Re: Armorsmithing and New Appraisal Ranges! on 07/16/2011 07:33 PM CDT
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Here's hoping that the post number of this release (666) in the main announcement folder isn't a bad omen... ;)

-Evran

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Re: Armorsmithing and New Appraisal Ranges! on 07/16/2011 07:43 PM CDT
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Well the appraisal ranges are there and there's armorsmithing books for sale, but Fereldrin still doesn't seem to want to talk about armorsmithing.

>ask ferel about armorsmithing

Fereldrin shakes his head and says, "Unfortunately we are not prepared to instruct crafters in the way of that Discipline yet. Please check back at a later time."

Thanks,
-Life Sustainer Karthor
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Re: Armorsmithing and New Appraisal Ranges! on 07/16/2011 08:39 PM CDT
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Hehe, my post did say in a few minutes. Everything should be turned on by now.




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Re: Armorsmithing and New Appraisal Ranges! on 07/16/2011 08:42 PM CDT
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Yeah, I just figured it'd all go in at once, a few minutes after your post :P

Seems to be working fine now, thanks.

-Life Sustainer Karthor
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Re: Armorsmithing and New Appraisal Ranges! on 07/16/2011 10:51 PM CDT
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Quick minor bug report:

The message when reinforcing was enough to get me started, and the messages as I worked were enough to get me through the task, but the message seems to generally be off. This may only be because I've only done this with a shield so far, and the process is different with other armors.

When reinforcing, you get this message:

You begin to study the instructions and slowly understand how metal armor reinforcing works. You must first disassemble portions of the armor by PULLing it with pliers. Then, it must be placed on an anvil and POUNDED while holding a hammer and tongs to adjust the piece for accepting additional protective leather strips. You may have to PUSH a bellows or PUSH fuel with a shovel to keep the fire hot during this process. At the end you will have to POUR some metalworking oil to protect the metal. Reinforcement results in a protection increase, at the expense of weight and a small amount of hindrance.
You scan the reinforcing instructions with a glance and completely understand all facets of the design.
You now feel ready to begin the crafting process.
Roundtime: 7 sec.

However, it seems you actually have to grind after the first pound, and it's not really a very long process

Also:

R> push grind with my targe
You use the spinning stone wheel to grind away a section of your targe. Then, you run it back along the grindstone to smooth and round off the new edges.

The armor is ready for grinding away of the excess metal.
Roundtime: 12 sec.
R> push grind with my targe

You grab a disassembled section of your targe and work it repeatedly over the fast-spinning wheel. After a time the metal wears away, and you dust it off before moving onto the next.

You think adjusting the armor at a grindstone would let you reinforce it further.
Roundtime: 29 sec.

Kinda silly to go from many grindings to another grinding and have the message change. (The "The armor is ready for grinding away of the excess metal" appeared at every step of grinding.)
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Re: Armorsmithing and New Appraisal Ranges! on 07/16/2011 11:06 PM CDT
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I noticed a minor text thing with the armor enhancements: they all say "A crafter may also find it helpful to have finished metal armor enhancement on hand." That can't be right, shouldn't it be pliers or grindstone?
And page 3 has the difficulty listed twice.
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Re: Armorsmithing and New Appraisal Ranges! on 07/16/2011 11:11 PM CDT
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Thanks for the feedback, I'll get it fixed up shortly.




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Re: Armorsmithing and New Appraisal Ranges! on 07/17/2011 08:30 AM CDT
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Is it intended that absorption and protection don't have an equal number of app ranges?

AbsProtect
UnbelievableUnbelievable
AmazingAmazing
IncredibleIncredible
ExceptionalExceptional
ExtremeExtreme
Very GreatVery Great
Great Great
Very HighVery High
HighHigh
Very GoodVery Good
GoodGood
ModerateModerate
FairFair
Somewhat FairLow
LowPoor
PoorNo
Very Poor
No



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Re: Armorsmithing and New Appraisal Ranges! on 07/17/2011 08:53 AM CDT
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Are all old armors/shields being converted to the new apps? My shield still has 'low to tremendous' protection. Not that I'm complaining but tremendous isn't on the new list of protection values so I was curious.

Thanks!

~Katt



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Re: Armorsmithing and New Appraisal Ranges! on 07/17/2011 10:20 AM CDT
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> Are all old armors/shields being converted to the new apps? My shield still has 'low to tremendous' protection. Not that I'm complaining but tremendous isn't on the new list of protection values so I was curious.

At the current time, worn armors are on the new scale while shields retain the old and separate shield scale.


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Re: Armorsmithing and New Appraisal Ranges! on 07/17/2011 11:04 AM CDT
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The behind-the-scenes ranges for each metric are of different sizes. In the old system they just made some of the values cover twice as many points in one of the ranges. Very confusing. So, I just added more levels so each chart is representative of the whole range without stretching anything.





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Re: Armorsmithing and New Appraisal Ranges! on 07/17/2011 12:30 PM CDT
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>The behind-the-scenes ranges for each metric are of different sizes. In the old system they just made some of the values cover twice as many points in one of the ranges. Very confusing. So, I just added more levels so each chart is representative of the whole range without stretching anything.

Yes, I agree very confusing.

Hopefully if I play around with it enough I'll understand these things.

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