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Suggestion for learning Vocal Instrument skill...
Hum/whistle playstyles, working much like an instrument does. Having a few non-bardic characters, I've always wondered how to get them moving on vocal instrument when I see it as something that would fit their RP more than any of the other instrument types out there...
The problem is, I'm crappy at writing songs, and don't want to just SING nonsense to work the skill.
However, humming or whistling while you work (har har!) seems like a good way to work the skill. I realize there are a number of ways for bards to learn it at this time, from singing original works, to scroll songs, to all of our enchantes... but for non-bards I don't see many opportunities to really train it.
>whistle irritating ditty
>You begin to whistle an irritating ditty with only slight difficulty
>The goblin glowers at you and redoubles it's efforts to kill you before the tune gets stuck in its head!
Danner, and others
>The goblin glowers at you and redoubles it's efforts to kill you before the tune gets stuck in its head!
That's actually something I've always wanted. Some kind of Bard ability that taunts the opponent into attacking twice or even three times as fast. This would do a number of things.
1) Make the enemy tire faster.
2) Give us more defensive skill learning.
3) Indirectly help us to hurt them(since they will be more fatigued).
The one who is obsessed with power.. and who still has a long way to go.
That's actually something I've always wanted. Some kind of Bard ability that taunts the opponent into attacking twice or even three times as fast. This would do a number of things.
1) Make the enemy tire faster.
2) Give us more defensive skill learning.
3) Indirectly help us to hurt them(since they will be more fatigued).
The one who is obsessed with power.. and who still has a long way to go.
Leave it to me to try to be clever and funny and spawn some idea that's counter to what I was trying to get! I should just stick to my usual schtick.
Well, not really counter, but I was looking for shared non-bard/bard abilities to learn vocal BESIDES enchantes. Any chance of this Dart?
Danner
Well, not really counter, but I was looking for shared non-bard/bard abilities to learn vocal BESIDES enchantes. Any chance of this Dart?
Danner
> Any chance of this Dart?
It's on the list. Allowing humming and whistling to teach vocals is definitely already under consideration, if only to cut way back on the massive amounts of scroll. We're also discussing allowing Bards to "translate" scroll songs for non-bards, and improving a bit on the ability to whistle/hum those songs for vocal experience. On a related note, I'm also looking at allowing scroll songs to be played on instruments.
- GM Dartenian
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It's on the list. Allowing humming and whistling to teach vocals is definitely already under consideration, if only to cut way back on the massive amounts of scroll. We're also discussing allowing Bards to "translate" scroll songs for non-bards, and improving a bit on the ability to whistle/hum those songs for vocal experience. On a related note, I'm also looking at allowing scroll songs to be played on instruments.
- GM Dartenian
"You ain't seen nothin' yet!" - Al Jolson
LiveJournal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/dartenian/
Any other ideas for vocals?
For instance, a way to "sing scales" to practice vocals without needing to write/stea--err, borrow songs (sing /scale to avoid singing, well, "scale"...)
Vocal exercise sheets (and/or primers, like origami patterns and primers) that you could study, then sing, in the same manner as studying/folding origami (since you'd likely not try to memorize vocal exercises)?
Maybe a way to even copy said exercises into songbooks so that they'd be in there permanently (whereas the sheets may get too worn with time and disintegrate).
In the case of the exercises as well as that of the scales, these may not have actual lyrics, but perhaps could message the same way that playing instruments does.
Other ideas? Brainstorm, folks!
-Vaeldriil
"Reject me not, sweet sounds! oh, let me live,
Till doom espy my towers and scatter them.
A city spell-bound under the aging sun,
Music my rampart, and my only one."
-Edna St. Vincent-Millay
For instance, a way to "sing scales" to practice vocals without needing to write/stea--err, borrow songs (sing /scale to avoid singing, well, "scale"...)
Vocal exercise sheets (and/or primers, like origami patterns and primers) that you could study, then sing, in the same manner as studying/folding origami (since you'd likely not try to memorize vocal exercises)?
Maybe a way to even copy said exercises into songbooks so that they'd be in there permanently (whereas the sheets may get too worn with time and disintegrate).
In the case of the exercises as well as that of the scales, these may not have actual lyrics, but perhaps could message the same way that playing instruments does.
Other ideas? Brainstorm, folks!
-Vaeldriil
"Reject me not, sweet sounds! oh, let me live,
Till doom espy my towers and scatter them.
A city spell-bound under the aging sun,
Music my rampart, and my only one."
-Edna St. Vincent-Millay
As a non-bard vocalist.
Lecturing while teaching could teach like singing does now, up to a certain point. Songbooks like the patterns, with and without lyrics to sing. (I really hate coming up with lyrics, and have only made up a couple of my own.)
I like the idea of humming and whistling as well as singing to learn.
Storytelling - with storybooks/history books and our own tales.
Singing in our own languages, rather than in common.
mfberg
Lecturing while teaching could teach like singing does now, up to a certain point. Songbooks like the patterns, with and without lyrics to sing. (I really hate coming up with lyrics, and have only made up a couple of my own.)
I like the idea of humming and whistling as well as singing to learn.
Storytelling - with storybooks/history books and our own tales.
Singing in our own languages, rather than in common.
mfberg
What about noteplay? 7 notes would seem to lend itself pretty darn well to both a musical locks system as well as a bardic "sign language". To increase the range of values, you could even include scat. Would sound pretty neat to play around with non-lyrical works.
J'Lo, no that other one
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J'Lo, no that other one
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It would be awesome to have a system similar to the PLAY system that would allow one to practice the skill independently.
I think copying notes in songbooks would be better for scholarship training (which we need more of - recall slows down!) but I think you should actually have to sing to learn vocals.
It would also be nice to have some sort of voice teacher/teaching mechanism where you could sing a series of notes to someone (with presumably lower vocal skill than yourself) and they would sing them back until the series become too complicated - and would produce teaching, scholarship and vocal experience for the teacher and scholarship and vocal experience for the student(s). I think this could also work similarly to the PLAY verb, without RT but with a time commitment. I think this would also help to reinforce our teaching expertise, with a decidedly musical bent. I think it's also very IC and it makes OOC sense, too. Ear-training is very difficult but very necessary for any vocalist!
GENT
I think copying notes in songbooks would be better for scholarship training (which we need more of - recall slows down!) but I think you should actually have to sing to learn vocals.
It would also be nice to have some sort of voice teacher/teaching mechanism where you could sing a series of notes to someone (with presumably lower vocal skill than yourself) and they would sing them back until the series become too complicated - and would produce teaching, scholarship and vocal experience for the teacher and scholarship and vocal experience for the student(s). I think this could also work similarly to the PLAY verb, without RT but with a time commitment. I think this would also help to reinforce our teaching expertise, with a decidedly musical bent. I think it's also very IC and it makes OOC sense, too. Ear-training is very difficult but very necessary for any vocalist!
GENT
