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Heyo!
Because I know there's going to be some confusion on this issue, here's the scoop on LISTEN <teacher> OBSERVE.
When you listen to a class normally under Teaching 2.0, you learn three skills. From highest exp to lowest, they will be the Subject, Scholarship, and Teaching.
If you use the LISTEN <teacher> OBS option instead, the order is reversed. From highest to lowest, Teaching, Scholarship, Subject.
Note that if teaching or scholarship is the subject of the class, you will only learn two skills at the standard rate. In short, if you are observing a teaching class you don't get Teaching + Scholarship + Teaching. You just get the Teaching + Scholarship, and lose the Subject experience since you already gained some.
What this means is that teaching classes on teaching is no longer necessary, and is in fact wasteful. If you want to learn teaching from someone else, have them teach any other subject and LISTEN OBSERVE the class. You'll learn teaching just as well as if they were teaching teaching, and you'll get a bit of the subject as well.
Hope this helps clarify some of the confusion I know some folks are feeling on that particular feature.
- GM Dartenian
"So he buckled right in with a trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried, he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled that thing
That couldn't be done and he did it."
- Edgar Guest
I'm not really sure what this was so I'll just post the log.
Jhime begins to lecture you on the proper usage of the Evasion skill.
To learn from him, you must LISTEN TO Jhime.
(LISTEN HELP for more options)
s>
Ysselt begins to listen to Jhime teach the Evasion skill.
s>listen jhi
Jhime isn't teaching a class.
s>listen to jhime
Jhime isn't teaching a class.
s>
Jhime begins to lecture you on the proper usage of the Evasion skill.
To learn from him, you must LISTEN TO Jhime.
(LISTEN HELP for more options)
s>listen to jhime
You begin to listen to Jhime teach the Evasion skill.
s>
Ghodbane begins to listen to Jhime teach the Evasion skill.
s>
Jhime stops trying to teach Evasion to you.
s>
You nod in understanding as Jhime fills you in on some of the obscure details of Evasion you desperately need to know.
Rev. Reene
"And if you should die explainin' how the things that they complain about
Are things they could be changin', who do you think's gonna care?"
Jhime begins to lecture you on the proper usage of the Evasion skill.
To learn from him, you must LISTEN TO Jhime.
(LISTEN HELP for more options)
s>
Ysselt begins to listen to Jhime teach the Evasion skill.
s>listen jhi
Jhime isn't teaching a class.
s>listen to jhime
Jhime isn't teaching a class.
s>
Jhime begins to lecture you on the proper usage of the Evasion skill.
To learn from him, you must LISTEN TO Jhime.
(LISTEN HELP for more options)
s>listen to jhime
You begin to listen to Jhime teach the Evasion skill.
s>
Ghodbane begins to listen to Jhime teach the Evasion skill.
s>
Jhime stops trying to teach Evasion to you.
s>
You nod in understanding as Jhime fills you in on some of the obscure details of Evasion you desperately need to know.
Rev. Reene
"And if you should die explainin' how the things that they complain about
Are things they could be changin', who do you think's gonna care?"
Heyo!
> I'm not really sure what this was so I'll just post the log.
Was this your first attempt to listen to a class after the old system went down, or had you successfully listened to classes under the new system previously?
- GM Dartenian
"So he buckled right in with a trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried, he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled that thing
That couldn't be done and he did it."
- Edgar Guest
> I'm not really sure what this was so I'll just post the log.
Was this your first attempt to listen to a class after the old system went down, or had you successfully listened to classes under the new system previously?
- GM Dartenian
"So he buckled right in with a trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried, he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled that thing
That couldn't be done and he did it."
- Edgar Guest
> I had successfully listened to a class after the changes and wasn't having any issues until that happened.
I think I found and fixed the problem. A classic Doh! moment.
- GM Dartenian
"So he buckled right in with a trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried, he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled that thing
That couldn't be done and he did it."
- Edgar Guest
I think I found and fixed the problem. A classic Doh! moment.
- GM Dartenian
"So he buckled right in with a trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried, he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled that thing
That couldn't be done and he did it."
- Edgar Guest
Seems like teaching Empathy may have a few bugs in it. Here it dropped my student, telling me he left.
>teach empath to tret
You begin to lecture Tretya on the proper use of the Empathy skill.
>chuck
You chuckle.
>
Tretya begins to listen to you teach the Empathy skill.
Your class is currently open. You may close it to all students by using TEACH CLOSE.
>
Tretya grins.
>ass teach
You assess the teaching environment...
You are teaching a class on Empathy which is still open to new students.
Your class includes:
Tretya
Roundtime: 5 seconds.
>
Tretya closes her eyes for a moment and grows still.
>
Zandari frowns.
>"That's always fun.
You say, "That's always fun."
>
* Gheist was just struck down!
>
Tretya blinks in puzzlement at Zandari.
>
Zandari says, "That's odd, I can't.."
>glan zand
You glance at Zandari, a female Elf.
>
Zandari says, "Zudyut is already teaching someone that skill, and cannot take another student.""
>
A gurgle and a swirling eddy in the water mark the spot where a fish's tail momentarily broke the water.
>"Can you observe?
You ask, "Can you observe?"
>
All of your students have left, so you stop teaching.
>
Zandari says, "That's what I'm trying to do."
>ass teach
You assess the teaching environment...
No one seems to be teaching.
Roundtime: 5 seconds.
>"Ah.
You say, "Ah."
>l
[Willow Walk, Fountain]
Randomly shaped leaves of verdigrised copper form a tall fountain in the middle of a large pool filled with water lilies, which is surrounded by a low garden of flowers and herbs that shifts in color with the seasons. Benches shaped of polished copperwood are scattered about, inviting the weary passerby to sit and be soothed by the music of the water trickling its random way down from one copper leaf to another into the surrounding pond. You also see some braided grass, a pool of black shadows, some braided grass, a Wayerd pyramid, some braided grass, an old button, a sprig of fairy fern, some braided grass and a large stone turtle with a hollow in its shell.
Also here: Visionist Zandari, Medical Examiner Tretya.
Obvious paths: north, northeast, east, southeast, south, southwest, west, northwest.
>
Tretya says, "Guild restriction, I assume"
>blink
You blink.
>"It said all my students left.
You say, "It said all my students left."
>
Tretya raises an eyebrow.
>
Tretya exclaims, "I didn't do anything!"
>teach empath to tret
You begin to lecture Tretya on the proper use of the Empathy skill.
>chuck
You chuckle.
>
Tretya begins to listen to you teach the Empathy skill.
Your class is currently open. You may close it to all students by using TEACH CLOSE.
>
Tretya grins.
>ass teach
You assess the teaching environment...
You are teaching a class on Empathy which is still open to new students.
Your class includes:
Tretya
Roundtime: 5 seconds.
>
Tretya closes her eyes for a moment and grows still.
>
Zandari frowns.
>"That's always fun.
You say, "That's always fun."
>
* Gheist was just struck down!
>
Tretya blinks in puzzlement at Zandari.
>
Zandari says, "That's odd, I can't.."
>glan zand
You glance at Zandari, a female Elf.
>
Zandari says, "Zudyut is already teaching someone that skill, and cannot take another student.""
>
A gurgle and a swirling eddy in the water mark the spot where a fish's tail momentarily broke the water.
>"Can you observe?
You ask, "Can you observe?"
>
All of your students have left, so you stop teaching.
>
Zandari says, "That's what I'm trying to do."
>ass teach
You assess the teaching environment...
No one seems to be teaching.
Roundtime: 5 seconds.
>"Ah.
You say, "Ah."
>l
[Willow Walk, Fountain]
Randomly shaped leaves of verdigrised copper form a tall fountain in the middle of a large pool filled with water lilies, which is surrounded by a low garden of flowers and herbs that shifts in color with the seasons. Benches shaped of polished copperwood are scattered about, inviting the weary passerby to sit and be soothed by the music of the water trickling its random way down from one copper leaf to another into the surrounding pond. You also see some braided grass, a pool of black shadows, some braided grass, a Wayerd pyramid, some braided grass, an old button, a sprig of fairy fern, some braided grass and a large stone turtle with a hollow in its shell.
Also here: Visionist Zandari, Medical Examiner Tretya.
Obvious paths: north, northeast, east, southeast, south, southwest, west, northwest.
>
Tretya says, "Guild restriction, I assume"
>blink
You blink.
>"It said all my students left.
You say, "It said all my students left."
>
Tretya raises an eyebrow.
>
Tretya exclaims, "I didn't do anything!"
