>>>Should I keep plugging my tdp's into intell, or pay more attention to something else? Anyone have any advice other than "take more breaks"?

The short answer is that intellegence and, to a lesser extent, discipline control the size of the experience pool. If you have problems with locking too fast, then raise INT primarily and DISC.

Wisdom controls how much is taken out of the pool and converted to ranks at each pulse. If you have problems staying locked too long and not pulsing down quick enough, raise WIS.

The long answer can be found by starting at the beginning of this folder and reading pretty much everything and checking out the web sites that are mentioned in the various posts.

You've got low enough stats at this point that the really short answer is "take regular breaks when you get too full and raise INT as you can afford to, but not to the exclusion of al the other stats", because every stat helps different areas. At this point in your character's life, it's a juggling act with stats. It eases off a bit later on when it takes a 5 point jump in a stat to really make a noticable difference.

Dave

Correction, was confused as to which folder I was replying to. Take a look at the Abilities, Skills, and Magic folder and read all the postings in The Experience System.

Dave

So wisdom not only controls how often the pulses go, but also how much is included in each pulse?


"And though she be but little, she is fierce."

As someone with extremely high mentals, I have to say Galren is correct. Even with 99 in all mentals you would still easily fry your mind if you don't train well.

On offense, what this means is not training weapons past dazed.

On defense, this means making sure you're learning multi to get the mindstate protection. Once multi is locked you need to switch to a ranged weapon or TM, or just take a break.

>So wisdom not only controls how often the pulses go,

Pulse time is static for everyone.

I think the best mentals strategy is to train whichever costs less TDPs, wisdom or intel. As a gnome this means your intel will be much higher, which is fine. Don't train discipline for the EXP benefit, train it for other reasons.

>>>On offense, what this means is not training weapons past dazed.
>>>On defense, this means making sure you're learning multi to get the mindstate protection. Once multi is locked you need to switch to a ranged weapon or TM, or just take a break.

This is probably the best advice over all. Make sure you're training a ranged weapon or two along side your melee weapons, keeping them close so you can use both sets on the same quarry. When your melee weapon pools get full, your defense pools are probably going to be full too. Retreat back to missle and work your ranged weapons (and/or TM if your guild requires magics), staying back at missle and pole range while your melee and defense skills drain off to more comfortable levels. Switch back and forth between killing styles as needed to maintain an even keel.

The above is just my opinion and assumes that you want to spend the primary amount of your in-game time hunting, which seems reasonable given the wording of your original post.

Dave

I was under the impression that diminishing returns from wisdom began past 30, making it less and less worthwhile to train. I have let it sit at 30 for that reason.

Actually, there was never a number where wisdom pulled ahead of intel, it depends on the skillset and the number of ranks, and the TDP cost.

However, the exp system was recently tweaked and wisdom's progression was made more linear. But feel free to sit on your 30 wisdom.

>However, the exp system was recently tweaked and wisdom's progression was made more linear.

Don't you have this backwards? I'm pretty sure Wisdom stayed the same but Discipline and Intelligence were moved to the curve function so that you now get less benefit per point from all three as they get higher. Either has the same effect - you no longer get more "bang" for your TDP buck by training only Int past 35.

~ Sage Kougen Aensworth, Star Shaper of the Compact

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<<I'm pretty sure Wisdom stayed the same but Discipline and Intelligence were moved to the curve function so that you now get less benefit per point from all three as they get higher.>>

>>That was what I recalled. I am searching for the GM post.

I recall this as well. Just to be more specific, I believe that the above information related only to experience gain--in other words, any of those stats may act in a more linear fashion for other skills, contests, or abilities (another reason not to ignore Wisdom post-30).

~player of Gulphphunger

>Discipline and Intelligence were moved to the curve function so that you now get less benefit per point from all three as they get higher.

This certainly is the case.

I looked for confirmation on what I said about wisdom, but none of it is in the official announcement, it must have been posted in general discussions. So I suppose it is possible that I imagined it, although I don't think I did.

In any case, neglecting wisdom is not a wise (haha) longterm strategy. In TF I have been able to catch up and pass people that had months or even a year head start on me partly due to my mental training:

Discipline : 80
Wisdom : 91
Intelligence : 99

You know, I had that philosophy at first too Gent, but I don't see it that way any more. I only recommend training mentals when you can easily mindlock the skills that are important to you. Luckily for moon mages, it really only takes a little reflex and discipline to get by.