This is kind of a random question, but I was wondering if it is still against policy to use triggers to instantly steal from players walking into the room. I know it used to be, because I was personally busted for it along with some other thieves (although we only got warned and told we better stop), but seeing as how that was a long, LONG ass time ago (1998 or earlier since it was before I played Apu), it's very likely that the policy could be totally different now.

I don't particularly care that much, I just got curious since it used to be taboo, but now there's a high level bought Thief blatantly doing it at the Crossing Bank, so it just got me wondering what the rules actually were nowadays

Apu

As long as they're not afk doing it I don't see where it would be a problem.

The approach time on stealing time nowadays would tend to make those who casually pass through pretty much immune, unless they choose to linger after making a withdrawal or before a deposit. In either case, that's more their fault than an opportunistic thief doing anything wrong.

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I thought you couldn't instant steal from anyone anymore.



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I'm not sure how, but I am almost posititve there is a way to instant steal. I've lost coins a few times in the time it took me to go out of the bank and NW with 5,7 on the ten key. That takes like .2 seconds.

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With enough skill it's practically instant, I believe.

Ohh, hmm, that makes sense then. Some guy stole from me last night when I had zero coins and I told them. They pretty much just shrugged.

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>>Theft Bots are still "no-nos".

>>The situation has been remedied.

lol whoops, I was just curious, wasn't really trying to get people in trouble or anything.

I guess the policies are still the same though, that answers that

Apu

<<lol whoops, I was just curious, wasn't really trying to get people in trouble or anything.>>

No one got in trouble.


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>>Awesome another way stealing is nerf batted

I know it's just like how I'm not instantly at melee with everything.

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We were quite literally (and forcefully) told this was mech abuse in 1998, Dunrook.

I think we were even told that having a macro for it was of dubious legality. e.g. press macro get 'steal ' and just tap in the first three of a name real quick, but I can't remember.

As it was, it wasn't really an issue for most Thieves, because Traders were still AFK scripting on the routes, so they were easy pickings.

<<I don't even see how Simu could tell you're using triggers if you do it right, but I definitely never tempted fate on that one, once they made it clear it wasn't allowed>>

It's really pretty simple. We can show you any text we want you to see. So, it's simply a matter of scrolling your screen with "Bizzlebozzle just arrived" and watching just how fast you try to steal from Bizzlebozzle, who doesn't actually happen to be there with you. After that, seeing just how long it takes you to respond to it is a whole 'nother ball of fun.


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<<I had triggers set up to check an Off Limits list (for fellow thieves, plus Shapeshifter who you sure as hell weren't going to steal from)>>

hey, i got a few gems from shapey, back in the day, basically cause that "hand" thingie he had protected his coins but not his gems. not that he didn't catch me, he chased me halfway to theren and back. <and that was before the 5th passage "tunnel" so i was stuck trying to cross the ferry before he got there>

but the main drawback now is the whole "open" thing. oh well.

but never used any sort of macro. i usually missed grabs as often as not, unless the traders <putting the Steal in "steelclaw" clan> were afk and you stalked them.

now they've put the whole "open" thing, so... this thief has retired from pickpocketing.

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I stole from Shape once in Leth Deriel and he chased me all the way to Theren. Including a tense ferry ride to the Crossing where we were both on the ferry and he'd keep searching me out, and I'd just unhide and rehide while he was still in RT so he couldn't point.

Good times.

But yeah, I always just assumed stealing via a script with a trigger so you stole instantly as soon as someone entered the room was against policy without ever reading about it. It's kind of common sense.

Honestly, I think you were the only Thief who didn't steal from Shape, Apu. He was fairly easy money, and as long as you set up for the grab correctly, there wasn't a whole lot he could do about it. I was particularly fond of camping out on the ferry waiting until I had 17 seconds before it departed for the other side. Steal from him a few times real quick, get caught, bounce to the dock and snicker as he was carried off to the other side.

It sounds like he had a pretty bad stealing script.

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