It was an oversight that belts were sold not worn as a belt. That was corrected yesterday along with updates to thigh straps to be thigh worn. Toolbelts also became worn as belts. Additional updates now allow for WIELD AND SHEATHE, but that seems to be playing funny in rare cases, so I'm looking into that.

Suffice to say, this isn't a bug. You shouldn't be able to wear 30 belts. :p

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>>Suffice to say, this isn't a bug. You shouldn't be able to wear 30 belts. :p

Confirmation that DR is not a JRPGMMO, despite the grinding.

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If they can not be hidden, maybe have it so they don't have to be worn to tied and untied?

SEND[Naohhi] We'll look into it, but for now, you're making giant errors pop up all over the place on this side. :p
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You have some tiny scratches to the wings.

FYI, the grammar isn't quite right when I sheath my scythe to my toolstrap.

> she scy

Sheathing your a jagged scythe with a twisted glaes-spiked haft, you quickly tying it to your toolstrap.
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thank you! (you're quick!) did you also see the "a" before jagged?

> she scy

Sheathing your a jagged scythe with a twisted glaes-spiked haft, you quickly tie it to your toolstrap.
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>> You shouldn't be able to wear 30 belts.

Just realizing this additional change as I have been focused on the ties added to container issues. As with all things like this, an official announcement would have softened the blow vs. PAFO.

As a player that practices all of the crafting skills on a single character, and multiple crafts on others, I saw these as very nice fest-only items (and expensive, relatively) with a move in the right direction - making the game more fun. In fact, I would put these items as one of the best things released in the past year (in addition to shaping). Slots are pretty limited when you take into account weapons and bundles, it was nice to move stuff out of my bags. Pretty bummed that this got changed, in addition with the wield/sheathing issues with ties + containers.

Perhaps a feature could be added to make the slot changeable to back/shoulder/waist/belt? That way we could perhaps at least shuffle things around easier.

You can get item-hiders for belt-worn items, though not waist-worn items (that I recall seeing). Perhaps item hiders for waist-items could be added to the next Guild Fest please?

Just some thoughts.

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I'm fine with simucoins being used for item upgrades.

Following this flow of logic, should we be expecting logical fixes so that people are not able to carry around ten to twenty very sharp weapons in cotton duffel bags anymore? Or thirty weapons in general, etc etc.

>> Why can't you just take off your tailoring belt full of crap and put it in your backpack?

Yeah I'm not really following this either, especially since you can only do one crafting skill at a time anyway so why do you need to wear all of them all the time?

It's a two second change in your scripts c'mon.

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Crafting tool belts aren't being hidden by inventory hiding robes (like the flowing night-black shadesatin robes with embroidered golden filigree).

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>> I don't see why people are so mad you can't wear all the crafting belts at once.

I'm not mad about it, but this is the classic case of being upset about something taken away. Had they never been generally worn people wouldn't be upset, but since they were, people bemoan the loss of ability/feature.

It's generally why Game Devs like to add a new feature in a weak form and buff it until it's balanced rather than make it strong out of the gate and have to nerf it.

>> Dude its a belt, not a guild ability. It's not a spell. It's a belt. It was created incorrectly. It was fixed. There are a million better things to be upset about in <insert guild here>.

You asked why people were upset, I gave you the reason behind it. If you want to fight human nature, go for it.

I really hate not being able to untie craft tools and weapons from ties due to being injured. This is very annoying.

Following up on the "I don't know why people are so mad" etc comments.. it isn't a matter of being mad, I'm just curious why time was spent on "fixing" this. I'm not sure why the "oh it's weird for people to be wearing multiple belts" when there are so many other things that are done in game that don't follow a lot of logic but are done anyways. Generic worn belts was really the breaking point of logic that time needed to be allocated to fix this? Again, seems like something that was "fixed" that previously benefited the player, meanwhile things that need to be fixed that are not beneficial to the player base are ignored.

Besides, crafting belts are not the only thing worn on the waist that take up space. People have bundles, regular belts (war belts), etc that use up the waist slot. Having to remove those and store them elsewhere to pull a crafting belt out of another location and wear it tends to defeat the point of the crafting belts in the first place.

>Fixing belts may have taken X amount of time, fixing :whatever: may take a lot more.

Expanding on that, I expect this was as easy as filling in one missing definition that was really and immediately obvious. Fixing :whatever: usually starts with having no idea exactly which script is responsible for the bugged output, what line or lines are doing it, or why. Then the answer is probably that the immediately responsible script is fine, but it calls on a script that makes an erroneous assumption about another script that has a semicolon instead of a comma in a function that is poorly commented and the only way to find out what it does is to figure out how to run it.

Or something.

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Your search-fu is pig dung!

>remove belt 1
>stow belt 1
>get belt 2
>wear belt 2
>untie tool
>action
>retie tool
>remove belt 2
>stow belt 2
>get belt 1
>wear belt 1

If you're getting out a whole belt for one item, you can just:

put first tool in my backpack
get second tool from my backback
action
put second tool in my backpack
get third tool from my backpack
etc.

There's nothing that says that you have to wear toolbelts to use tools. If they don't work efficiently for you, don't use them.

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The thing about the belts is no extra weight, still item count but not that extra weight.

Back to my issue since learning they are meant to be worn around the waist, I bugged about it because I wasn't aware they were being changed and thought it was an actual bug.

I just would like them to be able to be hidden and if possible to untie and tie without wearing them.

Otherwise I don't really care.

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That wasn't the bug.

I thought them changing worn location was a bug.

There are already items that "magically" lower weight, it is a game and in this game there is magic.

So that is not the point of any of this.

I swear sometimes I think some of you just like to write things, just to do it, with not real input.

SEND[Naohhi] We'll look into it, but for now, you're making giant errors pop up all over the place on this side. :p
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>> and if the weight of the various tools is burdening you that much.. time to invest in some strength and stamina..

Tools and materials are REALLY heavy. This isn't practical. Especially for lower circle characters.

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>> If they don't work efficiently for you, don't use them.

Thank you for proving my point of the entire thread. They actually used to work efficiently.

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