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Tested this out with meditate fill command.
From full IF pool took aprox. 20 mins to auto decay all the way to passive IF pool level. This seems way too fast to me at least. The gain rate is slow already adding in such a fast decay speed makes the gain rate seem twice as bad. Or maybe its just that gaining IF is so hard because what you do gain goes away faster then you can get it up to a level enough to actualy use an ability like a berserk just to keep a form or 2 runing.
But maybe I'm wrong.. I guess I assumed at the high 70s level I'd be able to use 3 forms and a meditate with the occsional berserk. At 100 I thought you could use 4 forms, a meditate or 2 and a berserk? As now I have trouble using 2 forms and a meditate and cant get enough IF to berserk in combat. I can use 3 forms just fine but pretty much nothing else but maybe a meditate. And I might need to hunt harder stuff. As is I don't actualy need any abilities to fight and survive just fine where I am.. but I feel I learn so fast and the money is good and I like the location so why move?
What would people suggest for 420s in weapons 380s in defs? I currently love adult and mature gryphons in rossmans area. No one is ever there, tons of them, great money, learn very fast.. haven't died in ages though I do get some wounds and easy access to other areas with friends and backtraining/lore/survival training etc near. I'll try out something like giants and see if I can even hit them.
>>But maybe I'm wrong.. I guess I assumed at the high 70s level I'd be able to use 3 forms and a meditate with the occsional berserk.
You are wrong. 3 forms in combat is pretty much the cap for you. If you fill up your IF ahead of time, throwing in a meditation OR berserk should be possible.
IF passively drains down to the 1/3rd (or whatever limit you have depending on the # of forms you have up) limit quickly if you have not killed anything in the last few minutes. It drains down very very slowly if you have.
What abilities are you using? An Expert ability uses 5x the IF as an Intro ability if you lack the IF to properly handle it.
"I have no data yet. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories instead of theories to suit facts."
- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sherlock Holmes
You are wrong. 3 forms in combat is pretty much the cap for you. If you fill up your IF ahead of time, throwing in a meditation OR berserk should be possible.
IF passively drains down to the 1/3rd (or whatever limit you have depending on the # of forms you have up) limit quickly if you have not killed anything in the last few minutes. It drains down very very slowly if you have.
What abilities are you using? An Expert ability uses 5x the IF as an Intro ability if you lack the IF to properly handle it.
"I have no data yet. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories instead of theories to suit facts."
- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sherlock Holmes
>>I guess I assumed at the high 70s level I'd be able to use 3 forms and a meditate with the occasional berserk. At 100 I thought you could use 4 forms, a meditate or 2 and a berserk?
Since he said I could, here is a section of info regarding durations that Kodius dropped on us in plat from his own testing:
Circle 50:
2 forms out of combat for 5 minutes, 3 forms out of combat for 2 minutes
2 forms in combat forever, 3 forms in combat for 4 minutes
Circle 100:
1 form out of combat forever, 3 forms out of combat for 6 minutes
3 forms in combat forever, 4 forms in combat for 12 minutes+
If you keep in mind that Berserks require more IF than Forms, it kind of explains what you are seeing.
~The Prydaen~
Since he said I could, here is a section of info regarding durations that Kodius dropped on us in plat from his own testing:
Circle 50:
2 forms out of combat for 5 minutes, 3 forms out of combat for 2 minutes
2 forms in combat forever, 3 forms in combat for 4 minutes
Circle 100:
1 form out of combat forever, 3 forms out of combat for 6 minutes
3 forms in combat forever, 4 forms in combat for 12 minutes+
If you keep in mind that Berserks require more IF than Forms, it kind of explains what you are seeing.
~The Prydaen~
>>>>But maybe I'm wrong.. I guess I assumed at the high 70s level I'd be able to use 3 forms and a meditate with the occsional berserk.
You are wrong. 3 forms in combat is pretty much the cap for you. If you fill up your IF ahead of time, throwing in a meditation OR berserk should be possible.
IF passively drains down to the 1/3rd (or whatever limit you have depending on the # of forms you have up) limit quickly if you have not killed anything in the last few minutes. It drains down very very slowly if you have.
What abilities are you using? An Expert ability uses 5x the IF as an Intro ability if you lack the IF to properly handle it.<<
Ahh thanks for the info! Yea I was using at least 2 of the more advanced forms and had no idea that expert abilitys used more IF then intro but that makes sense of course. And yea testing out I could raise my IF pool high enough use 3 forms and a meditation/berserk or 2 meditations and a berserk to really burn it down from full to near empty fast. I'll have to rechoose abilities I think good thing we can for now.
Just have to get used to all the changes but I do like things overall. I hope that unlearning will stay live for a while after lanuch while everyone gets used to stuff.
You are wrong. 3 forms in combat is pretty much the cap for you. If you fill up your IF ahead of time, throwing in a meditation OR berserk should be possible.
IF passively drains down to the 1/3rd (or whatever limit you have depending on the # of forms you have up) limit quickly if you have not killed anything in the last few minutes. It drains down very very slowly if you have.
What abilities are you using? An Expert ability uses 5x the IF as an Intro ability if you lack the IF to properly handle it.<<
Ahh thanks for the info! Yea I was using at least 2 of the more advanced forms and had no idea that expert abilitys used more IF then intro but that makes sense of course. And yea testing out I could raise my IF pool high enough use 3 forms and a meditation/berserk or 2 meditations and a berserk to really burn it down from full to near empty fast. I'll have to rechoose abilities I think good thing we can for now.
Just have to get used to all the changes but I do like things overall. I hope that unlearning will stay live for a while after lanuch while everyone gets used to stuff.
