Previous Thread
Expand All
Collapse All
Ignore Author
Reply
You should notice some Arcana experience when FOCUSing on a runestone. It starts to peter out after 50 ranks or so, but it should be enough to help people learn some low-level Arcana. Additionally, if you FOCUS on a runestone with a cross-realm spell, you'll learn some Sorcery at a somewhat slower rate (since the thing you're mainly doing is engaging with Arcana).
There are some experience timers on this related to the spell on the runestone. They're not super long, though.
--
"The ninety and nine are with dreams, content but the hope of the world made new, is the hundredth man who is grimly bent on making those dreams come true." -E.A.P.
Might want to look at Sorcery learning rates. Arcana might be affecting it. 2 focuses on different runes (not sure on your timers yet if its focus in general or per item) and it only moved to dabbling with 0 Sorcery skill.
>get el run
You get a colorful elbaite runestone from inside your spellbook case.
>foc rune
You focus your magical senses on a colorful elbaite runestone.
Though not actively magical, the runestone is made out of a material that resists the flow of mana. Tiny tunnels and furrows are present in the runestone, which form the shape of a spell pattern.
You recognize the pattern of the Instinct spell.
You should get three more spells out of the runestone before it wears out.
Roundtime: 2 sec.
R>exp
Circle: 99
Showing all skills with field experience.
SKILL: Rank/Percent towards next rank/Amount learning/Mindstate Fraction
Lunar Magic: 549 30% dabbling (1/34) Augmentation: 494 23% perusing (2/34)
Sorcery: 0 00% dabbling (1/34)
Total Ranks Displayed: 1043
Time Development Points: 302 Favors: 3 Deaths: 22 Departs: 5
Overall state of mind: clear
EXP HELP for more information
>put rune in case
You tuck a colorful elbaite runestone into the runestone compartment of your spellbook case.
>get ask rune
You get a dark asketine runestone from inside your spellbook case.
>foc rune
You focus your magical senses on a dark asketine runestone.
Though not actively magical, the runestone is made out of a material that resists the flow of mana. Tiny tunnels and furrows are present in the runestone, which form the shape of a spell pattern.
You recognize the pattern of the Compost spell.
You should get two more spells out of the runestone before it wears out.
Roundtime: 2 sec.
R>exp
Circle: 99
Showing all skills with field experience.
SKILL: Rank/Percent towards next rank/Amount learning/Mindstate Fraction
Lunar Magic: 549 30% dabbling (1/34) Augmentation: 494 23% perusing (2/34)
Total Ranks Displayed: 1043
Time Development Points: 302 Favors: 3 Deaths: 22 Departs: 5
Overall state of mind: clear
EXP HELP for more information
>foc rune
You focus your magical senses on a dark asketine runestone.
Though not actively magical, the runestone is made out of a material that resists the flow of mana. Tiny tunnels and furrows are present in the runestone, which form the shape of a spell pattern.
You recognize the pattern of the Compost spell.
You should get two more spells out of the runestone before it wears out.
Roundtime: 2 sec.
~Tezirite Renzar Lorrani
"Power is merely a stepping stone to more power."
>get el run
You get a colorful elbaite runestone from inside your spellbook case.
>foc rune
You focus your magical senses on a colorful elbaite runestone.
Though not actively magical, the runestone is made out of a material that resists the flow of mana. Tiny tunnels and furrows are present in the runestone, which form the shape of a spell pattern.
You recognize the pattern of the Instinct spell.
You should get three more spells out of the runestone before it wears out.
Roundtime: 2 sec.
R>exp
Circle: 99
Showing all skills with field experience.
SKILL: Rank/Percent towards next rank/Amount learning/Mindstate Fraction
Lunar Magic: 549 30% dabbling (1/34) Augmentation: 494 23% perusing (2/34)
Sorcery: 0 00% dabbling (1/34)
Total Ranks Displayed: 1043
Time Development Points: 302 Favors: 3 Deaths: 22 Departs: 5
Overall state of mind: clear
EXP HELP for more information
>put rune in case
You tuck a colorful elbaite runestone into the runestone compartment of your spellbook case.
>get ask rune
You get a dark asketine runestone from inside your spellbook case.
>foc rune
You focus your magical senses on a dark asketine runestone.
Though not actively magical, the runestone is made out of a material that resists the flow of mana. Tiny tunnels and furrows are present in the runestone, which form the shape of a spell pattern.
You recognize the pattern of the Compost spell.
You should get two more spells out of the runestone before it wears out.
Roundtime: 2 sec.
R>exp
Circle: 99
Showing all skills with field experience.
SKILL: Rank/Percent towards next rank/Amount learning/Mindstate Fraction
Lunar Magic: 549 30% dabbling (1/34) Augmentation: 494 23% perusing (2/34)
Total Ranks Displayed: 1043
Time Development Points: 302 Favors: 3 Deaths: 22 Departs: 5
Overall state of mind: clear
EXP HELP for more information
>foc rune
You focus your magical senses on a dark asketine runestone.
Though not actively magical, the runestone is made out of a material that resists the flow of mana. Tiny tunnels and furrows are present in the runestone, which form the shape of a spell pattern.
You recognize the pattern of the Compost spell.
You should get two more spells out of the runestone before it wears out.
Roundtime: 2 sec.
~Tezirite Renzar Lorrani
"Power is merely a stepping stone to more power."
I also do have a request though Im not sure how possible it is. As I was told in Test last night runestones now come in two flavors... complex type that you can modify the prep mana and simple that you can not. I also found out the hard way that no off mana simple runes can be cast with 0 or low sorcery. This seems... kinda off to me. I would think that the complex would be the harder to use. So my request is if its possible to make simple runes prep spells very very low so that they can be used in sorcery training. Mine were all prepping at 23-25 which is certain backfire and no learning. I think Id rather see it so that with simple runes you should harness mana to up the amount you want rather than simply not be able to use them.
Once the learning rates on the focus part get looked at I may change tunes but for now I see this as an issue. Outside of teaching classes it seems very tough to learn Sorcery. Even a simple spell like GG only got me to maybe 3/34 or 4/34 in about 10 casts and then it blew my arms off 2 or 3 times. Im actually fine with the arm blown risk but it would be nice to make it a bit more worth it skill training wise. Keep in mind these were min prep since I was backfiring really easy due to 0-8 Sorcery ranks.
~Tezirite Renzar Lorrani
"Power is merely a stepping stone to more power."
Once the learning rates on the focus part get looked at I may change tunes but for now I see this as an issue. Outside of teaching classes it seems very tough to learn Sorcery. Even a simple spell like GG only got me to maybe 3/34 or 4/34 in about 10 casts and then it blew my arms off 2 or 3 times. Im actually fine with the arm blown risk but it would be nice to make it a bit more worth it skill training wise. Keep in mind these were min prep since I was backfiring really easy due to 0-8 Sorcery ranks.
~Tezirite Renzar Lorrani
"Power is merely a stepping stone to more power."
Sorry I had posted during my testing. I ended up testing 4 runes asketine, elbaite, calavarite, and sraeth. I got Sorcery skill to move twice over the course of multiple focuses. I tried all of them in a row first. That was where my mini log was from. It got Sorcery to show up in my field exp window on the Sraeth and the Calavarite focuses. I then waited several minutes during which I would grab a random rune and focus it but I never again got Sorcery to move. Im about to hop back in and check again though.
~Tezirite Renzar Lorrani
"Power is merely a stepping stone to more power."
~Tezirite Renzar Lorrani
"Power is merely a stepping stone to more power."
Heres a bit better log of it. 5 runes cycled through. I only ever learn anything on the calavarite (Arc Light) rune. I cant figure out the timer since I only get Sorcery to move randomly. I tried cycling through them all repeatedly and it only moved the once... I then waited till I got the IDLE message and cycled again... still nothing. Then I just started rapid focusing on the calavarite (about 15 times or so) and I got another dabbling but then I didnt get any other movement. I can only get that mindstate 1/34. I cant get Sorcery to move again off runes before it pulses.
>foc rune
You focus your magical senses on a dark asketine runestone.
Though not actively magical, the runestone is made out of a material that resists the flow of mana. Tiny tunnels and furrows are present in the runestone, which form the shape of a spell pattern.
You recognize the pattern of the Compost spell.
You should get two more spells out of the runestone before it wears out.
Roundtime: 2 sec.
R>
>put rune in case
You tuck a dark asketine runestone into the runestone compartment of your spellbook case.
>get el run
You get a colorful elbaite runestone from inside your spellbook case.
>foc rune
You focus your magical senses on a colorful elbaite runestone.
Though not actively magical, the runestone is made out of a material that resists the flow of mana. Tiny tunnels and furrows are present in the runestone, which form the shape of a spell pattern.
You recognize the pattern of the Instinct spell.
You should get three more spells out of the runestone before it wears out.
Roundtime: 2 sec.
R>put rune in case
You tuck a colorful elbaite runestone into the runestone compartment of your spellbook case.
>get cala run
You get a shining calavarite runestone from inside your spellbook case.
>foc rune
You focus your magical senses on a shining calavarite runestone.
Though not actively magical, the runestone is made out of a material that resists the flow of mana. Tiny tunnels and furrows are present in the runestone, which form the shape of a spell pattern.
You recognize the pattern of the Arc Light spell.
You should get five more spells out of the runestone before it wears out.
Roundtime: 2 sec.
R>put rune in case
You tuck a shining calavarite runestone into the runestone compartment of your spellbook case.
>get sra rune
You get a dark silver sraeth runestone from inside your spellbook case.
>foc rune
You focus your magical senses on a dark silver sraeth runestone.
Though not actively magical, the runestone is made out of a material that resists the flow of mana. Tiny tunnels and furrows are present in the runestone, which form the shape of a spell pattern.
You recognize the pattern of the Soul Bonding spell.
You should get five more spells out of the runestone before it wears out.
Roundtime: 2 sec.
R>put rune in case
You tuck a dark silver sraeth runestone into the runestone compartment of your spellbook case.
>get imn run
You get a sky-blue imnera runestone from inside your spellbook case.
>foc rune
You focus your magical senses on a sky-blue imnera runestone.
Though not actively magical, the runestone is made out of a material that resists the flow of mana. Tiny tunnels and furrows are present in the runestone, which form the shape of a spell pattern.
You recognize the pattern of the Zephyr spell.
You should get three more spells out of the runestone before it wears out.
Roundtime: 2 sec.
R>put rune in case
You tuck a sky-blue imnera runestone into the runestone compartment of your spellbook case.
>exp
Circle: 99
Showing all skills with field experience.
SKILL: Rank/Percent towards next rank/Amount learning/Mindstate Fraction
Sorcery: 0 12% dabbling (1/34)
No skills have field experience or none meet your criteria!
Total Ranks Displayed: 0
Time Development Points: 302 Favors: 3 Deaths: 22 Departs: 5
Overall state of mind: clear
EXP HELP for more information
~Tezirite Renzar Lorrani
"Power is merely a stepping stone to more power."
>foc rune
You focus your magical senses on a dark asketine runestone.
Though not actively magical, the runestone is made out of a material that resists the flow of mana. Tiny tunnels and furrows are present in the runestone, which form the shape of a spell pattern.
You recognize the pattern of the Compost spell.
You should get two more spells out of the runestone before it wears out.
Roundtime: 2 sec.
R>
>put rune in case
You tuck a dark asketine runestone into the runestone compartment of your spellbook case.
>get el run
You get a colorful elbaite runestone from inside your spellbook case.
>foc rune
You focus your magical senses on a colorful elbaite runestone.
Though not actively magical, the runestone is made out of a material that resists the flow of mana. Tiny tunnels and furrows are present in the runestone, which form the shape of a spell pattern.
You recognize the pattern of the Instinct spell.
You should get three more spells out of the runestone before it wears out.
Roundtime: 2 sec.
R>put rune in case
You tuck a colorful elbaite runestone into the runestone compartment of your spellbook case.
>get cala run
You get a shining calavarite runestone from inside your spellbook case.
>foc rune
You focus your magical senses on a shining calavarite runestone.
Though not actively magical, the runestone is made out of a material that resists the flow of mana. Tiny tunnels and furrows are present in the runestone, which form the shape of a spell pattern.
You recognize the pattern of the Arc Light spell.
You should get five more spells out of the runestone before it wears out.
Roundtime: 2 sec.
R>put rune in case
You tuck a shining calavarite runestone into the runestone compartment of your spellbook case.
>get sra rune
You get a dark silver sraeth runestone from inside your spellbook case.
>foc rune
You focus your magical senses on a dark silver sraeth runestone.
Though not actively magical, the runestone is made out of a material that resists the flow of mana. Tiny tunnels and furrows are present in the runestone, which form the shape of a spell pattern.
You recognize the pattern of the Soul Bonding spell.
You should get five more spells out of the runestone before it wears out.
Roundtime: 2 sec.
R>put rune in case
You tuck a dark silver sraeth runestone into the runestone compartment of your spellbook case.
>get imn run
You get a sky-blue imnera runestone from inside your spellbook case.
>foc rune
You focus your magical senses on a sky-blue imnera runestone.
Though not actively magical, the runestone is made out of a material that resists the flow of mana. Tiny tunnels and furrows are present in the runestone, which form the shape of a spell pattern.
You recognize the pattern of the Zephyr spell.
You should get three more spells out of the runestone before it wears out.
Roundtime: 2 sec.
R>put rune in case
You tuck a sky-blue imnera runestone into the runestone compartment of your spellbook case.
>exp
Circle: 99
Showing all skills with field experience.
SKILL: Rank/Percent towards next rank/Amount learning/Mindstate Fraction
Sorcery: 0 12% dabbling (1/34)
No skills have field experience or none meet your criteria!
Total Ranks Displayed: 0
Time Development Points: 302 Favors: 3 Deaths: 22 Departs: 5
Overall state of mind: clear
EXP HELP for more information
~Tezirite Renzar Lorrani
"Power is merely a stepping stone to more power."
Just removed the timer - Let me know how that goes?
Since the learning peters out after 50 ranks anyway I'm not too concerned about this being an avenue for abuse, but since it trains two skills at once (if your arcana is low) the learning rate isn't as fast as a single skill.
Remember also that Sorcery is a skill that's not necessarily intended to be as easy to learn as augmentation (just like thievery is harder to learn than climbing).
--
"The ninety and nine are with dreams, content but the hope of the world made new, is the hundredth man who is grimly bent on making those dreams come true." -E.A.P.
Since the learning peters out after 50 ranks anyway I'm not too concerned about this being an avenue for abuse, but since it trains two skills at once (if your arcana is low) the learning rate isn't as fast as a single skill.
Remember also that Sorcery is a skill that's not necessarily intended to be as easy to learn as augmentation (just like thievery is harder to learn than climbing).
--
"The ninety and nine are with dreams, content but the hope of the world made new, is the hundredth man who is grimly bent on making those dreams come true." -E.A.P.
Hmm I only learn off my Calavarite rune. Did a few cycles of all my runes (the off mana ones anyhow) and got nadda other than 1/34 mindstate when I hit the calavarite. So I kept out the calavarite and did 40 focuses on it. Didnt move past 1/34 in Sorcery. Im thinkin it looks like its checking difficulty of the rune somehow but Im not sure its reading it right since at 0 ranks of sorcery I would imagine it should learn at least a bit better than it is.
~Tezirite Renzar Lorrani
"Power is merely a stepping stone to more power."
~Tezirite Renzar Lorrani
"Power is merely a stepping stone to more power."
I'm wondering if it's kinda-sorta like the problem that was initially happening over in Plat (forever ago, now fixed!), where you're at a detriment if your augmentation/warding/etc is notably higher than your sorcery, so we'd never learn sorcery even though we were casting at our personal caps. Only in this case, because arcana is doing so much of the heavy lifting in the check because of the lack of sorcery, Renzar can't learn sorcery.
The teeth lands a solid (5/23) hit that pokes the teeth into Turul's rear end (more embarrassing than painful!).
The teeth lands a solid (5/23) hit that pokes the teeth into Turul's rear end (more embarrassing than painful!).
Soch fixed it over in test now. It was lookin at the wrong skill and then he upped the learn rate on it. Its a bit tedious and it declines after 50 ranks but its a great foot in the door into Sorcery for those that dont want to learn from a class. Ive never been big on the fact that there are gonna be teaching mules and folks are gonna get tons of ranks from not actually messing with Sorcery and cross mana spells. Kinda takes all the "my arms just exploded for the 15th time today" fun out of it. But c'est la vie.
~Tezirite Renzar Lorrani
"Power is merely a stepping stone to more power."
~Tezirite Renzar Lorrani
"Power is merely a stepping stone to more power."
