Is there a message or some indication that an area has been mined out? I don't really want to have to prospect after each blow.

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> My script prospects after 5 mines that don't result in a metal or rock. There's no "you're done" message.

Thanks. I think I can swing that.

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>>I don't remember the wording, but it says something like 'the area is exhausted, and it'll be some time before it can be mined again'.

I think you're talking about one of the gas trap results that wrecks the room and wipes out all everything in it for X amount of time.

Does one always get this message? (at least if you don't screw stuff up before you get to the metal)

>A spill of stone reveals the faint glimmer of metal beneath!

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My hunch is that it may be possible to tell when a room is tapped out, but I've never paid close enough attention to the messaging to figure it out. As one example, I have highlighted the text string:

"Black, crumbly stone gives way beneath the assault"

For certain types of rooms (mostly sedimentary rocks), that message ALWAYS means that the room is tapped out. In other types of rooms, you can frequently get that message while mining a room that still has plenty of rock left. So it seems like maybe there are certain messages for rooms with each type of rock, and that you may be able to tell that your room is empty if the messaging doesn't match the correct type for the rock you were just mining. I haven't really paid enough attention yet to tell for sure yet though

Apu

Personally, I would set it up so that you mine a certain amount of times before using prospect, depending on how much is there. 10 times for good, 6 for decent, 3 for small, and 1 when it gets to scattering.

Abison

>Does one always get this message? (at least if you don't screw stuff up before you get to the metal)

>A spill of stone reveals the faint glimmer of metal beneath!

No, you can get stone without seeing that message first. I've gotten it numerous times with the Sparks fly message without seeing that.

>I've also noticed this messaging: "Targeting an exposed glassy surface, you swing your wide shovel vigorously, shattering the stone and revealing a darker material below." It seems to only show up when the area is mined out.

Targeting an exposed glassy surface, you swing your stout pickaxe vigorously, shattering the stone and revealing a darker material below.
>prospect
You see evidence of mineral deposits and are certain a decent quantity remains to be found.
This area is composed of igneous rock layers.
Studying the geology, you are certain that continued mining will be quite safe.
You are certain that basalt can be mined here.
Miners stand ready to trade resources in for deeds. Just PUSH any mined up stone or metal, and they'll take care of the rest.

Targeting an exposed glassy surface, you swing your stout pickaxe vigorously, shattering the stone and revealing a darker material below.
>prospect
You see evidence of mineral deposits and are certain a small quantity remains to be found.
This area is composed of igneous rock layers.
Studying the geology, you are certain that continued mining will be quite safe.
You are certain that basalt can be mined here.
Miners stand ready to trade resources in for deeds. Just PUSH any mined up stone or metal, and they'll take care of the rest.

Targeting an exposed glassy surface, you swing your stout pickaxe vigorously, shattering the stone and revealing a darker material below.
>prospect
You see evidence of mineral deposits and are certain a small quantity remains to be found.
This area is composed of igneous rock layers.
Studying the geology, you are certain that continued mining will be slightly dangerous.
You are certain that basalt can be mined here.
Miners stand ready to trade resources in for deeds. Just PUSH any mined up stone or metal, and they'll take care of the rest.

Targeting an exposed glassy surface, you swing your stout pickaxe vigorously, shattering the stone and revealing a darker material below.
>prospect
You see evidence of mineral deposits and are certain a scattering of resources remains to be found.
This area is composed of igneous rock layers.
Studying the geology, you are certain that continued mining will be somewhat dangerous.
You are certain that basalt can be mined here.
You recognize some markings on the wall pointing to a safer mining angle as your own.
Miners stand ready to trade resources in for deeds. Just PUSH any mined up stone or metal, and they'll take care of the rest.

And another dozen similar.

>I think there is a "you're done" message, but I've only ever seen it in the Wicked Burrow Mine, and not even consistently there. I don't remember the wording, but it says something like 'the area is exhausted, and it'll be some time before it can be mined again'.

Are you thinking of this message? It's the only one I recall seeing that comes close except for a disaster message. This was after cleaning a room then PROSPECT CAREFUL and cleaning it again.

>prospect careful
You carefully scan the area and look for ways to excavate additional material. Your analysis has revealed no additional resources to be unearthed here.

>>I understand that, but I don't actually care about stone, just when an area is mined out. Am I correct in saying that, barring an accident, if you mine an area from just respawned to empty you will always see the "A spill of stone reveals the faint glimmer of metal beneath!" message?

Correct, that is always the start of where you are getting metal. As long as no one else has mined before you, you will see that.


Abison

Gah, can't believe I typed it that way. My apologies. Should have previewed it.

The vast majority of the time you will see the Spill of stone message before you will start getting metal in a re-spawned room, but there are occasions where you will get metal on the Sparks fly message without first getting the Spill of stone message. That happened twice in the hour of mining I just did and I know the rooms were fresh.

I have just over 100 foraging and have been finding metals just fine in Dusk Ogres - Lumium, Oravir, Nickel, Tin and so on. Sure I get about 5 to 1 rocks, but each mining trip gets me a fair amount of metal. Also, I am getting small nuggets, but also large ones so it seems to be all sizes are obtainable.

I just love that this moves foraging, I'd mine even if it didn't.

>>i just find it disappointing that with over 220 foraging i can't seem to find much other than rocks, even though when i prospect there is supposed to be nickel or tin. i was mining in dirge mine and kept striking the bitter smell thing, did the prospect danger.

I find it disappointing that with the same foraging, I'm finding all kinds of metals, but still haven't found anything rarer than platinum, no matter how many rooms i mine out.

One key indicator of when a room is close to being mined out, you'll notice that the metal drops you're getting are 'better' than the drops you would get on average before. When you get close to mining an area out, your chances of getting better drops are increased, and I've noticed it many times. Mostly I'll be mining a vein, getting small/tiny/medium nuggets, then suddenly find two or three large/huge/massive nuggets pretty close together. Thats a pretty good indication you've broken the 'scattering' line.

339 foraging, 323 appraisal, and 287 perception and I tend to get 10-25 units of metal per rare room. It tends to shift higher for common things, and lower for very rare things.

>>I find it disappointing that with the same foraging, I'm finding all kinds of metals, but still haven't found anything rarer than platinum, no matter how many rooms i mine out.

Pretty sure the skill has nothing to do with how often you find rare stuff, it only helps you get more of stuff that you find once you find it.

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