Zinaca is 80? you kept saying how your char's a baby i thought I outleveled you a lot by now lol

IM me at unboundbyrules let's compare stats/skill/strats. My thief is circle 86 and wears full leather as well. I don't feel I get stunned very much since 30-something circle (and IIRC Zinaca was 30~40 back then)


I'll add to the hearsay that I've heard discipline helped with stuns and have at some points explicitly trained discipline for that purpose on young chars.

Huge possibility here:

You are in all-leather gear? Do you notice you are getting stunned on the hands and in the eyes a disproportionate number of times?

Having tried this on both a Ranger and a Barbarian, I would heavily advise you to switch to a chain helm and chain gloves. For whatever reason, these areas seem to be extremely vulnerable to stuns, and moving up a single notch on the armor ladder for something with better absorption solved 95% of the problem for me.

Reflex should be high in general so if you want a stat, train that. I would be willing to bet it's an armor problem though. High Ranger bonus, hiding ranks, and spells should easily offset any stealth penalty you encounter for wearing chain accessories.

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I think high stamina might help resist stuns, but not lower stun duration.


Your head and hands are much more likely to cause a stun so make sure you have good tanned accessories.

>>but I want to say she's got some laptop from the early 80's the way she's talked about it.

I really didn't even think they had laptops in the early 80s so I did a search.

http://www.laptoprepair.ie/laptophistory.htm

hahahaha, I can just see soemone trying to play DR on these things.
My bet is that its her dial up connection.




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You folks are baaaad, trashing my laptop like that! ::rubs her classic laptop fondly::

But actually I got gifted a netbook that is wireless capable. So I've been playing with that, using wireless connections.

I'm not saying the stuns cause the freeze though. Just seems like the game freezes just as the stuns occur.

The stunning wounds occur most often on my chest! What can I say...I got big boobs but I wear a hunting bra.

Thank you folks so much for all your advice. I will train more disc strength and stamina and see if that helps.

Also, I do tend to play hurt but I constantly eat herbs but perhaps it just a matter of quitting while I'm ahead kind of thing?

Another thing I was thinking as I remembered about being 40th (thank you unboundbyrules) that perhaps it's just an in between phase. I recall when I hit circle 38th to 45th, things were way hard. Everything was hard to train, and hunting was hard as I kept dying all the time. Once I hit 45th, all that went away.

Anyways, this is way more info you folks prolly wanted.

Zinaca and her wolf, Lucky, who doesn't care beans about stuns as long as she gets her milk on time

PS and lay off my laptop! It's a classic and I'm gonna preserve it. Who knows someday it might be worth something (boy do I wish I had kept all my record albums...I had the Euro white album of the Beatles and I could have retired on that one alone)

>I got gifted a netbook that is wireless capable. So I've been playing with that, using wireless connections.

This sends up a red-flag for me. Depending on how your wireless is configured intermittent connection drops and lag-spikes could easily be traced to this. Someone with more experience with windows boxes might be able to help you figure out if this is the problem.

> PS and lay off my laptop! It's a classic and I'm gonna preserve it. Who knows someday it might be worth something

I was reading a statistic on teh interwebz (so it must be true) that went along the lines of "More then half the computers in american homes are unused/old, and if these (packrats) people would actually thrown them away we'd have a crisis b/c of all the toxic chemicals in them." So there you go Zinaca, hanging onto that old piece of junk is good for the environment (hippy).

~Hunter Hanryu
http://drplat.com/CombatEquipmentCompendium.xls
http://tinyurl.com/HanryuTanning

>>Grim45 mentioned about how wireless can get garbled because of other routers around. To (possibly) fix this go into your router config and change the wireless channel from the default. Change it to 11 or something instead of 6. I did this and my router started working great.

Good rule of thumb. Additional info about it. Channels 1, 6 and 11 are the only "non-overlapping channels". That is 1 doesn't overlap with 6, which doesn't overlap with 11. 2,3,4,5 all overlap with 1 and 6, 7,8,9,10 all overlap with 6 & 11. 6 is the most common channel that those who don't change their channel are on. So you really need to see 2 things when picking a channel. 1. What other channels are in use around you, and 2. What is their relative strength. IF you have only one other user using say channel 11, 7 on channel 6 and 3 on channel 1, but the 1 user on channel 11 is a REALLY strong signal, whereas the others on channel 1, are all relatively weak, it may be better to use channel 1.

You also get those tho use the "in between" channels. which then overlap with both 1 & 6, or 6 & 11.

Anyways this has gotten WAY WAY off topic from training characters, so feel free to e-mail me if you have questions about any of it.

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Also: Moo.

>It could be. My wireless Linksys died the other day and I got a new one and it was doing the same thing.....freeze then massive scroll.

There are quite a few downsides to wireless.

Expounding on (and agreeing with) the technical mumbojumbo Grim45 said, and hopefully clarifying it a bit, wireless is generally slower than wired, and more finicky. Wireless is half-duplex (send or receive), whereas wired ethernet can be full-duplex (send and receive).

Since wireless devices are not separated onto different cables to prevent collisions (2 or more devices transmitting at the same time in overlapping frequency ranges), collisions can always happen. When this happens with wireless, none of the transmitted signals can be understood by the receiver. Furthering this problem, since wireless is half-duplex, a transmitting device is not able to listen for received data concurrently. So, when two devices transmit at the same time in overlapping frequency ranges (collision), neither device has any way of knowing the collision occured.

This is what Grim45 was referring to when he mentioned the CSMA/CA algorithm (the CA stands for Collision Avoidance). CSMA/CA reduces the statistical chance for a collision, but doesn't outright prevent it. So, with wireless, each device requires an acknowledgement of every frame sent in order to be certain the sent frame was received. If no acknowledgement is received, the device assumes the frame collided and will resend it, again, using CSMA/CA logic. This can result in your "freeze and then scroll" scenario (knew I'd get to the point eventually). So, yeah, for games like DR, wireless bad, wired better.

Anyway, on topic, train discipline. It is good.

Yeah, that's basically what I was trying to say.

And train discipline.

Unfortunately, the delicious, delicious siren song of burritos is irresistible.

AFK, Burritos.

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The guard stares at you and swears. The guard says, "I do not see why you even bother living."

<<So what should my MO be to handle bristly peccs, and young, fledgling gryphons safely?

Hard to give an accurate value there but i'd guess somewhere around 270 to be relatively safe in all leather with SOP and SOTT up.


If you want to hunt something exotic on the islands, i recommend nipoh oshu. They'll teach you better than gryphons up to around low 300s in defenses and wont kill you. They dont drop boxes and are not skinnable but, for me, they served as a bridge from black leucros to gryphons perfectly.

If you decide to try them, here's some important info:

They live in a dark cave so you wont be able to see the rooms. The 2 rooms that have light are bad in terms of life mana.
You'll want to try the harder ones (to the north of the curtain) and, if these are too hard, try the ones to the northeast of the curtain.
There's milk in town for Lucky. Grab a picnic basket in the flower and shop and fill it up with milk in the backroom of the same shop.
The loot is great too. Around 1 gold kronar from every kill in the north area and they swarm. Bring gem pouches!

Thank you for the ideas...I think I might be heading to the islands soon then. Guess I screwed up emphasizing the stealth skills a bit too much.

Note to self, backtrain MO and shield.

Zinaca and her wolf, Lucky (wish we could send our wolves to scout for milk) : D

Strength : 18 Reflex : 18
Agility : 18 Charisma : 10
Discipline : 16 Wisdom : 12
Intelligence : 12 Stamina : 18

Looking to allocate some TDPs in the next few circles but unsure where to place them. Armor is leather and shield with LE,LX,LT,Offhand as weapons. Haven't hit min RT with the LE yet. I don't have hindrance unless I get a huge bundle or fill up on boxes and race is Halfling. Any help is greatly appreciated.

<<Common practice is to get all stats to at least 20 before specializing.

Yeah. The boost you get from each single point in any stat at lower levels is really worth the effort.

Without knowing your guild we can't really give great help for later on. Since you're an halfling i'm going to assume a survival primary guild and suggest you focus on agility and reflex. Discipline and stamina shouldn't be neglected, tho. In fact, dont neglect any :D

Someone told me I should try focusing on getting reflex to 30 first.

This was very good advice.

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Xalahai says to you, "Don't you know me? I'm Jhipicalain, the awesomest warrior mage ever."
Xalahai says, "Then I will go hide in my tower where nobody can get to me. Because I am the greatest. Ever."