I would totally like being able to buy titles from guilds other than my own.

Joe:I'd like the Warrior Mage Title, please!
Gauthus: But, you're a Necromancer...
Joe: here's 100 plat.
Gauthus: Thanks mate. You're now Warrior Mage Joe.
Joe: yay!...

Joe rambles out singing... "I feel good..... you know that i should now....!"




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Oh and last one, DR at any given time has a population of weenies that will criticize at the drop of a hat, don't take things personally it happens to everyone.
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>> magic box bag idea

Price fixing would be weird on this since boxes give loot, scaled to whichever critter it's attuned to, and with enough boxes, you'd get a few superboxes, and then inflation and blah blah blah. Or the recharge price would be so expensive that you'd have to spend so much time hunting to get boxes to pop to get enough money to recharge it that it becomes a moot point. How about this instead (keep in mind that disarm and lockpicking are about to combine, negating the need for traps to disarm to move the skill)

A neck-worn magic locket/padlock on a chain that relocks itself every time it is closed (if it has charges), and is flexed to whoever last wore it.

I could (feasibly) see it as either an item with a ridiculous number of charges that can't be recharged (like 500 and then it's fluff), or an item with no charges and a short cooldown (pick it, close it, and fifteen minutes later it is locked again - enough so that it can supplement training and not be a perma-skill-locker), or an item with maybe a dozen charges that, when emptied, starts a riot-quest-length timer, at the end of which it gets fully recharged (i.e. you CAN use it to lock the skill, but only once every few days).

I feel like asking for a skill training item is acceptable (re: the magic humming/climbing rope, jugglies, etc.), but asking for one that gives out loot AND could feasibly last forever is asking a little much.

All that being said: magic locksmithing trainer idea for the win. I asked Patrick Stewart about it. He said to make it so.

>>Price fixing would be weird on this since boxes give loot, scaled to whichever critter it's attuned to, and with enough boxes, you'd get a few superboxes, and then inflation and blah blah blah.

Yeah i had thought of that as well - price point would have to be more than the boxes themselves would add up to - it's a convienence item. Could extend your idea of a flexed lock to the boxes the bag produces.

But I like your "skills are combining so why not just make a lock" idea as well - there is no death involved with lockpicking.

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>>I know it's rather silly, but I severely dislike the idea of items that have no other purpose than training.

I totally agree with you here.

>>the boat's long sailed on that,

and locks/disarm is one of the few non-combat skills that carries a risk of death if you want to train it at all. The skill should be able to feasibly train in conjunction with a non-combat-aligned stealth system. Which seems reasonable, since most stealth techniques have developed to avoid confrontation, historically. But that's another oyster entirely, and I digress.

Training items happen; I was just suggesting a way to fit one for this skill into something that might be balanced with the rest of the game.

Should it happen? Probably not. Will I quest for / buy one if it does? Yup!

I always thought homes were nothing but a decent plat sink. Since premie can own homes, how about if non-premie could rent them? Still have to buy furniture at regular prices, but pay for ownership and upkeep every month. Even Homeowner Association fees or something. A continuous plat sink, kind of like the upkeep on ships. Of course, its not the huge amount of several thousand plats continuously, but its a good start. Make home rentals something like 300 plat per month, or vary rental fees by 'market values' based on location, home type, etc.

>I know people have been clamoring for additional rooms or home forges (lookin at you Caraamon :P)

Damn the code, full speed ahead!

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>"if you lose it in any way" you get it back

Because investigating insurance fraud is how we want our GMs to spend their time? What would prevent you from handing it to a character on another account and then cashing in your policy?

Elemental Lord Opieus, Master Warrior Mage of Elanthia
"For a bunch of radical empiricists, the Philosophers' system relies on a whole lot of faith." ~Armifer

>The suggestion could be modified to - if the item is destroyed by the janitor or the system somehow. That's how most items get lost anyways.

That's probably a lot simpler, and more likely to happen.

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I remember as a warmie trying like crazy to save up enough for the next talisman. It was great. now the box rewards are nutz.

>> Tiger's post

Agree with most of it - still could use some plat sinks though, they are good whether the economy is over-inflated or not.

>>I think you may be on to something with lowering the money count. Let's get rid of two zeroes on every cost in the game. All coppers and bronzes are thrown out. Then all silvers become coppers, all golds become bronzes and all platinums become silvers.

That's an interesting idea - if done across the board is that fair? I guess it is right? You would have to slow down the coin intake before something like this would be carried out, otherwise it would just fill up very quickly again.

>>Snark aside, it's a good thing for low level characters to make money.

Of course. But I always liked when there were economic\purchase goals. I don't really have many purchasing goals now because I normally can just buy whatever I want with some super priced exceptions of course. I think I am sitting at like 12-13k plats right now which can buy almost anything I want except the super priced items. However that amount isn't that much considering I know a few people with over 100,000 plat, even one with over 600,000 plat. And I know several people that are hovering in the 40-60k plat range. I only know a small subsection of the population IG too.

>>It's not reasonable to expect everyone to spend all of their game time in hunting areas.

Eh the richest players are those that buy and sell products smartly IMO, coupled with other incomes. And they get super rich because other players have 1000's of plats to spend.

I know people will say it's all relative to the current economy (ie if we cut down plat in-flow it will still be the same dynamic) Not really. An example would be You can buy pretty much anything in any store in elanthia after a couple days of hunting gobs. You probably can get all forged gear after graduating from gobs which is pretty insane. Even if Tiger is over exaggerating, he is completely right, when I was a new character I started out with scrap leathers that didn't even cover my entire body because I couldn't afford anymore pieces. I remember having to save up for the crossing two-handed sword and being ecstatic when I finally got it heh.

One good thing underway is 3.0 which is slowing down hunting (hopefully I like it heh) but I am sure they won't even consider changing anything until after 3.0 and the dust settles. Which makes sense.

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Things I'd spend coin on:

Vacations--Just pick the destination and pay according to time of stay and destination. Give a choice of destination such as Taisdon just for the memories, a desert island with wonderful swimming and rowboat fun, mountain village with climbing and caves to explore, a bustling city with shops that allow you to customize basic clothing (color, fabric, materials, patterns, etc..) Of course the materials have to be bought from the shops and selections could randomly change. All creating more coin sinks. I could pick a destination based on what I wanted to do, what I wanted to see, or what I wanted to buy.

Additional vault space.


Boats to the islands and barges to Muspari--The boats to the island I'd pay coin to have boats that actually ran on schedule even if the riding time was still long. I'd pay if there were NPC's on the boats or barges that would teach selected subjects during the ride. Ask NPC for teach, list of subjects and prices he's able to teach for duration of the voyage/ride, pay 5 or 10 plat for whatever I wanted from what he was offering.


Give me a reason not to use travel scripts--Make carriages available between the cities that will take me from Crossing to Haven then Haven to Theren and then on the next city. It shouldn't be dreadfully slow but should disembark automatically when you arrive. Let me buy a season pass for travel for a reduced amount or just one trip at standard rate.

Token auctions...would pay a good bit to attend an auction where I had an equal chance of obtaining something nice even with the chance of not getting anything at all. Would want to know upfront that for this token auction there are 500 tokens being sold for 1k plat each with a pool of 25 auction items or 100 tickets sold for 5k each with a pool of 50 auction items...one per account purchase each auction. Just random numbers used for this example:)

Game mail system-- charge postage, charge user fee, charge what ever you like because the ability to communicate within the game is worth a lot. To be able to send off a message to a friend asking if he'll be around the next day to go to a lecture at the Academy just before I retire for the evening and upon logging in the next time having the answer available?...take my coins and sign me up!

Traders-Would love to see a game wide Trader listing where traders could post their shop contents or other items for sell that could be delivered via mail or hireling when purchased.

Traders shops-ability to accept orders from shoppers when the trader was not available...shopper could write a note asking if that particular shirt was available in green, when Trader reads note could respond with answer and could shopper reserve item for customer or customer could pay fee and have item delivered by hireling. (not sure of all the mechanics but thats the gist)

More lottery/raffle type money sinks. The gem box at the festival was outstanding. Different versions of the Maze random prize piles...if your raffle ticket is one of the 5 pulled you get one pick from the pile. Make different raffles price points with sample listings of what type prizes might be in each pile. Even on the cheapest give a really long shot at something great to keep folk buying tickets.

>What if crafters with lots of money (Hey Caraamon)

I have a lot of money? When did that happen?

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