Medmaev, as told by a respectable Bard on 07/08/2010 04:56 PM CDT
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(This was told to me by Siltoth, who's been an amazing Bard for as long as I can remember. There is NO info on Elanthipedia about Medmaev directly, so I also posted it there. Link at the bottom of the page.)

Medmaev - Elothean Male Bard, story below

Siltoth asks, "Clear as far as we can tell?"

You nod at Siltoth, in complete agreement with his views.

You lean forward.

Siltoth says, "The reason I didn't want to speak out there was because Medmaev was once a songsworn, and not just a songsworn, he reached the position of leading the songsworn."

Siltoth says, "You know, there was a time before either of us joined the guild, when it was still young after being restored, and let's say, the powers at be did not quite agree on the path to take."

Siltoth asks, "Our now beloved Karovaas?"

You ask, "Is that when Siryn and Karovaas were struggling to see who lead the guild in what direction?"

Siltoth says, "I believe Siryn was already dead at that point, I could be wrong, but I think it was the "newer" guildleaders."

Siltoth says, "And yes, they did not see eye to eye with Karovaas, who has his own faction."

You ask, "Ahh, ok. But it was Siryn's path basically?"

Siltoth nods.

You ask, "Do you know what his vision was?"

Siltoth says, "Karovaas from what I understand was more bent on learning power, apperantly by any means necessary, and he balked at little."

Siltoth says, "I believe there was some sort of attempt to gain knowledge of some means that were either sorcerous, or perhaps even necormantic."

Siltoth says, "I could probably dig into that to find out the exact details."

You say, "No need."

Siltoth says, "But something triggered the outbreak, and Karovaas and a few of his supporters were forced to flee."

You say, "That's a scarey thought, how different our guild could be today." Siltoth nods.

Siltoth says, "What happend in the middle is scary as well."

Siltoth says, "Most of us know the end, his supporters were slain and he was imprisoned for a long time."

You nod to Siltoth.

Siltoth says, "But up until the events surrounding the return of Medmaev, most of us didn't know that one of Karovaas' followers was Medmaep, Medmaev's brother, and not just a brother..."

Siltoth says, "A twin."

You ask, "Was he prominent at that time?"

Siltoth says, "Medmaev was the one leading the songsworn who slain Karovaas' followers one by one and eventually captured Karovaas. He has slain his own twin brother by orders of the guild."

Siltoth says, "They wanted Karovaas to stop causing trouble. Medmaev killed his own brother... Medmaep."

Siltoth says, "So if you want to side track to the philosophical debate, was the good of the guild worth pitting one brother to such a terrible task? Even if the one brother was horribly wrong? History might say that the price has been too high."

Siltoth says, "However, not long after slaying his brother Medmaev disappeared and was considered dead... until... he suddenly returned."

Siltoth says, "There were visions... moon mages saw him bursting out of the ground, literally, as if returning from the dead. That led me to some suspicion, but let's go back to the story."

Siltoth says, "When Medmaev returned he was quite out of his mind, he began constructing a device... out of bardic bones and body parts, and more important... captured bard essences."

You say, "That's how sentient instruments were first created, using the spirits of a dead Bard."

Siltoth says, "This was quite different however, He would capture bards and through some sort of ritual of taking their parts, trap their spirtis within the device."

Siltoth says, "At first we didn't know what was happening, he tested the prgress of the device, when activated, it stunned bards everywhere for a short time."

Siltoth says, "That was when it was incomplete."

Siltoth says, "He also coupled with Yalleck, who has a fascination for our music box. That got him soldiers and a way to harrass us."

Siltoth says, "And we had intruders sneaking through the hall."

Siltoth says, "No, that happend earlier. Yalleck died a couple of times during this attempt, but survived to try and work something a few years later with Medmaev."

Siltoth says, "I believe he was either taking advantage, trying to figure out a new way to get the music box, or he was somehow responsible for the resurfacing of Medmaev."

Siltoth says, "Anyway, at some point we figured out what was happening, the device when complete, was supposed to render bards completely vulnerable everywhere, thus allowing anyone to easily dispatch of them."

Siltoth says, "That was to be Medmaev's revenge."

You say, "I'm so glad I wasn't anywhere nearby when any of this happened, but all the poor Bards.." You frown.

Siltoth nods.

Siltoth says, "One of the songsworn, played bait, and when Medmaev captured her and started the ritual at his secret location, we followed."

Siltoth says, "It was the height of the outcast war and his lair was in dragon spine mountains... we searched for a long time but this time we found it."

Siltoth says, "And killed him."

Siltoth says to you, "It could not be helped."

You say, "It doesn't sound like it."

You sigh.

Siltoth says, "The device was almost complete, we were at a loss of how to destroy it."

Siltoth says, "Then someone said sing, and we all just started to sing."

Siltoth says, "I remember it vibrating in a strange way, then suddenly it was destroyed, the essences of the bards released."

You ask, "Did it explode..or what?"

Siltoth says, "Something like that... I do not recall exactly how it actually crumbled."

Siltoth says, "The picture is not clear in my mind."

You ask, "Then what happened?"

Siltoth says, "Medmaev's things were gathered and we brought them back here... he had very few possessions."

Siltoth says, "One of his lackies, a traitor bard who was imprisoned at some point at Karovaas' old cell disappeared... he had an interesting story later on how he managed it."

You ask, "Do you remember who?"

Siltoth ponders.

Siltoth says, "I'll have to try to remember the name but he was an elf."

You ask, "So basically, Medmaev kwas forced to kill his brother when trying to stop Karovaas and went psychotic?"

You ask, "Trying to build some sick device to disable Bards so they could then be killed?"

Siltoth says, "He was seen walking about freely later. He claimed to have been forced to act as he did by Medmaev, who trapped his soul in some way to the device. I found that explanation a little to convenient."

Siltoth says, "And yes, you got it, that's basically how it happend."

Siltoth asks, "So here's the the dilema, what if nobody stopped Karovaas? Would it be worse?"

Siltoth says, "Or if they played it out differently, not sending Medmaev after him."

You ask, "What do you think?"

You say, "I think things are better off the way they are, simply because you need to draw a line somewhere."

You say, "And it doesn't seem like Karovaas knew how to do that, as much as I admire his quest for knowledge. And I do respect him a great deal."

You say, "In a way."

Siltoth asks, "The lesson there I think is, that even when acting in the guild's best interest, empathy is needed and some good sense. Did the guild really need to send out a brother after a brother? Could they have not put someone else in charge of the chase?"

Siltoth says, "I do not doubt that they had a good reason to stop Karovaas, but in hindsight, and maybe not just in hindsight, the execution was terrible."

Siloth, thank you so much for relaying this story. I feel like I accidentally clipped part of the log out, if I did, please feel free to paste it in. Sorry if there are any mistakes, but please correct them.

Also up on Elanthipedia:
http://elanthipedia.com/wiki/Medmaev



- Terra

Raesh gives Terra wings. And then rips them off and beats her with them.
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Re: Medmaev, as told by a respectable Bard on 07/08/2010 07:59 PM CDT
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Good stuff. I didn't know Karovaas was so bad-A.

Question though, if Karovaas was so bad then why is he a guild favorite now? Siltoth says that Karovaas claimed he was under Madmaev's spell when he initially pursued Bardic sorcery/necromancy. If that's the case then why would Madmaev kill his own brother who was a follow of Karovaas to begin with?

Maybe I'm not understanding something but I'm getting a vague trace of circular logic. Regardless, I want Bardic sorcery :( Karovaas choose MEEEEE as your follower!

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~Leilond
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Re: Medmaev, as told by a respectable Bard on 07/08/2010 08:08 PM CDT
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Kyi0WNg40

-Raesh
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Re: Medmaev, as told by a respectable Bard on 07/08/2010 08:20 PM CDT
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Medmaev was a high ranking songsworn. He was dispatched by the guild to get rid of Karovaas and his followers, but one of Karovaas' followers was his brother Medmaep and so he was assigned to kill him. Then Medmaev disappeared for awhile and came back basically insane and trying to figure out a way to destroy Bards via his whackadoodle Bard sucking tool aforementioned.

I think part of Karovaas' appeal is that he came to help bring magic back, which was obviously a big deal. A lot of Bard purists wouldn't like Karovaas ideally, because the guild officials were sent to silence him and his studies. I personally like his magic oriented, forward thinking ideals however he doesn't seem to have any boundaries which is what I can't bring myself to agree with.

I hope that helps, a little.


- Terra
Raesh gives Terra wings. And then rips them off and beats her with them.
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Re: Medmaev, as told by a respectable Bard on 07/08/2010 10:34 PM CDT
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Right, but...

Siltoth says, "He was seen walking about freely later. He claimed to have been forced to act as he did by Medmaev, who trapped his soul in some way to the device. I found that explanation a little to convenient."

This is in reference to Karovaas; however, Karovaas claimed to have been forced to act as he did by Medmaev, who is the very same high ranking songsworn who was assigned to get rid of Karovaas and his brother to begin with. This is the reason why I am confused... doesn't seem to make sense to me.

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~Leilond
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Re: Medmaev, as told by a respectable Bard on 07/08/2010 11:48 PM CDT
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Leilond, Actually, this was in reference to this:

>>"One of his lackies, a traitor bard who was imprisoned at some point at Karovaas' old cell disappeared... he had an interesting story later on how he managed it."

I initially couldn't recall the name but that specific elf goes by the name of Therinos.

Maybe it's a little unclear from the text but I was kind of telling it the way I remembered it, so the text wasn't prepared in advance. If anyone sees any holes or anything that I got wrong, please clear it up.



* Malik was just struck down!
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Re: Medmaev, as told by a respectable Bard on 07/09/2010 01:04 AM CDT
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It made sense to me at the time, but glancing back over the text I can see how you got confused Leilond.



- Terra

Raesh gives Terra wings. And then rips them off and beats her with them.
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Re: Medmaev, as told by a respectable Bard on 07/09/2010 06:24 AM CDT
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Oh. I see, thanks for the clarification. Much appreciated.

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Re: Medmaev, as told by a respectable Bard on 07/10/2010 10:02 AM CDT
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What was so great about this epic was how it created the possibility to see both sides of the struggle. Some of us actually sided with the guild leaders, while others of us took the other side, even going so far as to protect Medmaev's minions (those little hooded guys). Before we knew the whole story, all we knew was that there was a long lost senior bard from ages past trying to gather strength and information. Who wouldn't want to help? Ezruh's pleading to leave it be only made it more attractive.

We were being spied on, attacked, manipulated, drawn into secret meetings, wars, treasure hunts, puzzles, and all manner of high level drama. Some of us were actually banned from the guild (Useff and Paerr) for taking up sides against the guild leaders. It was insanely detailed and long-lasting. And way excellent!

- Useff
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Re: Medmaev, as told by a respectable Bard on 07/12/2010 11:14 PM CDT
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>Useff's post

Completely agree, was great that there were two sides to the whole event. It was tough to decide who was best to side with because the Guildleader's were being very manipulative and asking a lot of trust without explaining anything really that was going on. Most only got one side of the story and otherwise had to blindly trust in the Guildleaders.

I feel the only reason Karovaas has been "accepted" again as a good guy today is because of his special relationship with the naga. Ezruh afterwards always appeared to me to have been appointed by the Guildleader Council or taken it upon himself to be Karovaas's keeper and to make sure he did the Guild's bidding. Since I have only seen Karovaas in public accompanied by Ezruh, but that could have changed.

To recap was a great event, the plot (even though the build-up dragged on for a little bit too long imo), the choices on who to side with, and the potential for role-play were all top notch.
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Re: Medmaev, as told by a respectable Bard on 07/24/2010 12:56 PM CDT
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I echo Useff's post. I can't say I took a side since it was really my first event participation. My bard actually helped Karovaas escape and got to see the music box with the naga. I couldn't decide who was evil and who wasn't and if the guild leaders were right or wrong and was astounded at the older bards who defied the guild and will never forget all the times spent just sitting at the sentinels waiting and watching. I still laugh thinking of the little things the GM's did while we waited like driving a tart cart through the crowd at the sentinels.

I will dig through my logs and find exactly what Ezruh said when I asked him why the guild was willing to let Karovaas have so much influence on the guild after all the years they tried to hide him from the guild. In all of it, I believe the guild leaders felt that his ideas were not that outrageous as once thought and that he had paid a debt. Personally, Eoworfinia doesn't trust Skra'Mur's since she herself is not one and knows all to well that only those of their inner circle are told the unmanipulative truth. Eoworfinia just can't believe that Karovaas forgives the bards for keeping him locked up in a cell underground for 30 years.

Anyway, I'll be happy to see if I still have my logs after so many years and so many computer swaps. I believe I still have them some where.


~Eoworfinia~
Marge, it takes two to lie. One to lie and one to listen. Homer Simpson

Get the facts first and then you can distort them as much as you please. Mark Twain
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Re: Medmaev, as told by a respectable Bard on 07/26/2010 02:31 PM CDT
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Let it be known officially, I'm a pack rat. I found the logs. Seems I have them dating back 2002. Anything specific anyone would like other than what I was originally searching in them for? And did I mention, I have log upon log upon log? I can't decide if I should laugh or cry at all the DR time I've logged!


~Eoworfinia~
Marge, it takes two to lie. One to lie and one to listen. Homer Simpson

Get the facts first and then you can distort them as much as you please. Mark Twain
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Re: Medmaev, as told by a respectable Bard on 07/26/2010 06:22 PM CDT
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I know the feeling, I cannot believe the logs and stuff I still have from pre-2003 :P Even some from the 90's.

It just makes me feel kind of old. :)
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Re: Medmaev, as told by a respectable Bard on 07/26/2010 09:30 PM CDT
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<<Anything specific anyone would like other than what I was originally searching in them for?

I remember when i was reading through the posts from that event all those years ago. I was out of the game for about a year and just randomly decided to check the boards and this happened to be going on. After reading through basically the entire event i finally opened my account backup. I would actually love to see some of the original posts containing the pertinent story twists and events during that ordeal.. It would also help the younger Bards have a better understanding of how we came to be where we are now.

Regards,
Vteec
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