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<<As I have said numerous times before, I'm much more prone to abandon item-based bonuses than expand on them too much. I tend to disagree with the very concept of them. That said, I'm comfortable with where war paint is as a concept right now. It needs a few tweaks, yes, but it is neither a priority nor something that will see any kind of extensive rewriting.>>
The situation is must different if it is a system that can be created by PCs. Then it still fits into the motif of something a Barbarian can create with their own two hands. Just some food for thought.
- Simon
Re: Where to buy Warpaint? on 06/14/2009 10:30 PM CDT
Re: Where to buy Warpaint? on 06/15/2009 12:18 AM CDT
>>Now you, on the other hand, are attacking me after I already agreed to your viewpoint. THAT is arguing for the sake of arguing.
I wasn't. It just appeared that you flipped your tune by changing from permanent to just more availability. If not, then it was a misunderstanding. Good stuff.
With that said...
>>As I have said numerous times before, I'm much more prone to abandon item-based bonuses than expand on them too much. I tend to disagree with the very concept of them. That said, I'm comfortable with where war paint is as a concept right now. It needs a few tweaks, yes, but it is neither a priority nor something that will see any kind of extensive rewriting.
I agree 100%.
Vinjince
I wasn't. It just appeared that you flipped your tune by changing from permanent to just more availability. If not, then it was a misunderstanding. Good stuff.
With that said...
>>As I have said numerous times before, I'm much more prone to abandon item-based bonuses than expand on them too much. I tend to disagree with the very concept of them. That said, I'm comfortable with where war paint is as a concept right now. It needs a few tweaks, yes, but it is neither a priority nor something that will see any kind of extensive rewriting.
I agree 100%.
Vinjince
Re: Where to buy Warpaint? on 06/15/2009 06:17 PM CDT
>>nor something that will see any kind of extensive rewriting.>>
>The situation is must different if it is a system that can be created by PCs. Then it still fits into the motif of something a Barbarian can create with their own two hands. Just some food for thought.
I should think that switching warpaint to a player created system would fall under the aforementioned taboo extensive rewriting. Some dessert for thought.
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>The situation is must different if it is a system that can be created by PCs. Then it still fits into the motif of something a Barbarian can create with their own two hands. Just some food for thought.
I should think that switching warpaint to a player created system would fall under the aforementioned taboo extensive rewriting. Some dessert for thought.
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Re: Where to buy Warpaint? on 06/15/2009 07:42 PM CDT
Re: Where to buy Warpaint? on 06/18/2009 06:40 PM CDT
Re: Where to buy Warpaint? on 06/18/2009 06:42 PM CDT
Stocking up on Warpaint on 11/08/2009 05:12 PM CST
So I want to stock up on some warpaint before the festival closes down, but I'm not sure which type I should get. I know that Plunderer is the highest quality, but going by Phii's site the only difference I can see between Plunderer and Berserker is the Discipline boost. Does a temporary Discipline boost help with dances at all? For some reason I've been thinking that only current concentration applies to the duration/power of a dance. Are there any other Barbariany things that Discipline helps?
Also, for finding your personal location/symbol combination does the lowest quality warpaint work just fine? I don't want to bother wasting the good stuff if cheap stuff will work just fine for that. And, do you get the messaging when you find either the right symbol or location, or do you have to have both correct to see the messaging?
Also, for finding your personal location/symbol combination does the lowest quality warpaint work just fine? I don't want to bother wasting the good stuff if cheap stuff will work just fine for that. And, do you get the messaging when you find either the right symbol or location, or do you have to have both correct to see the messaging?
Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 11/13/2009 12:05 PM CST
2 effects:
The more expensive the paint, the longer it will last, and the more options you'll have. Also, the disciplin bonus will apply to dances.
As for "special location," the testing I've done has led me to believe it's a completely random effect, as I couldn't get the messaging again even using the same stick, location, and symbol. I've also gotten the message with several different combinations.
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The more expensive the paint, the longer it will last, and the more options you'll have. Also, the disciplin bonus will apply to dances.
As for "special location," the testing I've done has led me to believe it's a completely random effect, as I couldn't get the messaging again even using the same stick, location, and symbol. I've also gotten the message with several different combinations.
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Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 11/13/2009 12:16 PM CST
Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 11/14/2009 11:40 AM CST
Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 11/14/2009 01:13 PM CST
You kept track? I can't imagine I would have that many...
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Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 11/14/2009 03:30 PM CST
For location/design, I found the location (face) by accident, then wrote a script to go through all the possible designs until I got the special messaging for the ideal design (vertical lines). It took a couple cycles and several sticks of basic paint, since the messaging doesn't even show up every time. At the time I was extremely thankful it wasn't pawprints on the cheeks or something.
I'll echo the sentiment that the system needs work.
Laniea came through some massive doors.
Laniea appears to be aiming at Mesanna with her forester's crossbow.
You praise Laniea's efforts, supporting her with your approval.
I'll echo the sentiment that the system needs work.
Laniea came through some massive doors.
Laniea appears to be aiming at Mesanna with her forester's crossbow.
You praise Laniea's efforts, supporting her with your approval.
Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 11/14/2009 04:01 PM CST
Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 11/14/2009 08:27 PM CST
Work, not a rewrite. Allowing pattern selection instead of making it random and removing the apparently incorrect "location fires you with confidence" messaging would be two steps in the right direction.
Laniea came through some massive doors.
Laniea appears to be aiming at Mesanna with her forester's crossbow.
You praise Laniea's efforts, supporting her with your approval.
Laniea came through some massive doors.
Laniea appears to be aiming at Mesanna with her forester's crossbow.
You praise Laniea's efforts, supporting her with your approval.
Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 11/16/2009 05:56 PM CST
Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 11/16/2009 06:08 PM CST
<<Allowing pattern selection instead of making it random and removing the apparently incorrect "location fires you with confidence">>
Yep, I agree on that.
Warpaint is a system that is on the low end of the totem pole from what I understand. Roars, dances, berserks, BMR, meditations and Barbarian lore (Aurdun's specialty!) are somewhat near the top as far as Barbarians go from the last time Aurdun mentioned what was being worked on.
- Simon
Yep, I agree on that.
Warpaint is a system that is on the low end of the totem pole from what I understand. Roars, dances, berserks, BMR, meditations and Barbarian lore (Aurdun's specialty!) are somewhat near the top as far as Barbarians go from the last time Aurdun mentioned what was being worked on.
- Simon
Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 11/16/2009 10:56 PM CST
2465 runestones DESTROYED!
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Magic's Death Caraamon Makdasi,
Gor'Tog Barbarian
Hunta Talna Kortok, built by Gor'Togs, for Gor'Togs
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg2/caraamon/home.html
Blunts for Sale:
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Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 11/17/2009 09:42 AM CST
Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 11/17/2009 02:57 PM CST
You ask Aurdun really nicely to look up the counter that's invisible to players and then start keeping track manually.
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Gor'Tog Barbarian
Hunta Talna Kortok, built by Gor'Togs, for Gor'Togs
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg2/caraamon/home.html
Blunts for Sale:
http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/User:Caraamon#Wares
Magic's Death Caraamon Makdasi,
Gor'Tog Barbarian
Hunta Talna Kortok, built by Gor'Togs, for Gor'Togs
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg2/caraamon/home.html
Blunts for Sale:
http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/User:Caraamon#Wares
Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 11/17/2009 03:21 PM CST
Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 11/17/2009 05:15 PM CST
Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 11/18/2009 05:14 AM CST
If your feeling generous I wouldn't mind seeing what I am at as well....
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Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 11/18/2009 10:28 PM CST
Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 11/19/2009 06:15 AM CST
Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 12/05/2009 05:38 AM CST
Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 12/05/2009 12:20 PM CST
Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 12/05/2009 03:11 PM CST
Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 12/05/2009 05:00 PM CST
Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 12/05/2009 05:33 PM CST
Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 12/05/2009 05:42 PM CST
Exactly, that's just one of the issues. You don't need a boost for boosting. What was up with the redundancy of it being implemented? This is an issue with many of the Barbarian systems. What's the point of some of the berserks when you can achieve the same or similar boosts from dancing?
- Simon
- Simon
Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 12/05/2009 05:56 PM CST
I wouldn't mind seeing some utility from it. Scaring away familiars and so forth would be great. Using it to determine how much our opponent fears us to see if we can roar them (especially after the roar rewrite) would be great. Kind of like an intimidation thing similar to Mark for Thieves.
Vinjince Rexem'lor
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Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 12/05/2009 06:38 PM CST
Warpaint as a perk is okay IMO. One thing I don't like is that it fades on its own regardless of use however. I would probably utilize warpaint a lot more if this weren't the case. Obviously it is going to have to be scrapped if roars are being nerfed down hopefully we can get something back though. If it is an item # issue why not make paintsticks combineable into a brick. Then a barb could carve off a chunk to carry with him/her for use in the field. Same thing with shark's teeth make some sort of dispenser.
Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 12/05/2009 08:18 PM CST
Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 12/05/2009 08:24 PM CST
>>I hope roars aren't nerfed. They are pretty poor as is. They help early on, but right now if I use a roar once a month, it's a lot. Only thing I do less than roar is berserk.<<
Same.
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Same.
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Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 12/05/2009 08:37 PM CST
Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 12/05/2009 08:44 PM CST
I used to use wail alot....a couple are pretty useful. I completely stopped using wail once it was implemented to reduce experience gain...plus the immobolized affect isn't the defensive penalty it used to be.
Alot of their effects last so short why even bother. You can't spar with them except under certain circumstances that never happen. Over half of them are pointless or do nothing..
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Alot of their effects last so short why even bother. You can't spar with them except under certain circumstances that never happen. Over half of them are pointless or do nothing..
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Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 12/05/2009 08:47 PM CST
>I used to use wail alot....a couple are pretty useful. I completely stopped using wail once it was implemented to reduce experience gain...plus the immobolized affect isn't the defensive penalty it used to be.
>Alot of their effects last so short why even bother. You can't spar with them except under certain circumstances that never happen. Over half of them are pointless or do nothing..
See, I have the complete opposite problem. Wail last way too long for me. Roaring with full voice I end up keeping 5-6 celps immobilized for 20-25 seconds. That allows me to prevent them from searching, but nerfs my weapon experience for the duration.
In summary, everything intimidation-related needs work.
>Alot of their effects last so short why even bother. You can't spar with them except under certain circumstances that never happen. Over half of them are pointless or do nothing..
See, I have the complete opposite problem. Wail last way too long for me. Roaring with full voice I end up keeping 5-6 celps immobilized for 20-25 seconds. That allows me to prevent them from searching, but nerfs my weapon experience for the duration.
In summary, everything intimidation-related needs work.
Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 12/05/2009 08:56 PM CST
Re: Stocking up on Warpaint on 12/06/2009 12:15 PM CST