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IIRC, it's possible to 'hide' an items true name, that is, the name you can use to interact with the item*. It would be very nice if the display name was still "<size> <ore/stone> <noun>" to look easily at a bag of items, and have it read correctly, but if the true name was "<ore/stone>-<size> <noun>". This would make it very easy to grab the correct sized ore, or sort precisely based on ore+size, or start smelting with the largest items first, etc.
*see IOE ritual circles, I think the true name is <charname> circle or something like that, but displays differently
TG, TG, GL, et al.
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-Raesh
>>It would be very nice if the display name was still "<size> <ore/stone> <noun>" to look easily at a bag of items, and have it read correctly, but if the true name was "<ore/stone>-<size> <noun>".
As a miner, I endorse this suggestion. Sorting deeds, nuggets, etc., like this would be great.
-- Player of Eyuve
As a miner, I endorse this suggestion. Sorting deeds, nuggets, etc., like this would be great.
-- Player of Eyuve
It is on my list to eventually make some sort of deed book to help you organize your ores. This would tie into the crafting toolbag and crafting vault space. Just a big project, and waiting on other things.
"I have no data yet. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories instead of theories to suit facts."
- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sherlock Holmes
"I have no data yet. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories instead of theories to suit facts."
- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sherlock Holmes
>>It is on my list to eventually make some sort of deed book to help you organize your ores. This would tie into the crafting toolbag and crafting vault space. Just a big project, and waiting on other things.
I'm not sure how that helps in this case? The suggestion is for changing items names BEFORE they're smelted into ores.
TG, TG, GL, et al.
"Disagreement with the fundamental plan at this point is akin to supporting Richard III vs the Tudors."
-Raesh
I'm not sure how that helps in this case? The suggestion is for changing items names BEFORE they're smelted into ores.
TG, TG, GL, et al.
"Disagreement with the fundamental plan at this point is akin to supporting Richard III vs the Tudors."
-Raesh
>I'm not sure how that helps in this case? The suggestion is for changing items names BEFORE they're smelted into ores.
Ores can be deeded.
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Ores can be deeded.
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>Right, and how often do you really see the need to deed pre-smelted items for long term?
About as often as I need to pull out a specific sized piece of ore.
Stones, yes. Ore, no.
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About as often as I need to pull out a specific sized piece of ore.
Stones, yes. Ore, no.
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>>About as often as I need to pull out a specific sized piece of ore.
So you store nuggets/fragments etc. for long periods every day? (How often I'm smelting) Really? I doubt that.
TG, TG, GL, et al.
"Disagreement with the fundamental plan at this point is akin to supporting Richard III vs the Tudors."
-Raesh
So you store nuggets/fragments etc. for long periods every day? (How often I'm smelting) Really? I doubt that.
TG, TG, GL, et al.
"Disagreement with the fundamental plan at this point is akin to supporting Richard III vs the Tudors."
-Raesh
>So you store nuggets/fragments etc. for long periods every day? (How often I'm smelting) Really? I doubt that.
If I'm understand your question right: yes
If not: Huh?
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If I'm understand your question right: yes
If not: Huh?
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Why in all that's holy would you store ANY amount of mined ore as ore, instead of ingots (Ore, NOT rocks), beyond the amount of time it takes you to get to a foundry? Each deed takes up 2 items (deed + ore), and you're carrying the weight of multiple deeds at that point instead of smelting multiple ores into an ingot, and simply deeding the ingot?
TG, TG, GL, et al.
"Disagreement with the fundamental plan at this point is akin to supporting Richard III vs the Tudors."
-Raesh
TG, TG, GL, et al.
"Disagreement with the fundamental plan at this point is akin to supporting Richard III vs the Tudors."
-Raesh
>>You can't smelt stone.
Really? /sarcasm
It's apparent deed books will help with stone. NOT ore. Hence: https://forums.play.net/forums/DragonRealms/Abilities,%20Skills%20and%20Magic/Suggestions%20-%20Mining/view/777
Caraamon, unsurprisingly, is the one who went off on a tangent that deed books will help with stone, when I was asking how it will help with ore.
TG, TG, GL, et al.
"Disagreement with the fundamental plan at this point is akin to supporting Richard III vs the Tudors."
-Raesh
Really? /sarcasm
It's apparent deed books will help with stone. NOT ore. Hence: https://forums.play.net/forums/DragonRealms/Abilities,%20Skills%20and%20Magic/Suggestions%20-%20Mining/view/777
Caraamon, unsurprisingly, is the one who went off on a tangent that deed books will help with stone, when I was asking how it will help with ore.
TG, TG, GL, et al.
"Disagreement with the fundamental plan at this point is akin to supporting Richard III vs the Tudors."
-Raesh
>>Why in all that's holy would you store ANY amount of mined ore as ore, instead of ingots
As of right now, it would be kinda stupid to store all your metals as ore instead of ingots. But if a booklet were released which allowed you to store the ores without counting as additional items towards the 500 item limit, then there would be no advantage to storing as ingots over storing as ores, so why not?
That would be awesome change since then you wouldn't always have to run straight to the forge after mining. Alot of times I want to go straight to hunting after mining but I have to go smelt stuff first since the ore is too much burden (or too much item count, if deeded). Obviously that's not the end of the world or anything, but if it's something that can be semi-easily coded up, it would be cool
Unless of course I'm just misunderstanding and the proposed booklet would not solve the "deed = 2 items" problem, but in that case there wouldn't be much benefit to it at all, for deeds, ingots, stones, whatever.
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As of right now, it would be kinda stupid to store all your metals as ore instead of ingots. But if a booklet were released which allowed you to store the ores without counting as additional items towards the 500 item limit, then there would be no advantage to storing as ingots over storing as ores, so why not?
That would be awesome change since then you wouldn't always have to run straight to the forge after mining. Alot of times I want to go straight to hunting after mining but I have to go smelt stuff first since the ore is too much burden (or too much item count, if deeded). Obviously that's not the end of the world or anything, but if it's something that can be semi-easily coded up, it would be cool
Unless of course I'm just misunderstanding and the proposed booklet would not solve the "deed = 2 items" problem, but in that case there wouldn't be much benefit to it at all, for deeds, ingots, stones, whatever.
Apu
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>>As of right now, it would be kinda stupid to store all your metals as ore instead of ingots. But if a booklet were released which allowed you to store the ores without counting as additional items towards the 500 item limit, then there would be no advantage to storing as ingots over storing as ores, so why not?
At that point, you're just time shifting when you care about it from "right after mining" to "when smelting prior to doing work orders".
TG, TG, GL, et al.
"Disagreement with the fundamental plan at this point is akin to supporting Richard III vs the Tudors."
-Raesh
At that point, you're just time shifting when you care about it from "right after mining" to "when smelting prior to doing work orders".
TG, TG, GL, et al.
"Disagreement with the fundamental plan at this point is akin to supporting Richard III vs the Tudors."
-Raesh
>>At that point, you're just time shifting when you care about it from "right after mining" to "when smelting prior to doing work orders".
Yup, and it would be very helpful to have that option available
(assuming it's not really difficult to code)
Apu
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Yup, and it would be very helpful to have that option available
(assuming it's not really difficult to code)
Apu
_
http://www.elanthipedia.org/wiki/User:Apu
>Why in all that's holy would you store ANY amount of mined ore as ore, instead of ingots (Ore, NOT rocks), beyond the amount of time it takes you to get to a foundry?
For some reason, a lot of people's mining scripts seems to deed ores. I personally think it's stupid, I just carry it all in nugget/fragment/shard/lump form until such time as my 2 shovels go down to "good condition" and need fixing (about 6, 7, 8 full veins?), and then I take it in town to my forging character and smelt it all wholesale.
It HAS been useful for when I'm buying nuggets from people, as I pick out the 99 quality stuff (because the deed says so, I don't waste the few seconds appraising every nugget) and smelt/flux the lesser quality stuff. I'm not exactly hurting on any metal outside of the big 4 though, it probably just saves me a few volumes of platinum over time.
Kaeta Airtag
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>>But it can be wrong.-Starlear
For some reason, a lot of people's mining scripts seems to deed ores. I personally think it's stupid, I just carry it all in nugget/fragment/shard/lump form until such time as my 2 shovels go down to "good condition" and need fixing (about 6, 7, 8 full veins?), and then I take it in town to my forging character and smelt it all wholesale.
It HAS been useful for when I'm buying nuggets from people, as I pick out the 99 quality stuff (because the deed says so, I don't waste the few seconds appraising every nugget) and smelt/flux the lesser quality stuff. I'm not exactly hurting on any metal outside of the big 4 though, it probably just saves me a few volumes of platinum over time.
Kaeta Airtag
>>Actually an opinion cannot be changed or corrected. Nice try back of line.-VERATHOR
>>But it can be wrong.-Starlear
I'd like to see craft cases similer to spellbook cases with large compartments for product and tools and filing system compartments for books,deeds and packets. Customizable, lockable and verby, they would be a hit at the Hallows fest Adjustable wearing location would be a big plus too... Or, on the other hand, they could themselves be a craftable item.
