Nice to see parry sticks added to forging, thanks. I just had a couple of questions on things that seem like they could have gone either way.

1. Is the governing material property hardness like for a weapon, or physical resistance like for a shield? I suppose it would just affect balance, so it seems like it would be hardness. But then it's been placed under Armorsmithing, so maybe it's physical resistance?

2. Is repairing them considered weapon repair, or armor repair? Parry sticks are basically weapons you can't use to attack, so I could see it being weapon repair. But then it's been placed under Armorsmithing, so maybe it's armor repair?

Thanks,
-Life Weaver Karthor

I know Heartsfyre has recorded data, but I made 21 stone glaes and lumium, and the glaes was very well balanced while the lumium is soundly balanced.

Coupled with what I saw pure haralun doing, I'd say it's Hardness and lightness as the desirable characteristics.

Also, can't be balanced.

Naniaki Felyran

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This morning I made one in HCS/oravir.

You are certain that the stick is very well balanced and is poorly suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.

HCS/gold comes out less balanced and more suited. Not worth the suited if it's defensive, I suppose.

"Brace yourselves, Squanto is going to bleh blah fart fart bleh.." -the player of the character formerly known as Pureblade

Neat!

>Could you elaborate? What does the balance/suitedness of a parry stick affect?

In a weapon, balance affects the agility modifier for to-hit and damage calculations, while suitedness affects the modifier for strength.

In a parry stick, balance affects the modifier for parrying, and suitedness affects ???. Nothing, does not apply.

>>Is "This appears to be a type of unknown" due to a technique I'm missing?

IIRC this means the analyze system is missing a thing in a database somewhere. My guess is that there's no "this is a brawling weapon" (or armor?) flag set for it.

But definitely a bug! Make sure to hold the item and BUG ITEM in game.

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It looks like tempering a parry stick uses the Weapon Tempering techniques instead of armor. Is that intended? I think it's also using weapon techniques for repairing them, but I'm not totally sure on that. Should this thing just be a Weaponsmithing product under Martial Weapons instead of being placed as an Armorsmithing product?

>put stick on forge
Your lack of knowledge of the Rare-Metal Weapon Tempering technique prevents you from proceeding.

Thanks,
-Life Weaver Karthor

Also, should rare metals be capping at the same level as HCS? I made a silversteel one expecting awesomeness and then saw I just wasted thousands of plats worth of material when I could have used your everyday simple high carb steel.

> app stick

A simple silversteel parry stick is a brawling type weapon.
A simple silversteel parry stick trains the brawling skill.

You are certain that the stick is a purely defensive item.

You are certain that the stick is very well (10/17) balanced and is poorly (3/17) suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.

You are certain that the parry stick is practically invulnerable to damage (18/18), and is in pristine condition (98-100%).

The parry stick is made with metal.
It appears that the parry stick can be worn on the right arm.
You are certain that the parry stick weighs exactly 21 stones.
You are certain that the parry stick is worth exactly 867350 Kronars.
Roundtime: 8 seconds.
R>


> anal stick

You analyze every minute detail of the parry stick and smile knowingly to yourself.
This appears to be a type of unknown that is masterfully-crafted.
The stick is a challenging piece to make.
It was made by someone with abilities close to your own skill.
About 7 volume of metal was used in this item's construction.
The metal appears to be composed of: 71.42% silversteel, and 28.57% high carbon steel.
You recognize this work as your own.
The metal appears to have been slowly tempered to improve its durability.
Roundtime: 10 sec.
R>

>What else can they do with rare metals besides cap the durability or offer similar stats at a slightly lower weight?

High carb steel= very well balanced.
Silversteel= very well balanced.

Expected better from silversteel, not the same as your every day cheapo metal, that's why I asked, and everyone I've shown the parry stick to has said the same thing. Parry sticks are classified as a weapon, but everything about them is from the armor side so there's no preceding factors that had to be followed other than the 3.0 density minimum, just expected better than what we got is all that's why I asked the question.

>paywall parry stick templates

With how things have gone over the past year or two, I'm willing to bet you're 100% spot on here.