Defensive Stance Tactics on 03/13/2007 05:46 PM CDT
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Hi,
I want to train all three defenses (evasion, parry, and shield), but I was told that I shouldn't try to train all 3 at the same time (ie 60% in each). Instead, I should train two at a time - shield & evasion, then switch to parry & evasion when shield is locked, etc.

I was wondering if that was true, and if it is, then why?

Thanks.
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Re: Defensive Stance Tactics on 03/13/2007 06:10 PM CDT
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Keep in mind that my opinions are purely based on TF training styles.

Shield should always be @ 100 and the remaining points in ur secondary defense. Then swap secondary defenses. The reason I say always keep 100 in shield is that it will lag behind as the others (evasion/parry) will come naturally from training weapons/defenses.

Never let them fall too far behind as you will regret it.

Shield Usage: 357 55.72% clear <--- see what I mean
Parry Ability: 380 73.37% clear
Evasion: 378 87.87% clear


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Re: Defensive Stance Tactics on 03/13/2007 09:41 PM CDT
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This is my setup for stances.

ATTACK={ 100% parry, 87% evasion, 0% shield, 100% attack}

PARRY={ 100% parry, 100% evasion, 0% shield, 0% attack}

SHIELD={ 100% shield, 100% evasion, 0% parry, 0% attack}

CUSTOM={ 100% shield, 87% evasion, 0% parry, 100% attack}

I then cycle through the stances depending on what I'm doing. I manage to train all major defenses just like Denz.


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Re: Defensive Stance Tactics on 03/14/2007 04:20 PM CDT
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Someone needs to update his stances to take advantage of his extra stance points...

You should be able to get like 100% in two defenses and still have 30 or 35% left in attack or a third defense.

I am --- Navak
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Re: Defensive Stance Tactics on 03/14/2007 06:51 PM CDT
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Yeah I was just going from memory. When I do 0 attack I always get 100/100/30 in my defenses. I was mistaken.

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Re: Defensive Stance Tactics on 03/16/2007 04:38 AM CDT
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>>Never let them fall too far behind as you will regret it.

>Shield Usage: 357 55.72% clear <--- see what I mean
>Parry Ability: 380 73.37% clear
>Evasion: 378 87.87% clear

Ha, you call that far behind?


Shield Usage: 3XX 15.97% learning
Parry Ability: 5XX 61.10% clear
Evasion: 5XX 31.38% learning

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Re: Defensive Stance Tactics on 03/16/2007 06:34 AM CDT
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Well well! I see SOMEONE ignored the teachings of The Bear!

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Re: Defensive Stance Tactics on 03/16/2007 08:04 AM CDT
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Thanks for the responses, although I'm not completely certain I understand. Is there a certain sequence in which one's defenses are "checked" against the attack to see if you successfully defend? If so, what is that sequence? It appears to be 1. evasion, 2. parry, 3. shield. Is there a way to change that sequence?

And is the above sequencing the reason why using multiple defenses can cause problems? For instance, if I were to have points in all three, but the attacks never got past my parry, would I never learn any shield?

Thanks.
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Re: Defensive Stance Tactics on 03/17/2007 12:31 AM CDT
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1 will always be evasion.
2 will be parry or shield, whichever currently has more effective ranks which can no longer be determined by just typing stance.
3 is whatever else is left

Combat messaging does not have to match the order of the checks, it has its own issues.

I am --- Navak
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