Previous Thread
Expand All
Collapse All
Ignore Author
Reply
* Continued from Lumberjacking folder.
I don't see why bourde would make better containers at all, the stats on the material are exactly the same as silk and the only difference (besides the name) is that it's denser. I've heard before that the type of thread used can also cause some fluxuations in finished product and maybe that's what you're seeing? Either way, I'd love to see some copy/paste information that includes an analyze, measurements, and appraisal.
You say to Tathalus, "Have you ever tried to clean a troll den? The smell sticks around for years to come."
Liev says, "That is my cue to leave."
All four containers were made using fine silk thread for the stitching. I have no khaddar to check that as well, but from the trend I see here, I don't expect anything different from using it. The bourde and silk seem close enough in density (just a bit difference) that they're able to achieve the same weight in finished product, same with the ruazin and farandine, but the appraised price does go up by a significant amount. I think it is likely due to this increased value which makes it a bit harder to get material stats from a careful appraisal (even for a Trader)
>Heavy Bourde:
You analyze every aspect of the backpack and nod as your understanding grows.
This appears to be a type of finished cloth container that is masterfully-crafted.
The backpack is a somewhat challenging piece to make.
It was made by someone with abilities close to your own skill.
You recognize this work as your own.
Roundtime: 9 sec.
The backpack is a container, and can be opened and closed.
The backpack is fairly soft.
It appears that the backpack can be worn on the back.
You are certain that the backpack weighs exactly 15 stones.
You are certain that the backpack is worth exactly 19600 Lirums, 24500 Kronars, or 17679 Dokoras.
Roundtime: 16 seconds.
You compare your backpack with the detailed yardstick several times and are certain the interior length measures fourteen spans, the interior width measures ten spans, the interior height measures seven spans and the backpack appears capable of holding about 1280 stones of weight.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>Heavy Farandine:
You analyze every aspect of the backpack and nod as your understanding grows.
This appears to be a type of finished cloth container that is masterfully-crafted.
The backpack is a somewhat challenging piece to make.
It was made by someone with abilities close to your own skill.
You recognize this work as your own.
Roundtime: 9 sec.
The backpack is a container, and can be opened and closed.
You believe that the fabric in the backpack has a quality of 95, placing it at 'nearly perfect' on the official Trader's Scale.
You are confident that the fabric in the backpack has a durability of 45, placing it at 'decent durability' on the official Trader's Scale.
You guess that the fabric in the backpack has a workability of 59, placing it at 'challenging to work with' on the official Trader's Scale.
You are confident that the fabric in the backpack has an electrical resistance of 45, placing it at 'a very good conductor of electricity' on the official Trader's Scale.
You wonder if the fabric in the backpack has a thermal resistance of 56, placing it at 'good at transferring heat and cold' on the official Trader's Scale.
You believe that the fabric in the backpack has a physical resistance of 89, placing it at 'exceptionally good at repelling physical blows' on the official Trader's Scale.
The backpack is fairly soft.
It appears that the backpack can be worn on the back.
You are certain that the backpack weighs exactly 18 stones.
You are certain that the backpack is worth exactly 4900 Lirums, 6125 Kronars, or 4419 Dokoras.
Roundtime: 16 seconds.
You compare your backpack with the detailed yardstick several times and are certain the interior length measures fourteen spans, the interior width measures ten spans, the interior height measures seven spans and the backpack appears capable of holding about 1280 stones of weight.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>Heavy Ruazin Wool:
You analyze every aspect of the backpack and nod as your understanding grows.
This appears to be a type of finished cloth container that is masterfully-crafted.
The backpack is a somewhat challenging piece to make.
It was made by someone with abilities close to your own skill.
You recognize this work as your own.
Roundtime: 9 sec.
The backpack is a container, and can be opened and closed.
You are certain that the fabric in the backpack is of very high quality.
You guess that the fabric in the backpack is difficult to work with.
You wonder if the fabric in the backpack is a good conductor of electricity.
You are certain that the fabric in the backpack is good at transferring heat and cold.
You think it is likely that the fabric in the backpack is incredibly good at repelling physical blows.
The backpack is fairly soft.
It appears that the backpack can be worn on the back.
You are certain that the backpack weighs exactly 18 stones.
You are certain that the backpack is worth exactly 17640 Lirums, 22050 Kronars, or 15911 Dokoras.
Roundtime: 16 seconds.
You compare your backpack with the detailed yardstick several times and are certain the interior length measures fourteen spans, the interior width measures ten spans, the interior height measures seven spans and the backpack appears capable of holding about 1280 stones of weight.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>Heavy Silk:
You analyze every aspect of the backpack and nod as your understanding grows.
This appears to be a type of finished cloth container that is masterfully-crafted.
The backpack is a somewhat challenging piece to make.
It was made by someone with abilities close to your own skill.
You recognize this work as your own.
Roundtime: 9 sec.
The backpack is a container, and can be opened and closed.
You are certain that the fabric in the backpack has a quality of 99, placing it at 'perfect' on the official Trader's Scale.
You are certain that the fabric in the backpack has a durability of 60, placing it at 'good durability' on the official Trader's Scale.
You are certain that the fabric in the backpack has a workability of 20, placing it at 'difficult to work with' on the official Trader's Scale.
You are certain that the fabric in the backpack has an electrical resistance of 35, placing it at 'a great conductor of electricity' on the official Trader's Scale.
You are certain that the fabric in the backpack has a thermal resistance of 50, placing it at 'good at transferring heat and cold' on the official Trader's Scale.
You are certain that the fabric in the backpack has a physical resistance of 85, placing it at 'exceptionally good at repelling physical blows' on the official Trader's Scale.
The backpack is fairly soft.
It appears that the backpack can be worn on the back.
You are certain that the backpack weighs exactly 15 stones.
You are certain that the backpack is worth exactly 2940 Lirums, 3675 Kronars, or 2651 Dokoras.
Roundtime: 16 seconds.
You compare your backpack with the detailed yardstick several times and are certain the interior length measures fourteen spans, the interior width measures ten spans, the interior height measures seven spans and the backpack appears capable of holding about 1280 stones of weight.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
You say to Tathalus, "Have you ever tried to clean a troll den? The smell sticks around for years to come."
Liev says, "That is my cue to leave."
>Heavy Bourde:
You analyze every aspect of the backpack and nod as your understanding grows.
This appears to be a type of finished cloth container that is masterfully-crafted.
The backpack is a somewhat challenging piece to make.
It was made by someone with abilities close to your own skill.
You recognize this work as your own.
Roundtime: 9 sec.
The backpack is a container, and can be opened and closed.
The backpack is fairly soft.
It appears that the backpack can be worn on the back.
You are certain that the backpack weighs exactly 15 stones.
You are certain that the backpack is worth exactly 19600 Lirums, 24500 Kronars, or 17679 Dokoras.
Roundtime: 16 seconds.
You compare your backpack with the detailed yardstick several times and are certain the interior length measures fourteen spans, the interior width measures ten spans, the interior height measures seven spans and the backpack appears capable of holding about 1280 stones of weight.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>Heavy Farandine:
You analyze every aspect of the backpack and nod as your understanding grows.
This appears to be a type of finished cloth container that is masterfully-crafted.
The backpack is a somewhat challenging piece to make.
It was made by someone with abilities close to your own skill.
You recognize this work as your own.
Roundtime: 9 sec.
The backpack is a container, and can be opened and closed.
You believe that the fabric in the backpack has a quality of 95, placing it at 'nearly perfect' on the official Trader's Scale.
You are confident that the fabric in the backpack has a durability of 45, placing it at 'decent durability' on the official Trader's Scale.
You guess that the fabric in the backpack has a workability of 59, placing it at 'challenging to work with' on the official Trader's Scale.
You are confident that the fabric in the backpack has an electrical resistance of 45, placing it at 'a very good conductor of electricity' on the official Trader's Scale.
You wonder if the fabric in the backpack has a thermal resistance of 56, placing it at 'good at transferring heat and cold' on the official Trader's Scale.
You believe that the fabric in the backpack has a physical resistance of 89, placing it at 'exceptionally good at repelling physical blows' on the official Trader's Scale.
The backpack is fairly soft.
It appears that the backpack can be worn on the back.
You are certain that the backpack weighs exactly 18 stones.
You are certain that the backpack is worth exactly 4900 Lirums, 6125 Kronars, or 4419 Dokoras.
Roundtime: 16 seconds.
You compare your backpack with the detailed yardstick several times and are certain the interior length measures fourteen spans, the interior width measures ten spans, the interior height measures seven spans and the backpack appears capable of holding about 1280 stones of weight.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>Heavy Ruazin Wool:
You analyze every aspect of the backpack and nod as your understanding grows.
This appears to be a type of finished cloth container that is masterfully-crafted.
The backpack is a somewhat challenging piece to make.
It was made by someone with abilities close to your own skill.
You recognize this work as your own.
Roundtime: 9 sec.
The backpack is a container, and can be opened and closed.
You are certain that the fabric in the backpack is of very high quality.
You guess that the fabric in the backpack is difficult to work with.
You wonder if the fabric in the backpack is a good conductor of electricity.
You are certain that the fabric in the backpack is good at transferring heat and cold.
You think it is likely that the fabric in the backpack is incredibly good at repelling physical blows.
The backpack is fairly soft.
It appears that the backpack can be worn on the back.
You are certain that the backpack weighs exactly 18 stones.
You are certain that the backpack is worth exactly 17640 Lirums, 22050 Kronars, or 15911 Dokoras.
Roundtime: 16 seconds.
You compare your backpack with the detailed yardstick several times and are certain the interior length measures fourteen spans, the interior width measures ten spans, the interior height measures seven spans and the backpack appears capable of holding about 1280 stones of weight.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>Heavy Silk:
You analyze every aspect of the backpack and nod as your understanding grows.
This appears to be a type of finished cloth container that is masterfully-crafted.
The backpack is a somewhat challenging piece to make.
It was made by someone with abilities close to your own skill.
You recognize this work as your own.
Roundtime: 9 sec.
The backpack is a container, and can be opened and closed.
You are certain that the fabric in the backpack has a quality of 99, placing it at 'perfect' on the official Trader's Scale.
You are certain that the fabric in the backpack has a durability of 60, placing it at 'good durability' on the official Trader's Scale.
You are certain that the fabric in the backpack has a workability of 20, placing it at 'difficult to work with' on the official Trader's Scale.
You are certain that the fabric in the backpack has an electrical resistance of 35, placing it at 'a great conductor of electricity' on the official Trader's Scale.
You are certain that the fabric in the backpack has a thermal resistance of 50, placing it at 'good at transferring heat and cold' on the official Trader's Scale.
You are certain that the fabric in the backpack has a physical resistance of 85, placing it at 'exceptionally good at repelling physical blows' on the official Trader's Scale.
The backpack is fairly soft.
It appears that the backpack can be worn on the back.
You are certain that the backpack weighs exactly 15 stones.
You are certain that the backpack is worth exactly 2940 Lirums, 3675 Kronars, or 2651 Dokoras.
Roundtime: 16 seconds.
You compare your backpack with the detailed yardstick several times and are certain the interior length measures fourteen spans, the interior width measures ten spans, the interior height measures seven spans and the backpack appears capable of holding about 1280 stones of weight.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
You say to Tathalus, "Have you ever tried to clean a troll den? The smell sticks around for years to come."
Liev says, "That is my cue to leave."
Kodius commented way back when about maybe making special fabrics yield larger containers, but I don't believe he's ever revisited the idea. He's been kinda busy I think. Currently only the thread thickness affects the dimensions and carrying capacity of a container. Heavy fabric gives you the most weight at 1500 stones, 15 by 10 by 5. Thinner weaves give you less weight, but longer narrower containers.
Kasrendyr Windrustle
>I don't think material matters, just thread thickness.
Yeah, this was my understanding. However, some folks over in the Lumberjacking folder seem to hold a different opinion about it. Thus the request to see a copy/paste of the containers where they notice said difference.
>Kodius commented way back when about maybe making special fabrics yield larger containers, but I don't believe he's ever revisited the idea
Yeah, I remember this and I also don't remember anything ever coming of it. However, as I stated above, others seem to think it actually happened. Thus the testing and request for data from others.
>Heavy fabric gives you the most weight at 1500 stones, 15 by 10 by 5.
Those numbers don't jive with my testing/experience, are you getting them from a container you made? More details, please?
You say to Tathalus, "Have you ever tried to clean a troll den? The smell sticks around for years to come."
Liev says, "That is my cue to leave."
Yeah, this was my understanding. However, some folks over in the Lumberjacking folder seem to hold a different opinion about it. Thus the request to see a copy/paste of the containers where they notice said difference.
>Kodius commented way back when about maybe making special fabrics yield larger containers, but I don't believe he's ever revisited the idea
Yeah, I remember this and I also don't remember anything ever coming of it. However, as I stated above, others seem to think it actually happened. Thus the testing and request for data from others.
>Heavy fabric gives you the most weight at 1500 stones, 15 by 10 by 5.
Those numbers don't jive with my testing/experience, are you getting them from a container you made? More details, please?
You say to Tathalus, "Have you ever tried to clean a troll den? The smell sticks around for years to come."
Liev says, "That is my cue to leave."
Ah shoot, my bad, mixed a few numbers up there,
Mastercrafted backpacks, duffle bags, haversacks and rucksacks of heavy cloth should be '14 by 10 by 7', and hold 1280 stones.
Once way back when I made somebody a fine fabric backpack to fit some really tall armor and best I recall it was something like '18 by 10 by 5' and held less weight.
Kasrendyr Windrustle
Fine thread haversacks hold old longbows(new seem shorter).
average thread burlap Haversack is 16x10x6/1190 stones
Danoryiel used to have them all listed somewhere I thought.
___________________
You make a few adjustments to the Zoluren, and you feel confident that it will recognize you as its owner.
average thread burlap Haversack is 16x10x6/1190 stones
Danoryiel used to have them all listed somewhere I thought.
___________________
You make a few adjustments to the Zoluren, and you feel confident that it will recognize you as its owner.
oh... heh...
per Kodius 4/6/2013
>>The material doesn't make a difference. Burlap, wool, linen, cotton or silk will all come out to the same dimensions and weight capacity.
"Yeah, I'm reserving common materials affecting size for a later update. Rare cloth will give a larger container, however. That is coded in and should be working"
___________________
You make a few adjustments to the Zoluren, and you feel confident that it will recognize you as its owner.
per Kodius 4/6/2013
>>The material doesn't make a difference. Burlap, wool, linen, cotton or silk will all come out to the same dimensions and weight capacity.
"Yeah, I'm reserving common materials affecting size for a later update. Rare cloth will give a larger container, however. That is coded in and should be working"
___________________
You make a few adjustments to the Zoluren, and you feel confident that it will recognize you as its owner.
>Rare cloth will give a larger container, however. That is coded in and should be working
Yeah, just not seeing that currently. Unless I'm not using "rare" cloth and are using "uncommon" cloth, but since all the ones I tests (with the exception of silk) are from fest/quest... I dunno.
You say to Tathalus, "Have you ever tried to clean a troll den? The smell sticks around for years to come."
Liev says, "That is my cue to leave."
Yeah, just not seeing that currently. Unless I'm not using "rare" cloth and are using "uncommon" cloth, but since all the ones I tests (with the exception of silk) are from fest/quest... I dunno.
You say to Tathalus, "Have you ever tried to clean a troll den? The smell sticks around for years to come."
Liev says, "That is my cue to leave."
