And it worked just as well when we were running around the city doing our jobs, too. All it required was the correct type of cable for his phone, which connected to the serial port, and some fairly basic connectivity software. If I recall correctly, he paid US$44.95 per month.

As for satellite, I wouldn't be too fond of it. There is a definate latency issue involved, with a minimum of 1.5 sec lag time for each command. Not too good for when you're in a combat situation, I wouldn't think.

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Re: New/recent problems with SF on 01/21/2006 04:02 AM CST
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<So does changing that setting on the modem help even in this case?>

just keep a cap on your modem speed, dont allow it to automatically change speeds in mid transmission, have it report dte speed, enable modem hardware compression.


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