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Just wondering what people in prime were making on the high end. I crafted this today. Cable-backed and laminated.
A mistwood battle shortbow is a short bow type weapon.
A mistwood battle shortbow trains the bow skill.
The battle shortbow is well designed for improving the force of your attacks.
You are certain that the shortbow is very well (11/17) balanced and is very well (11/17) suited for adding attack power from its draw strength.
The shortbow appears set for a draw strength that is exceptionally high (7/8) for a bow of this type.
The shortbow does not appear to have an adjustable draw strength.
You are certain that the battle shortbow is a bit safeguarded against damage (10/18), and is in pristine condition.
It appears that the battle shortbow can be slung over one shoulder.
You are certain that the battle shortbow weighs exactly 28 stones.
You are certain that the battle shortbow is worth exactly 137500 Lirums.
Roundtime: 8 seconds.
Load time is 3/4, or 4/5 with arm-worn shield
Anyone know is Forester's, Nisha, or Competition come out way superior?
[20:11] Chatter[Arathael] Usually only get skill when it's successful.
[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
Here's the rare wood bows that I have. I have a silverwood battle shortbow that was cable-backed and came out exactly like yours.
Cable-backed and Laminated:
A silverwood Nisha shortbow is a short bow type weapon.
A silverwood Nisha shortbow trains the bow skill.
The Nisha shortbow is decently (6/17) designed for improving the force of your attacks.
You are certain that the shortbow is excellently (12/17) balanced and is soundly (8/17) suited for adding attack power from its draw strength.
The shortbow appears set for a draw strength that is somewhat low (3/8) for a bow of this type.
The shortbow does not appear to have an adjustable draw strength.
You are certain that the Nisha shortbow is of average construction (9/18), and is in pristine condition (98-100%).
It appears that the Nisha shortbow can be slung over one shoulder.
You are certain that the Nisha shortbow weighs exactly 20 stones.
You are certain that the Nisha shortbow is worth exactly 106249 Dokoras.
The guy who made this also made a lightened one. The balance didn't go up from Superbly but the suitedness dropped to Reasonably. The balance dropped a level on this cable-backed one, but the suitedness didn't move enough to change levels.
Cable-backed and Laminated:
A copperwood battle longbow is a long bow type weapon.
A copperwood battle longbow trains the bow skill.
The battle longbow is superbly (13/17) designed for improving the force of your attacks.
You are certain that the longbow is decently (6/17) balanced and is incredibly (14/17) suited for adding attack power from its draw strength.
The longbow appears set for a draw strength that is exceptionally high (7/8) for a bow of this type.
The longbow does not appear to have an adjustable draw strength.
You are certain that the battle longbow is of average construction (9/18), and is in pristine condition (98-100%).
It appears that the battle longbow can be slung over one shoulder.
You are certain that the battle longbow weighs exactly 39 stones.
You are certain that the battle longbow is worth exactly 175282 Dokoras.
I love this bow. It has a stable 5 second load time with a shield on, but hits like a freight train.
>>You should have done cable lightening and made a Nisha or Competition bow...this would max out the balance to the highest possible outcome.
It depends on what you are going for. Lightening lowers the damage output of the bow, so if you can hit what you hunt reliably then the extra balance from lightening it is wasted and you do less damage. It might look cool when you appraise it, but it doesn't really make it anymore functional.
>>Most high end common woods come out equal to or better than that bow you made.
No they don't. I've made cherry/ash/mangrove battle shortbows and cable backed them, and they didn't turn out near as good as that. If all you're after is balance there is better templates for that, but balance only effects to-hit and fumble recovery.
Cable-backed and Laminated:
A silverwood Nisha shortbow is a short bow type weapon.
A silverwood Nisha shortbow trains the bow skill.
The Nisha shortbow is decently (6/17) designed for improving the force of your attacks.
You are certain that the shortbow is excellently (12/17) balanced and is soundly (8/17) suited for adding attack power from its draw strength.
The shortbow appears set for a draw strength that is somewhat low (3/8) for a bow of this type.
The shortbow does not appear to have an adjustable draw strength.
You are certain that the Nisha shortbow is of average construction (9/18), and is in pristine condition (98-100%).
It appears that the Nisha shortbow can be slung over one shoulder.
You are certain that the Nisha shortbow weighs exactly 20 stones.
You are certain that the Nisha shortbow is worth exactly 106249 Dokoras.
The guy who made this also made a lightened one. The balance didn't go up from Superbly but the suitedness dropped to Reasonably. The balance dropped a level on this cable-backed one, but the suitedness didn't move enough to change levels.
Cable-backed and Laminated:
A copperwood battle longbow is a long bow type weapon.
A copperwood battle longbow trains the bow skill.
The battle longbow is superbly (13/17) designed for improving the force of your attacks.
You are certain that the longbow is decently (6/17) balanced and is incredibly (14/17) suited for adding attack power from its draw strength.
The longbow appears set for a draw strength that is exceptionally high (7/8) for a bow of this type.
The longbow does not appear to have an adjustable draw strength.
You are certain that the battle longbow is of average construction (9/18), and is in pristine condition (98-100%).
It appears that the battle longbow can be slung over one shoulder.
You are certain that the battle longbow weighs exactly 39 stones.
You are certain that the battle longbow is worth exactly 175282 Dokoras.
I love this bow. It has a stable 5 second load time with a shield on, but hits like a freight train.
>>You should have done cable lightening and made a Nisha or Competition bow...this would max out the balance to the highest possible outcome.
It depends on what you are going for. Lightening lowers the damage output of the bow, so if you can hit what you hunt reliably then the extra balance from lightening it is wasted and you do less damage. It might look cool when you appraise it, but it doesn't really make it anymore functional.
>>Most high end common woods come out equal to or better than that bow you made.
No they don't. I've made cherry/ash/mangrove battle shortbows and cable backed them, and they didn't turn out near as good as that. If all you're after is balance there is better templates for that, but balance only effects to-hit and fumble recovery.
That is true. I was sort of simplifying things, but I guess I shouldn't do that with this new system.
The enhancements lowering a stat one full level and not raising another stat one full level is really bugging me. I think it should be more obvious.
You can see a slight difference when COMPARING them, but I am starting to think that enhancing them isn't worth it at this point.
I've only worked with normal/rare woods, not the super rare ones like you have.
What is your take on this?
(Remember we worked with a lot of the woods during test.) I am not sure if the stats were adjusted at all since the addition of rare woods.
>>What is your take on this?
IMO the appraisal ranges are just for the players. The numbers behind it is all that really matters, and if they go up then it is a positive change.
I think the the enhancements are useful for personal use, but if you are trying to sell the bow and want the best looking appraisal possible then not enhancing them might be useful.
In the long run I think it's going to turn out like Weaponsmithing, everyone will ignore lightening because we typically under-hunt and don't need the extra balance. It might be useful for those looking for the least RT possible though. I think cable-backing will be like the balancing enhancement for weapons, the goto standard, because it increases damage and the balance/RT hit is minimal enough that it's not going to ruin a bow.
I tested the battle longbow before and after backing it and there was a difference to me. I'm not going to notice the balance difference unless I step up the critter ladder to something I can't hit reliably when I'm fully buffed. I think it will come down to personal preference since lightening also provides less load time and that can be useful, but IMO enhancements for bows are useful regardless of appraisal range changes.
IMO the appraisal ranges are just for the players. The numbers behind it is all that really matters, and if they go up then it is a positive change.
I think the the enhancements are useful for personal use, but if you are trying to sell the bow and want the best looking appraisal possible then not enhancing them might be useful.
In the long run I think it's going to turn out like Weaponsmithing, everyone will ignore lightening because we typically under-hunt and don't need the extra balance. It might be useful for those looking for the least RT possible though. I think cable-backing will be like the balancing enhancement for weapons, the goto standard, because it increases damage and the balance/RT hit is minimal enough that it's not going to ruin a bow.
I tested the battle longbow before and after backing it and there was a difference to me. I'm not going to notice the balance difference unless I step up the critter ladder to something I can't hit reliably when I'm fully buffed. I think it will come down to personal preference since lightening also provides less load time and that can be useful, but IMO enhancements for bows are useful regardless of appraisal range changes.
