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<<How many strings do the various harp types have?>>
8 (angle), 12 (lap), and 24 (large), if I recall correctly.
-Vaeldriil
a large silverwood harp
The silverwood harp appears to be a stringed instrument.
You are certain that the silverwood harp is crafted from wood.
You are confident that the silverwood harp is finely made.
You are certain that the silverwood harp is slightly dusty.
You are certain that the silverwood harp is strung with a set of eight gut strings.
You are certain that the silverwood harp is in perfect tune.
The silverwood harp has a bit of weight to it.
You are certain that the silverwood harp is worth exactly 6000 kronars.
The harp, designed to be portable, features a long, slender hollow base that rests against the chest when played. A riser extends from the bottom of the base to support a gracefully curved upper arm that completes the triangular shape of the instrument. The twenty-four strings of differing lengths are anchored along the center of the base and stretch upward to connect to the upper arm with small pins that allow the musician to keep the delicate instrument in tune.
Also, it is good that a lap harp no longer recalls as a bow harp, but the recall for lap harps does not say how many strings it has and the appraise still says that it has eight:
a white ash lap harp resplendent with gold-edged jade ivy leaf inlay
The lap harp appears to be a stringed instrument.
You are certain that the lap harp is crafted from wood.
You are certain that the lap harp is finely made.
You are certain that the lap harp is slightly dusty.
You are certain that the lap harp is strung with a set of eight gut strings.
You are certain that the lap harp is in perfect tune.
The lap harp feels light.
You are certain that the lap harp is worth exactly 21000 kronars.
The harp has an elegant, triangular shape across which run its many strings. The long slender body has inconspicuous sound holes on either side of its many strings that run from the base to the gracefully curved upper arm that holds the tuning pins. It is just small enough to be played from the lap or against the chest.
Could the reason why a harp's appraisal and its recall disagree as to the number of strings it has please be explained? It makes no sense at all that when I appraise a large harp there are eight strings but when I recall it there are twenty-four strings. I have not yet broken the strings on my harp and hopefully will not ever do so, but if it happens, am I stringing it with a set of 8? I don't even know where to buy a set of eight gut strings. I have sets of twelve and sets of twenty-four, but not eight.
Bard Lydaiva's (and others) player
When the harps first came out, Vael and Dart explained the recall and the appraisal differences but for the life of me, now I can't remember what they said. It's been at least a year or more now since the write up on it. I want to say that the recall was the generic meaning while the appraisal gave the actual information, ie number of strings. Recalling is a way of getting a quick history/generic information on the instrument, not exactly what YOUR instrument has. Not sure if I'm making sense or not and I might have it wrong. That's what this poor, aging mind remembers, slightly. And no, I don't mean my character. haha
~Eoworfinia~
A snow goblin reaches down and gently pets your corpse, then quickly looks about to make sure no one noticed.
~Eoworfinia~
A snow goblin reaches down and gently pets your corpse, then quickly looks about to make sure no one noticed.
I think you're pretty much right, Eoworfinia. Recall gives you some information about the general class of instrument. Appraisal will give you information about your specific instrument.
~Azimee
~~~
If you find yourself confronted by a group of armed guards, be warned that they will attack you in mass. No matter what you have been told by other sources, rest assured that they will not line up to attack you one by one. ~Handbook of Practical Heroics
~Azimee
~~~
If you find yourself confronted by a group of armed guards, be warned that they will attack you in mass. No matter what you have been told by other sources, rest assured that they will not line up to attack you one by one. ~Handbook of Practical Heroics
Perhaps so, but it makes no sense whatsoever for a large harp to have only eight strings. The different sizes of harps should actually use different sets of strings. It is illogical and confusing that they do not. And I still do not know where to buy a set of eight strings.
Bard Lydaiva's (and others) player
Bard Lydaiva's (and others) player
I suspect they were made with 8 strings originally since the number of strings has a lot to do with the base difficulty of the instruments... for the most part, instruments with more strings are more difficult than those with fewer strings. I believe that psaltries and zithers, the hardest of the stringed instruments, have 24 - I'd have to check them after I get home to be sure, though.
As for buying a set of 8 strings, you might check the bard's shop in Haven - I seem to recall he carried just about everything you might need to fix any instrument.
~Azimee
~~~
If you find yourself confronted by a group of armed guards, be warned that they will attack you in mass. No matter what you have been told by other sources, rest assured that they will not line up to attack you one by one. ~Handbook of Practical Heroics
As for buying a set of 8 strings, you might check the bard's shop in Haven - I seem to recall he carried just about everything you might need to fix any instrument.
~Azimee
~~~
If you find yourself confronted by a group of armed guards, be warned that they will attack you in mass. No matter what you have been told by other sources, rest assured that they will not line up to attack you one by one. ~Handbook of Practical Heroics
Bard Shop in Crossing:
Six Gut Strings - For lutes. - 625K
Four Gut Strings - For lyres, mandolins, and fiddles. - 375K
Four Silk Strings - For py'a-py'as, fiddles, lyres and mandolins. - 375K
Bard Shop in Arthe Dale:
Six Strings - For lutes. +625K
Four Strings - For lyres, mandolins, and fiddles. +375K
Bard Shop in Haven:
~+ Four Strings 793L
-- For the lyre, mandolin, fiddle, violin, kithara,
faenellica, rebec, py'a-py'as and sra'ajhh.
~+ Six Strings 1003L
-- For the lute and cittern.
~+ Seven Strings 1134L
- For the cistre.
~+ Twelve Strings 1507L
-- If you need them, we've got them!
~+ Twenty-Four Strings 3015L
-- For the psalterie.
Muspari:
Ishamik's Instruments -
On the small stand you see a set of four metal strings (600 L) (pi tambura)
Melodies of the Earth -
On the string shelf you see a set of five gut strings (600 L) and a placard reads:
The five gut strings are for use with our pi sitars.
S'hhtrkith's Instruments -
a set of three gut strings (200 L) and a sign:
The bows and three gut strings are for our dear sarangi instrument.
Shard Bard Shop:
Twelve Strings - For gitterns. 721 D
Four Strings - For lyres, mandolins, and fiddles. 270 D
Ratha Bard Shop:
Twenty-four Strings - For psalteries. 1000 L
Six Strings - For lutes, gitterns and citterns. 250 L
Four strings - For lyres, violins, mandolins, fiddles and sra'ajhh. 200 L
Aesry Bard Shop:
Four strings For kitharas, faenellicas and rebecs. - (400 lirums)
Six Strings For lutes, gitterns and citterns. - (600 lirums)
Seven Strings For cistres. - (610 lirums)
It would appear that there is nowhere to purchase a set of eight gut strings for my harp.
Bard Lydaiva's (and others) player
Six Gut Strings - For lutes. - 625K
Four Gut Strings - For lyres, mandolins, and fiddles. - 375K
Four Silk Strings - For py'a-py'as, fiddles, lyres and mandolins. - 375K
Bard Shop in Arthe Dale:
Six Strings - For lutes. +625K
Four Strings - For lyres, mandolins, and fiddles. +375K
Bard Shop in Haven:
~+ Four Strings 793L
-- For the lyre, mandolin, fiddle, violin, kithara,
faenellica, rebec, py'a-py'as and sra'ajhh.
~+ Six Strings 1003L
-- For the lute and cittern.
~+ Seven Strings 1134L
- For the cistre.
~+ Twelve Strings 1507L
-- If you need them, we've got them!
~+ Twenty-Four Strings 3015L
-- For the psalterie.
Muspari:
Ishamik's Instruments -
On the small stand you see a set of four metal strings (600 L) (pi tambura)
Melodies of the Earth -
On the string shelf you see a set of five gut strings (600 L) and a placard reads:
The five gut strings are for use with our pi sitars.
S'hhtrkith's Instruments -
a set of three gut strings (200 L) and a sign:
The bows and three gut strings are for our dear sarangi instrument.
Shard Bard Shop:
Twelve Strings - For gitterns. 721 D
Four Strings - For lyres, mandolins, and fiddles. 270 D
Ratha Bard Shop:
Twenty-four Strings - For psalteries. 1000 L
Six Strings - For lutes, gitterns and citterns. 250 L
Four strings - For lyres, violins, mandolins, fiddles and sra'ajhh. 200 L
Aesry Bard Shop:
Four strings For kitharas, faenellicas and rebecs. - (400 lirums)
Six Strings For lutes, gitterns and citterns. - (600 lirums)
Seven Strings For cistres. - (610 lirums)
It would appear that there is nowhere to purchase a set of eight gut strings for my harp.
Bard Lydaiva's (and others) player
Checking into the number of harp strings per type (because I could have SWORN that they didn't ALL take 8 strings - and yes, I just did check, and they all app as taking 8...bizarre...) as well as availability of strings (because again, I could have sworn before the release of the merchant that I checked to make sure there were strings available SOMEWHERE in a 24/7 type of shop for them...)
I'll do some digging and see what I can come up with. Or I'll go flail and whimper and stuff in Dart's general direction and see if he can give me any insight. Either way. ;)
-Vaeldriil
"Reject me not, sweet sounds! oh, let me live,
Till doom espy my towers and scatter them.
A city spell-bound under the aging sun,
Music my rampart, and my only one."
-Edna St. Vincent-Millay
I'll do some digging and see what I can come up with. Or I'll go flail and whimper and stuff in Dart's general direction and see if he can give me any insight. Either way. ;)
-Vaeldriil
"Reject me not, sweet sounds! oh, let me live,
Till doom espy my towers and scatter them.
A city spell-bound under the aging sun,
Music my rampart, and my only one."
-Edna St. Vincent-Millay
My child's angle harp takes 4, but all the others I bought take 8 - and I bought at least one of each from the shop.
~Azimee
~~~
If you find yourself confronted by a group of armed guards, be warned that they will attack you in mass. No matter what you have been told by other sources, rest assured that they will not line up to attack you one by one. ~Handbook of Practical Heroics
~Azimee
~~~
If you find yourself confronted by a group of armed guards, be warned that they will attack you in mass. No matter what you have been told by other sources, rest assured that they will not line up to attack you one by one. ~Handbook of Practical Heroics
Update on the harp string situation -
I've at least found out why I was seeing one thing for number of strings on at least some of these and y'all were seeing another (and it has nothing to do with any kind of "recall").
Will keep investigating.
BTW, for those with "child's" harps...they're 4 strings, and they seem to be fine; large angle harps are at 8 and also seem to be fine (though I know that doesn't help you with the "Where do I get 8 strings?!?!?" thing. Will be looking into that as well).
-Vaeldriil
"Reject me not, sweet sounds! oh, let me live,
Till doom espy my towers and scatter them.
A city spell-bound under the aging sun,
Music my rampart, and my only one."
-Edna St. Vincent-Millay
I've at least found out why I was seeing one thing for number of strings on at least some of these and y'all were seeing another (and it has nothing to do with any kind of "recall").
Will keep investigating.
BTW, for those with "child's" harps...they're 4 strings, and they seem to be fine; large angle harps are at 8 and also seem to be fine (though I know that doesn't help you with the "Where do I get 8 strings?!?!?" thing. Will be looking into that as well).
-Vaeldriil
"Reject me not, sweet sounds! oh, let me live,
Till doom espy my towers and scatter them.
A city spell-bound under the aging sun,
Music my rampart, and my only one."
-Edna St. Vincent-Millay
>>As I mentioned to Lydaiva the other day...
Weren't we pomised harps and bagpipes would come at the same time? Hmm? HMMM? Woulda sworn we were. <squints at Dart and Vael>
Danner<<
No, no... you were promised you could Harp about not having Bagpipes yet... sheesh clean those ears out ;-)
Whipersoft 'n Me
Weren't we pomised harps and bagpipes would come at the same time? Hmm? HMMM? Woulda sworn we were. <squints at Dart and Vael>
Danner<<
No, no... you were promised you could Harp about not having Bagpipes yet... sheesh clean those ears out ;-)
Whipersoft 'n Me
>Weren't we pomised harps and bagpipes would come at the same time? Hmm? HMMM? Woulda sworn we were. <squints at Dart and Vael>
Actually, we were promised harps and bagpipes at the same bard meeting. The promise was the same time, the timing of actually getting them was not mentioned. Harps haven't been here very long, anyway.
Actually, we were promised harps and bagpipes at the same bard meeting. The promise was the same time, the timing of actually getting them was not mentioned. Harps haven't been here very long, anyway.
>Harps haven't been here very long, anyway.
A little over a year and a half, actually. They made their debut on Thanksgiving weekend, 2004 :)
~Azimee
~~~
If you find yourself confronted by a group of armed guards, be warned that they will attack you in mass. No matter what you have been told by other sources, rest assured that they will not line up to attack you one by one. ~Handbook of Practical Heroics
A little over a year and a half, actually. They made their debut on Thanksgiving weekend, 2004 :)
~Azimee
~~~
If you find yourself confronted by a group of armed guards, be warned that they will attack you in mass. No matter what you have been told by other sources, rest assured that they will not line up to attack you one by one. ~Handbook of Practical Heroics
Bagpipes (and chanters) are all very well for those who wish them. More power to you. But what I'd really like is for the harp string situation to be attended to. (I know, I know, it's being investigated and I do appreciate that.) If lap harps start appraising with 12 strings and large harps start appraising with 24 strings, that will be wonderful. Then all that will be left is to put sets of eight gut strings in a bard shop somewhere in the lands. How about in the Crossing bard shop in the back room with the other new stuff?
Bard Lydaiva's (and others) player
Bard Lydaiva's (and others) player
which one Kleis? I bought a few trying them out, I thought. Maybe I'm wrong. Gah, it's gonna be one of those forgetful days. Not that I'm worried about finding one, just curious now.
~Eoworfinia~
A snow goblin reaches down and gently pets your corpse, then quickly looks about to make sure no one noticed.
~Eoworfinia~
A snow goblin reaches down and gently pets your corpse, then quickly looks about to make sure no one noticed.
You tap a lustrous indigo velvet case clasped with a jeweled platinum heron that you are wearing.
>put harp in case
You put your harp in your velvet case.
>l in case
In the velvet case you see a large black ironwood harp, a pair of silver spoons, a crimson crystal flute, a silver chamois cloth, some ebony castanets, a red chamois cloth, a stained white ash zither and a river cane flute.
I have two others in my vault if you'd like I can dig them up and show them to you as well. These cases are pretty dang cool, if I empty it they can even hold my halberd:)
Thanks,
Kleis
>put harp in case
You put your harp in your velvet case.
>l in case
In the velvet case you see a large black ironwood harp, a pair of silver spoons, a crimson crystal flute, a silver chamois cloth, some ebony castanets, a red chamois cloth, a stained white ash zither and a river cane flute.
I have two others in my vault if you'd like I can dig them up and show them to you as well. These cases are pretty dang cool, if I empty it they can even hold my halberd:)
Thanks,
Kleis
Because that is the way it was coded. Is that right in the Real World No. But to be honest I dont care there are plenty of other containers out there that are belt worn but can hold half an armory. I'm pretty sure the thing with these cases is they dont care about the length of the item just the overall weight in the case. My best guess on why it was done that way is so that there would be a case out there to hold harps, and I sure as hell am not going to get upset over the fact that it is belt worn instead of slung over my back.
Thanks,
Kleis
Thanks,
Kleis
Umm maybe I am missing something or have the wrong size harp but:
s>tap case
You tap a bardic blue instrument case embroidered with golden knotwork that you are wearing.
s>l in case
In the instrument case you see a large white ironwood harp.
s>app case
The instrument case is a container, and can be opened and closed.
The instrument case is quite supple.
It appears that the instrument case can be slung over one shoulder.
Me 'n Whispersoft
s>tap case
You tap a bardic blue instrument case embroidered with golden knotwork that you are wearing.
s>l in case
In the instrument case you see a large white ironwood harp.
s>app case
The instrument case is a container, and can be opened and closed.
The instrument case is quite supple.
It appears that the instrument case can be slung over one shoulder.
Me 'n Whispersoft
a bardic blue instrument case embroidered with golden knotwork
Did you get that one off the bard barge in Shard during the Outcast festival? Because I have a large black suede case that holds a LOT, but it is not from that barge, and just a few days ago I had a good dozen instruments in it, several cloths, and a lot of other things. But even when it is empty, my harp will not go in it.
The large suede case is a container, and can be opened and closed.
The large suede case is a bit flexible.
It appears that the large suede case can be slung over one shoulder.
The large suede case has a bit of weight to it.
look in my case
There is nothing in there.
get my harp
You get a large silverwood harp from inside your silk haversack.
put my harp in my case
The silverwood harp is too wide to fit in the case.
Bard Lydaiva's (and others) player
Did you get that one off the bard barge in Shard during the Outcast festival? Because I have a large black suede case that holds a LOT, but it is not from that barge, and just a few days ago I had a good dozen instruments in it, several cloths, and a lot of other things. But even when it is empty, my harp will not go in it.
The large suede case is a container, and can be opened and closed.
The large suede case is a bit flexible.
It appears that the large suede case can be slung over one shoulder.
The large suede case has a bit of weight to it.
look in my case
There is nothing in there.
get my harp
You get a large silverwood harp from inside your silk haversack.
put my harp in my case
The silverwood harp is too wide to fit in the case.
Bard Lydaiva's (and others) player
You know I am not sure where I got it from but I think I got it from the Shard fest... I think a friend picked it up when I could not get down there right away and I was afraid I was going to miss it.
So I'll ask him where he got it... hmm, looking at it more I found something about I had not seen before, so no he did not get it from the bard barge but yes from the fest. Let me see if gain more of them and I'll let you know.
Whisper's other half, the non-drunk half
So I'll ask him where he got it... hmm, looking at it more I found something about I had not seen before, so no he did not get it from the bard barge but yes from the fest. Let me see if gain more of them and I'll let you know.
Whisper's other half, the non-drunk half
I can clarify this a little bit at least, since I was living in Shard at the time of the fest and paying close attention to the wares.
The instrument cases sold in the Shard boat during the fest originally held harps. I bought 4-5 of them. Then, about 3 days into the festival, the cases "changed," although they still looked the same. Meaning: the cases no longer held harps.
So it all depends on when you bought the case from the Shard fest.
~Micka
The instrument cases sold in the Shard boat during the fest originally held harps. I bought 4-5 of them. Then, about 3 days into the festival, the cases "changed," although they still looked the same. Meaning: the cases no longer held harps.
So it all depends on when you bought the case from the Shard fest.
~Micka
And here is yet another plea for the harp strings to be corrected. Everything larger than a child's angle harp still appraises with eight strings. Also, no music shop in the game sells sets of eight strings, so the large angle harps that are supposed to have eight strings will still be out of luck if the lap harps and large harps are fixed. There should be a set available in Crossing, where the harps are sold, in the True Bard D'or's shop.
I love that Heavenly Harmonies appeared in the seacaves, I do. But I was really hoping that there would be shoulder worn harp cases in addition to the harps. Ah well, someday, perhaps, I will have a case for my harp instead of a haversack. A 'harpcase' would be great. Making it plain that it only holds harps.
Yes, I know some cases from the bard barge at the Shard festival last fall hold harps, but I didn't buy any of those. Besides, I want a black or silver or at least emerald green one that will match my outfit. Perhaps have the cases and make them able to be dyed? Hehehe...
Bard Lydaiva's (and others) player
I love that Heavenly Harmonies appeared in the seacaves, I do. But I was really hoping that there would be shoulder worn harp cases in addition to the harps. Ah well, someday, perhaps, I will have a case for my harp instead of a haversack. A 'harpcase' would be great. Making it plain that it only holds harps.
Yes, I know some cases from the bard barge at the Shard festival last fall hold harps, but I didn't buy any of those. Besides, I want a black or silver or at least emerald green one that will match my outfit. Perhaps have the cases and make them able to be dyed? Hehehe...
Bard Lydaiva's (and others) player
>And here is yet another plea for the harp strings to be corrected.
In Dart's post on what was coming or an update, he stated fixing this was on his list. I personally am trusting him to keep it on his list.
~Eoworfinia~
A snow goblin reaches down and gently pets your corpse, then quickly looks about to make sure no one noticed.
In Dart's post on what was coming or an update, he stated fixing this was on his list. I personally am trusting him to keep it on his list.
~Eoworfinia~
A snow goblin reaches down and gently pets your corpse, then quickly looks about to make sure no one noticed.
http://www.play.net/forums/messages.asp?forum=20&category=15&topic=1&message=205
That is the specific post in which Dart says:
>We'll get to the bottom of the mystery of the mysterious harp strings before the year is out, hopefully before the summer is over.
~Eoworfinia~
A snow goblin reaches down and gently pets your corpse, then quickly looks about to make sure no one noticed.
That is the specific post in which Dart says:
>We'll get to the bottom of the mystery of the mysterious harp strings before the year is out, hopefully before the summer is over.
~Eoworfinia~
A snow goblin reaches down and gently pets your corpse, then quickly looks about to make sure no one noticed.
>But summer is almost over!
Actually, there's over a month of summer left :) Fall doesn't start until September 23rd.
Dart's said he'll track them down... but I doubt he's going to have time to get to it until after the countdown is over.
~Azimee
~~~
If you find yourself confronted by a group of armed guards, be warned that they will attack you in mass. No matter what you have been told by other sources, rest assured that they will not line up to attack you one by one. ~Handbook of Practical Heroics
Actually, there's over a month of summer left :) Fall doesn't start until September 23rd.
Dart's said he'll track them down... but I doubt he's going to have time to get to it until after the countdown is over.
~Azimee
~~~
If you find yourself confronted by a group of armed guards, be warned that they will attack you in mass. No matter what you have been told by other sources, rest assured that they will not line up to attack you one by one. ~Handbook of Practical Heroics
