The only 4th Tier TM spell we have is HH right? How come we got shafted without a real 4th tier TM spell. Shouldn't each magic prime guild get at least one? You cannot consider HH given how unique of a niche spell it is. A 4th tier spell that works on the living? I'm really, really hoping Flames of Ushnish will fill this void and be the next evolution from FF...If not something to think about.

"How come we got shafted without a real 4th tier TM spell."

Shafted? I mean I get accused of complaining too much but really this comes off really whiny. Understand we pay to play the game the way it is. If you want to advocate for an improvement or additional spells, great, but starting it off with confrontational language is just asking for at best a smack down by Armifer.

"Shouldn't each magic prime guild get at least one? You cannot consider HH given how unique of a niche spell it is. A 4th tier spell that works on the living? I'm really, really hoping Flames of Ushnish will fill this void and be the next evolution from FF...If not something to think about."

Again, I think that having a 4th and even a 5th tier TM spell is something that I could see happening. Flames of Ush might be it...who knows really. But more importantly I think is why do you want that 4th tier TM spell? What do you see as its purpose? Once you have identified a purpose- beyond just being a 4th tier spell- then you can go about proposing a concept, like Ryeka did.

Flavius

"militantly enforcing the overly rigid standards of you and your small collection of friends"

>But more importantly I think is why do you want that 4th tier TM spell? What do you see as its purpose?

Kill things quickly and teach well?

Maybe shafted is a little harsh, I guess the words i use are just more harsh than what people like. Let me go about this another way. I just got into using communes, at 45th circle. The offensive and defensive ones. Between those, PFE, MPP, MaPP, Ben, Centering, SOL, vigil, Malediction (awesome spell), and COZ, I can buff myself up so high and debuff the critter so low I can hunt critters way, way out of my league. I don't think either of the other two magic prime guilds can buff up to that degree, I doubt they can even come close. From my view it seems we have this ability at a cost of TM spells, we have alot less to play with. And I'm fine with that. We have two tier 2 spells, DR and HOT, two tier 3 spells, HE (another awesome spell) and FF (lacking in power, but at least its tier 3) and HH at tier 4. I use all of those spells at some point or another, but I cannot use HH to its ability, I'd die well before I could learn from it (I'm sure eventually I will grow into it, like all cleric spells). TM spells are for learning TM, and destroying. I hear alot from moonies and warmies how much of a power gap is between tier 3 and 4, I'd just like to know what that difference feels like. Warmies have the best destruction capability, Moonies are the most Utilitarian mages, and Clerics are the buffers. All magic prime guilds should be able to do each, with each guild excelling at their particular niche. I feel like I'm missing out on something as a mage without that 4th tier TM spell, even if it would be less powerful than a warmies, thats fine. End of whining. GM's, you've done an amazing job on our guild so far.

hehe, I have no idea what FoU is actually going to be. I'm really hoping its 4th tier TM spell, but if it's not then I'm suggesting that we need one. If it is, subject is completely done. But being that I have no idea what they have planned yet, I'm suggesting this as something that we need. Maybe I'm missing something, if you know FoU is what I'm asking for, why don't you just tell me that because I'm ignorant to that fact. As far as the flames of everild spell idea, I would prefer the fire damage even if thats what the other spells are, for the fact thats what I would see a cleric's magic as, blasting the evil and undead to death with flames. Seems right to me.