evasion on 10/06/2009 11:29 PM CDT
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somebody please tell me what I'm missing
in sand sprites with 61 parry and shield and 62 evasion

Just standing here in under 10 minutes stanced for parry and evasion till parry is locked the changed to shield and evasion till shield is locked and evasion never moves past dabbling (1/34)

swap my stance over to 100% evasion and 0% for shield and parry and still stay at dabbling (1/34)

Why isn't my char learning evasion?
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Re: evasion on 10/06/2009 11:34 PM CDT
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>>swap my stance over to 100% evasion and 0% for shield and parry and still stay at dabbling (1/34)

Are you actually evading? What armor are you wearing? How many sprites are you dancing with? What is your MO.

Combat has many many many variables. More data is always better than less when it comes to combat questions.


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Also: Moo.
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Re: evasion on 10/06/2009 11:42 PM CDT
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light chain and multi are both at 61 varies between 2 and 4 sprites.
most of my dodges are fails actually the hits are all glancing or brushing so I'm getting away from most of it. Or my armor is taking it....
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Re: evasion on 10/06/2009 11:48 PM CDT
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>>most of my dodges are fails

This.



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Also: Moo.
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Re: evasion on 10/06/2009 11:49 PM CDT
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so why is it my char has such a harder time dodging here than parrying or blocking with a shield dodge is trained a rank higher but fails almost utterly
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Re: evasion on 10/06/2009 11:52 PM CDT
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Evasion is hindered by more things than parry and shield.



Rev. Reene

"Shard by shard she rearranges the world.
It looks the same, she says, but it is not.
It looks as they expect, but it is not."
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Re: evasion on 10/06/2009 11:54 PM CDT
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http://elanthipedia.com/wiki/Combat

Read it. Study it. Learn it. Live it.

Because that's how combat works is the short answer. As I said, combat is complex. If you wish to spend any time in it, that is a good starting point.



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Also: Moo.
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Re: evasion on 10/06/2009 11:55 PM CDT
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Your hindrance is too high. You won't learn evasion particularly well until your hindrance decreases. You could take some of your armor off when you want to train evasion until you get more armor ranks.
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Re: evasion on 10/07/2009 01:20 AM CDT
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Reduce your hindrance, your encumbrance and increase your evasion stance. If you are failing to evade properly, you will fail to learn Evasion properly.

You might try removing some pieces of armor and removing ALL extraneous items on your character. Even a few stones of extra weight can impact your Evasion negatively.

Also, try increasing your Reflex or your Strength/Stamina if you are overburdened.

GENT
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Re: evasion on 10/07/2009 02:01 AM CDT
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>> Even a few stones of extra weight can impact your Evasion negatively.

They fixed the bug where any weight was hindering your evasion. Now your burden only hinders you if it actually shows up as light or above, but not as none. (iirc.)



Rev. Reene

"Shard by shard she rearranges the world.
It looks the same, she says, but it is not.
It looks as they expect, but it is not."
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Re: evasion on 10/07/2009 02:39 AM CDT
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>>They fixed the bug where any weight was hindering your evasion. Now your burden only hinders you if it actually shows up as light or above, but not as none. (iirc.)

Good to know! I've always been obsessed about lowering burden.

GENT
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Re: evasion on 10/07/2009 05:33 AM CDT
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The other thing you'll find when it comes to evasion learning is that natural 4 legged critters teach evasion REALLY well, whereas two legged humanoid weapon wielding critters teach parry much much better... evasion? Not so much.

At those ranks, beisswurms or bone wolves will teach evasion better than sand sprites.


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Re: evasion on 10/07/2009 10:05 AM CDT
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>>so why is it my char has such a harder time dodging here than parrying or blocking with a shield dodge is trained a rank higher but fails almost utterly

>Evasion is hindered by more things than parry and shield.

True. Also, when you partially evade it reduces the attack to where it can be parried easily. You can't parry first and then dodge, however.
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Re: evasion on 10/07/2009 03:51 PM CDT
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Sand sprites are terrible for learning Evasion. Poster DGUTHRIE2's advice is the same as what I'd say.
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