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Hey all, I don't get spend as much time in Elanthia as I used to and just recently I noticed how much things have changed, at least as far as deaders go. It seems that only those who have rezz need worry about helping the dead as it is now unofficial (at least I hope) policy that all dead are entitled a raise. At least that's the message I was given during the last consumption outbreak. They simply waited for me to patch their memories and get them glyphed. As soon they learned I couldn't raise them and there wasn't any other clerics around who could, they just left the game, coming back every five minutes to check for an elder cleric, of course. Naturally this ticked me off royally, as there was a small handful who were willing to depart, and this nonsense wasted my mana and delayed my getting to them. Soon there was a pileup of "magic" corpses, disappearing and reappearing, complaining about the lack of a rezzing cleric. When I questioned one of these annoying buggers he told me to mind my business, this was the way it was now, and it was supported by the elder clerics. I didn't believe him until the older clerics came in and rezzed everyone who was "good enough to wait". I questioned the clerics about this and I got basically the same response I got from the deader. Is this the way it is now? We reward rude corpse by allowing them to demand raises? Is this behavior really permitted by the gods and by clerics themselves? Am I in error by thinking there is something wrong with this? I'm afraid there is little I myself can do to stop it as I cannot rezz yet anyway. Helping the fallen was what drew me here in the first place, but I'm beginning to think I've wasted many years in the wrong guild. Is there nothing the gods can do?
Father Aranthorn, Journeyman Cleric of Elanthia
"Lawd, help us! The Pryds are naming their tails!"
"Don't listen to her, Lunchbox, I think you're cute."
>Is this the way it is now?
Get out of Crossing.
>We reward rude corpse by allowing them to demand raises?
No, how you reward rude corpses is up to you. I prefer rewarding them by giving them a nice quiet place to vent, namely the cellar.
>Is this behavior really permitted by the gods and by clerics themselves?
The gods don't intervene in trivial matters. Cleric's can deal with the matter how they like. The problem is, you seem to think there's something wrong with the behavior. You know, you could have been less rude and told them up front you were just a n00b w/o rezz.
>Am I in error by thinking there is something wrong with this?
Yes. If you want to be a slave to the dead, be a slave. (Hint, slaves get whipped or worse for talking back to their masters).
>I'm afraid there is little I myself can do to stop it as I cannot rezz yet anyway.
You can't stop it. Being able to resurrect will not change this fact. The problem here is you think there is a problem that needs fixing.
>Helping the fallen was what drew me here in the first place, but I'm beginning to think I've wasted many years in the wrong guild.
You've been here many years, and you can't raise? Try getting off your bum and see the world. Elanthia is an enriching and immersive environment... check it out sometime and maybe you'll find something you like better than being chained to corpses.
>Is there nothing the gods can do?
GMs are not gods, and there's nothing in your scenario that requires their attention.
Thrall of Dergati,
Heroiklim Zortal
You sense the Vigil spell bolstering your spirit, which should last for about zero roisaen.
Get out of Crossing.
>We reward rude corpse by allowing them to demand raises?
No, how you reward rude corpses is up to you. I prefer rewarding them by giving them a nice quiet place to vent, namely the cellar.
>Is this behavior really permitted by the gods and by clerics themselves?
The gods don't intervene in trivial matters. Cleric's can deal with the matter how they like. The problem is, you seem to think there's something wrong with the behavior. You know, you could have been less rude and told them up front you were just a n00b w/o rezz.
>Am I in error by thinking there is something wrong with this?
Yes. If you want to be a slave to the dead, be a slave. (Hint, slaves get whipped or worse for talking back to their masters).
>I'm afraid there is little I myself can do to stop it as I cannot rezz yet anyway.
You can't stop it. Being able to resurrect will not change this fact. The problem here is you think there is a problem that needs fixing.
>Helping the fallen was what drew me here in the first place, but I'm beginning to think I've wasted many years in the wrong guild.
You've been here many years, and you can't raise? Try getting off your bum and see the world. Elanthia is an enriching and immersive environment... check it out sometime and maybe you'll find something you like better than being chained to corpses.
>Is there nothing the gods can do?
GMs are not gods, and there's nothing in your scenario that requires their attention.
Thrall of Dergati,
Heroiklim Zortal
You sense the Vigil spell bolstering your spirit, which should last for about zero roisaen.
Well, when you get the ability to rezz simply make your own choices about who you want to rezz or not. Empaths can refuse healing if they wish or grant it. The choice is theirs. Just like a Paladin can choose to glyph or not. I wouldn't say it's abusing it, I'd say it's sheer stupidity and laziness of not wanting to get another favor. I mean, whether they get a rezz or not they won't have any experience and unless they're carrying uber coins or (for the more vain) have face paint that leaves when you depart I don't see why some people MUST have a raise. On the other hand, from listening to the older clerics and they may correct me if I'm wrong, it seems that when you raise someone who has favors you gain a favor of your own. Or so I've been told. That may be why clerics who can rezz opt to do so whenever possible.
River
Curiousity killed the cat....but satisfaction brought him back.
River
Curiousity killed the cat....but satisfaction brought him back.
>That may be why clerics who can rezz opt to do so whenever possible.
It's true! That's exactly why we raise. We don't care about helping, none of us joined the cleric guild to help people. We are all just greedy favor munchers... never mind there's no benefit to a high number of favors, we're just greedy that way.
Thrall of Dergati,
Heroiklim Zortal
You sense the Vigil spell bolstering your spirit, which should last for about zero roisaen.
It's true! That's exactly why we raise. We don't care about helping, none of us joined the cleric guild to help people. We are all just greedy favor munchers... never mind there's no benefit to a high number of favors, we're just greedy that way.
Thrall of Dergati,
Heroiklim Zortal
You sense the Vigil spell bolstering your spirit, which should last for about zero roisaen.
>>It's true! That's exactly why we raise. We don't care about helping, none of us joined the cleric guild to help people. We are all just greedy favor munchers... never mind there's no benefit to a high number of favors, we're just greedy that way.
Key words, "That may be..." No need for the sarcasm. *mutters something about the stupid board monkeys and how they must always take one tiny part of a post and blow it out of proportion* I'm sure that there are clerics who help because they want to, I'm sure there are also clerics who feel that their words fall on deaf ears and no longer help people. I'm sure that their is a myriad of different people who are clerics and who all have their own reasons for becoming a cleric. Maybe there are clerics who are, "Greedy favor munchers." I'll thank you to not put words in my mouth since that wasn't what I meant. This is the first time I've opted to try playing a cleric, and I usually only paid attention to the details of the guilds I've previously been in, so I didn't know that there was no benefit to a higher number of favors. I've overheard clerics boasting about how many favors they have blah blah blah so I assumed it was a good thing.
River
Curiousity killed the cat....but satisfaction brought him back.
Key words, "That may be..." No need for the sarcasm. *mutters something about the stupid board monkeys and how they must always take one tiny part of a post and blow it out of proportion* I'm sure that there are clerics who help because they want to, I'm sure there are also clerics who feel that their words fall on deaf ears and no longer help people. I'm sure that their is a myriad of different people who are clerics and who all have their own reasons for becoming a cleric. Maybe there are clerics who are, "Greedy favor munchers." I'll thank you to not put words in my mouth since that wasn't what I meant. This is the first time I've opted to try playing a cleric, and I usually only paid attention to the details of the guilds I've previously been in, so I didn't know that there was no benefit to a higher number of favors. I've overheard clerics boasting about how many favors they have blah blah blah so I assumed it was a good thing.
River
Curiousity killed the cat....but satisfaction brought him back.
>It seems that only those who have rezz need worry about helping the dead
My policy, if they ask for 'a cleric' I might help. Asking for a 'rezz (raise, etc.) cleric' and I won't.
>>Is this the way it is now?
>Get out of Crossing.
While there might be the greatest concentration, I have seen whaterrudewordyoulikehere in every city. And it was Shard which made me stop doing corpse-work.
Aside from that, people just act like that. I've put 'the ghostly voice of' on squelch before, because corpses tend to just natter on about useless things.
Personally, I don't bother with corpses, at all. From an IG perspective, you are here to serve the gods, not the players. Worshipping at the altar of rezz doesn't do that.
My policy, if they ask for 'a cleric' I might help. Asking for a 'rezz (raise, etc.) cleric' and I won't.
>>Is this the way it is now?
>Get out of Crossing.
While there might be the greatest concentration, I have seen whaterrudewordyoulikehere in every city. And it was Shard which made me stop doing corpse-work.
Aside from that, people just act like that. I've put 'the ghostly voice of' on squelch before, because corpses tend to just natter on about useless things.
Personally, I don't bother with corpses, at all. From an IG perspective, you are here to serve the gods, not the players. Worshipping at the altar of rezz doesn't do that.
>Aside from that, people just act like that. I've put 'the ghostly voice of' on squelch before, because corpses tend to just natter on about useless things.
Only my cleric has the ghostly voices squelched (actually transferred to a mostly hidden window). It was a roleplaying choice when I was still under 10th circle. Heroiklim ignores the ghosts. It is the voices of his goddesses he listens to, and the voices of the spirits can drown out the soft voice of Eylhaar (upon whom he calls for resurrections).
I do have the ghost voices in a window I can check occasionally, but rarely deign to do so. If Eylhaar wants them to be raised, Heroiklim will follow her words, not the request of the lost ghost. The only thing that can change his course of action after he's heard the word of his goddesses is an elder cleric he respects, since he assumes they would hear the Immortals' voice clearer than he does.
And Ucu, me reference to Crossing was meant to convey population-centric areas in a general sense. Muspar'i, M'Riss/Mer'Kresh, Hara'Jaal, or even Taisgath (mmmm, shadow masters) have lower populations, ergo lower cleric population, hence higher respect for clerics able and willing to rejuve/raise. There are currently 4 clerics on M'Riss, including Hero, that can raise, and you still rarely hear a call for a cleric over the gweth unless the body has a reason to request one, typically due to high number of coins or dying in a dangerous hunting area. If someone dies in Peccs/Caracals they typically depart without waiting for a drag/cleric. Works for me, since I can focus on the hunt, but Heroiklim misses the occasional communion with the spirits.
Thrall of Dergati,
Heroiklim Zortal
You sense the Vigil spell bolstering your spirit, which should last for about zero roisaen.
Only my cleric has the ghostly voices squelched (actually transferred to a mostly hidden window). It was a roleplaying choice when I was still under 10th circle. Heroiklim ignores the ghosts. It is the voices of his goddesses he listens to, and the voices of the spirits can drown out the soft voice of Eylhaar (upon whom he calls for resurrections).
I do have the ghost voices in a window I can check occasionally, but rarely deign to do so. If Eylhaar wants them to be raised, Heroiklim will follow her words, not the request of the lost ghost. The only thing that can change his course of action after he's heard the word of his goddesses is an elder cleric he respects, since he assumes they would hear the Immortals' voice clearer than he does.
And Ucu, me reference to Crossing was meant to convey population-centric areas in a general sense. Muspar'i, M'Riss/Mer'Kresh, Hara'Jaal, or even Taisgath (mmmm, shadow masters) have lower populations, ergo lower cleric population, hence higher respect for clerics able and willing to rejuve/raise. There are currently 4 clerics on M'Riss, including Hero, that can raise, and you still rarely hear a call for a cleric over the gweth unless the body has a reason to request one, typically due to high number of coins or dying in a dangerous hunting area. If someone dies in Peccs/Caracals they typically depart without waiting for a drag/cleric. Works for me, since I can focus on the hunt, but Heroiklim misses the occasional communion with the spirits.
Thrall of Dergati,
Heroiklim Zortal
You sense the Vigil spell bolstering your spirit, which should last for about zero roisaen.
>I do have the ghost voices in a window I can check occasionally
Is that possible with SF and the WFE? Or only Genie?
>And Ucu, me reference to Crossing was meant to convey population-centric areas in a general sense.
Well, ya should have used that the first time. I hear 'get out of crossings' so often as a solve-all for any 'conflict' style problem.
Is that possible with SF and the WFE? Or only Genie?
>And Ucu, me reference to Crossing was meant to convey population-centric areas in a general sense.
Well, ya should have used that the first time. I hear 'get out of crossings' so often as a solve-all for any 'conflict' style problem.
Aranthorn- if you really want to help the fallen, for enjoyments sake, get thee out of the Crossing. You really are just going to get jaded faster than you should. And most clerics get jaded about the joys of helping the dead eventually.
Or if you really insist on staying in the Crossing, invest in a gweth and just offer to come do memories- 9 out of 10 times you will get no response or the brush off- which is fine- because then you don't have to waste your time.
Now, for corpses that appear and disappear in the guild, the time honored place to drag corpses is the cellar. However, be aware, it is a time honored tradition that killing clerics in the clerics guild is fine sport, and even if the disappearing corpse doesn't have a chance to kill you himself, he will probably round up some friends, or quickly marry someone 20 circles higher than you(which is really overkill unless its a Trader) to do the job for him.
But if you do get killed, you at least will be unlikely to insist on a resurrection
Flavius
Or if you really insist on staying in the Crossing, invest in a gweth and just offer to come do memories- 9 out of 10 times you will get no response or the brush off- which is fine- because then you don't have to waste your time.
Now, for corpses that appear and disappear in the guild, the time honored place to drag corpses is the cellar. However, be aware, it is a time honored tradition that killing clerics in the clerics guild is fine sport, and even if the disappearing corpse doesn't have a chance to kill you himself, he will probably round up some friends, or quickly marry someone 20 circles higher than you(which is really overkill unless its a Trader) to do the job for him.
But if you do get killed, you at least will be unlikely to insist on a resurrection
Flavius
>[Ucu] Is that possible with SF and the WFE? Or only Genie?
Honestly have no clue. I've only used Genie for the last 2 years.
>[Ucu] Well, ya should have used that the first time. I hear 'get out of crossings' so often as a solve-all for any 'conflict' style problem.
Shoulda, coulda, but I didn't. My apologies.
>Now, for corpses that appear and disappear in the guild, the time honored place to drag corpses is the cellar. However, be aware, it is a time honored tradition that killing clerics in the clerics guild is fine sport, and even if the disappearing corpse doesn't have a chance to kill you himself, he will probably round up some friends, or quickly marry someone 20 circles higher than you(which is really overkill unless its a Trader) to do the job for him.
Agreed, but a couple of counterpoints.
- My last Xing guildsitting stint lasted just over 2 months. In that time I drug 4 rude corpses to the cellar. Only one tried to kill me for it, and was honorable enough to challenge me on his own, and accepted a non-magic duel in the courtyard versus a cowardly, heathenistic attack in the gathering hall. I would have had him had he not hid, but it did show me where I was lacking in my own combat abilities (shield and perception, big shock huh?) Summary: If you warn them you are dragging, then drag only if they persist in their rudeness, you will rarely get killed for the act, and if you want to get technical with the policy the fallen character does not have consent if you follow that procedure.
- Assuming you didn't warn them before dragging, ergo giving them consent, then you should make sure you have your defensive spells up (including revelation) for next day or two. If they attack without warning don't hesitate to blast 'em with PS/DR then follow up with AE, FF, or HoT.
- Marrying someone higher than you after the consent is given does not give the spouse consent and is grounds for warning/lockout on both of the individuals involved (unless the cleric fights back, which shows that the player accepts the situation as is and will force the GM called to declare the situation a No-GM situation).
Thrall of Dergati,
Heroiklim Zortal
You sense the Vigil spell bolstering your spirit, which should last for about zero roisaen.
Honestly have no clue. I've only used Genie for the last 2 years.
>[Ucu] Well, ya should have used that the first time. I hear 'get out of crossings' so often as a solve-all for any 'conflict' style problem.
Shoulda, coulda, but I didn't. My apologies.
>Now, for corpses that appear and disappear in the guild, the time honored place to drag corpses is the cellar. However, be aware, it is a time honored tradition that killing clerics in the clerics guild is fine sport, and even if the disappearing corpse doesn't have a chance to kill you himself, he will probably round up some friends, or quickly marry someone 20 circles higher than you(which is really overkill unless its a Trader) to do the job for him.
Agreed, but a couple of counterpoints.
- My last Xing guildsitting stint lasted just over 2 months. In that time I drug 4 rude corpses to the cellar. Only one tried to kill me for it, and was honorable enough to challenge me on his own, and accepted a non-magic duel in the courtyard versus a cowardly, heathenistic attack in the gathering hall. I would have had him had he not hid, but it did show me where I was lacking in my own combat abilities (shield and perception, big shock huh?) Summary: If you warn them you are dragging, then drag only if they persist in their rudeness, you will rarely get killed for the act, and if you want to get technical with the policy the fallen character does not have consent if you follow that procedure.
- Assuming you didn't warn them before dragging, ergo giving them consent, then you should make sure you have your defensive spells up (including revelation) for next day or two. If they attack without warning don't hesitate to blast 'em with PS/DR then follow up with AE, FF, or HoT.
- Marrying someone higher than you after the consent is given does not give the spouse consent and is grounds for warning/lockout on both of the individuals involved (unless the cleric fights back, which shows that the player accepts the situation as is and will force the GM called to declare the situation a No-GM situation).
Thrall of Dergati,
Heroiklim Zortal
You sense the Vigil spell bolstering your spirit, which should last for about zero roisaen.
I must agree with alot of others here,get out of the Cursing first.
But to me it seems your iroginal post was more out of sheer fustration of being helpless,and as at this point a non-raising Cleric,I feel yer pain.I finally got soul bond and I tell ya this much,the BEST time I've had IG thus far as a Cleric was rejuving and bonding all the corpses for the elder Cleric to raise.Takes nothing more than finding where the triage is at and then just offering to lend a hand.That way even those of us who are not raisers can still feel like we are lending a hand to the cause.
Otherwise yer gonna come across alot of players who feel they deserve a raise,but at the same time,I've found alot who were just happy with having their memories restored and a glyph.
But you will find in other areas (other as in not the Cursing) what little help you can give is much more appreciated.
Will,the unstable mind behind-
Izzit
Master Tanner in Training
Asirin
Priest Of Meraud
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But to me it seems your iroginal post was more out of sheer fustration of being helpless,and as at this point a non-raising Cleric,I feel yer pain.I finally got soul bond and I tell ya this much,the BEST time I've had IG thus far as a Cleric was rejuving and bonding all the corpses for the elder Cleric to raise.Takes nothing more than finding where the triage is at and then just offering to lend a hand.That way even those of us who are not raisers can still feel like we are lending a hand to the cause.
Otherwise yer gonna come across alot of players who feel they deserve a raise,but at the same time,I've found alot who were just happy with having their memories restored and a glyph.
But you will find in other areas (other as in not the Cursing) what little help you can give is much more appreciated.
Will,the unstable mind behind-
Izzit
Master Tanner in Training
Asirin
Priest Of Meraud
---
I feel the need to expound. Might be the beer, but eh.
>celar
I believe it is not a reportable offense to drag someone to the celar, is it not? Since it is open to anyone, etc. (it's even closer to the newly awakened than the hall, should one use the tunnels).
>gwething to do mems
Often, if you bother to do this, by the time you get there a 'cleric' will already be working on them, presumably to rezz as well.
Unfortunately, many people simply opperate a cleric mule to rez when people cry 'help I am dead and also stupid so did not depart for 4 hours and also need an empath to heal me'.
>celar
I believe it is not a reportable offense to drag someone to the celar, is it not? Since it is open to anyone, etc. (it's even closer to the newly awakened than the hall, should one use the tunnels).
>gwething to do mems
Often, if you bother to do this, by the time you get there a 'cleric' will already be working on them, presumably to rezz as well.
Unfortunately, many people simply opperate a cleric mule to rez when people cry 'help I am dead and also stupid so did not depart for 4 hours and also need an empath to heal me'.
>I believe it is not a reportable offense to drag someone to the celar, is it not? Since it is open to anyone, etc. (it's even closer to the newly awakened than the hall, should one use the tunnels).
The act of dragging them to the cellar, in itself, is not a "reportable" offense. It can, however, lead to a warning if your dragging them there leads to their auto-departing. You are, in effect, preventing them from getting clerical help. You can refuse service, but can not prevent another character from helping.
>Unfortunately, many people simply opperate a cleric mule to rez when people cry 'help I am dead and also stupid so did not depart for 4 hours and also need an empath to heal me'.
I find nothing unfortunate in that scenario... but many players consider Heroiklim a mule since I will, and have, logged him in simply to raise someone then gone back to the character I was playing before the distraction. Just as I'll log in my moon mage to do a locate for someone or make a CJ, or log in my empath to heal someone. Gods forbid I log in both my empath and my cleric AT THE SAME TIME so I can raise someone. I r a bad rper.
Thrall of Dergati,
Heroiklim Zortal
You sense the Vigil spell bolstering your spirit, which should last for about zero roisaen.
The act of dragging them to the cellar, in itself, is not a "reportable" offense. It can, however, lead to a warning if your dragging them there leads to their auto-departing. You are, in effect, preventing them from getting clerical help. You can refuse service, but can not prevent another character from helping.
>Unfortunately, many people simply opperate a cleric mule to rez when people cry 'help I am dead and also stupid so did not depart for 4 hours and also need an empath to heal me'.
I find nothing unfortunate in that scenario... but many players consider Heroiklim a mule since I will, and have, logged him in simply to raise someone then gone back to the character I was playing before the distraction. Just as I'll log in my moon mage to do a locate for someone or make a CJ, or log in my empath to heal someone. Gods forbid I log in both my empath and my cleric AT THE SAME TIME so I can raise someone. I r a bad rper.
Thrall of Dergati,
Heroiklim Zortal
You sense the Vigil spell bolstering your spirit, which should last for about zero roisaen.
Why can't you allow two other players enjoy the game how they choose? Live and let live. If you can't do that then maybe you have the cleric guild confused with the christain guild. It is arrogant of any one to think how they view the game is how others should be forced to view the game.
Also dragging a corpse some place to reduce thier chances of getting aid is a no-no. At the very least you should realise the corpse would be with in thier rights to retaliate once alive. This was explained to me by a GH a few years back when i was involved in such a case.
Halfling,
http://home.comcast.net/~toolshed47/
Also dragging a corpse some place to reduce thier chances of getting aid is a no-no. At the very least you should realise the corpse would be with in thier rights to retaliate once alive. This was explained to me by a GH a few years back when i was involved in such a case.
Halfling,
http://home.comcast.net/~toolshed47/
>Also dragging a corpse some place to reduce thier chances of getting aid is a no-no. At the very least you should realise the corpse would be with in thier rights to retaliate once alive. This was explained to me by a GH a few years back when i was involved in such a case.
That's what I said.
Thrall of Dergati,
Heroiklim Zortal
You sense the Vigil spell bolstering your spirit, which should last for about zero roisaen.
That's what I said.
Thrall of Dergati,
Heroiklim Zortal
You sense the Vigil spell bolstering your spirit, which should last for about zero roisaen.
>Clerics only exist to bless my weapons, raise me, and uncurse me. All other time should be spent practicing magics (not TM nobody likes someone able to defend themself), and training up a moon mage to gate deaders.
You forgot the empath on a secondary account. <3
Thrall of Dergati,
Heroiklim Zortal
You sense the Vigil spell bolstering your spirit, which should last for about zero roisaen.
You forgot the empath on a secondary account. <3
Thrall of Dergati,
Heroiklim Zortal
You sense the Vigil spell bolstering your spirit, which should last for about zero roisaen.
My favorite kind of deader is the "I'll wait for a resurrecting cleric" type.
Why? Because I know that it is sheer stubbornness (and in many cases, stupidity) that is causing them to waste large amounts of their time that could be spent doing something more entertaining or productive, particularly if they stay in-game instead of logging out.
Don't treat them as being demeaning or insulting with their request. Instead, view them as the source of amusement that they so richly are.
Syralon
Cleric of Ushnish
Why? Because I know that it is sheer stubbornness (and in many cases, stupidity) that is causing them to waste large amounts of their time that could be spent doing something more entertaining or productive, particularly if they stay in-game instead of logging out.
Don't treat them as being demeaning or insulting with their request. Instead, view them as the source of amusement that they so richly are.
Syralon
Cleric of Ushnish
>>Also dragging a corpse some place to reduce thier chances of getting aid is a no-no. At the very least you should realise the corpse would be with in thier rights to retaliate once alive. This was explained to me by a GH a few years back when i was involved in such a case.
Let them talk to the Monk in Fostra Square. Thats actually helping them.
Let them talk to the Monk in Fostra Square. Thats actually helping them.
"Also dragging a corpse some place to reduce thier chances of getting aid is a no-no. At the very least you should realise the corpse would be with in thier rights to retaliate once alive. This was explained to me by a GH a few years back when i was involved in such a case"
Interesting thoughts- first of all, I very, very rarely drag a corpse anywhere- probably have only done it 3 times total. Never been warned, and frankly if it comes up, I will take my chances. Not even sure what policy would be broken- especially if the corpse has memories all taken care of and is insisting on a resurrection- remember- resurrection is not a right. Dragging a corpse 2 rooms away, with full memories would be an interesting warning to get.
As far as consent- not sure if doing anything to a corpse can be consent. Is slapping a corpse consent? Vice versa, is a mouthy corpse giving me consent? Here is my take on it though- the one time I got killed as a consequence of dragging a mouthy corpse away, her spouse went to great lengths to make sure I gave him consent before he killed me. And since he and his spouse are rather frequent participants in such things, I suspect they didn't think they had consent merely for me dragging a foul mouthed corpse away.
But, I wouldn't have reported it in either case. I am not against reporting, but will reserve that for situations that I am an unwilling participant in.
Oh- every time there is a call for a resurrecting cleric, just makes me happy to be able to shrug my shoulders and know I can't help.
Interesting thoughts- first of all, I very, very rarely drag a corpse anywhere- probably have only done it 3 times total. Never been warned, and frankly if it comes up, I will take my chances. Not even sure what policy would be broken- especially if the corpse has memories all taken care of and is insisting on a resurrection- remember- resurrection is not a right. Dragging a corpse 2 rooms away, with full memories would be an interesting warning to get.
As far as consent- not sure if doing anything to a corpse can be consent. Is slapping a corpse consent? Vice versa, is a mouthy corpse giving me consent? Here is my take on it though- the one time I got killed as a consequence of dragging a mouthy corpse away, her spouse went to great lengths to make sure I gave him consent before he killed me. And since he and his spouse are rather frequent participants in such things, I suspect they didn't think they had consent merely for me dragging a foul mouthed corpse away.
But, I wouldn't have reported it in either case. I am not against reporting, but will reserve that for situations that I am an unwilling participant in.
Oh- every time there is a call for a resurrecting cleric, just makes me happy to be able to shrug my shoulders and know I can't help.
My fvorite new line living back in the cursing again is "i'm not a cleric." Works like a charm on those rude deaders.
Once Mother Teel now swindler Teel.
P. S. I have never been killed for dragging a mouthy deader to the cellar and i have dragged probably a dozen of them there.
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Once Mother Teel now swindler Teel.
P. S. I have never been killed for dragging a mouthy deader to the cellar and i have dragged probably a dozen of them there.
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You're not in any condition to be searching around!
>>[Teel] P. S. I have never been killed for dragging a mouthy deader to the cellar and i have dragged probably a dozen of them there.
Since you brought it up, you dragged one of my characters to the cellar once. I was laughing so hard... there were tears... and DrPepper on the monitor... thanks for bringing that up, I'm grinning from the memory.
Thrall of Dergati,
Heroiklim Zortal
You sense the Vigil spell bolstering your spirit, which should last for about zero roisaen.
Since you brought it up, you dragged one of my characters to the cellar once. I was laughing so hard... there were tears... and DrPepper on the monitor... thanks for bringing that up, I'm grinning from the memory.
Thrall of Dergati,
Heroiklim Zortal
You sense the Vigil spell bolstering your spirit, which should last for about zero roisaen.
This is gonna be a real sit-downer.
>Hey all, I don't get spend as much time in Elanthia as I used to and just recently I noticed how much things have changed, at least as far as deaders go. It seems
Not really, it's just gotten much, much worse than it ever had been due to the fact that Clerics have been DR's designated victims since Skralthaen put us behind the eight-ball. I wish they could have made a better call about a)Infusion b)Rezz 2.0.
>that only those who have rezz need worry about helping the dead as it is now unofficial (at least I hope) policy that all dead are entitled a raise. At least
Here's our policy, kiddo: don't help a deader.
>that's the message I was given during the last consumption outbreak. They simply waited for me to patch their memories and get them glyphed. As soon they learned I couldn't raise them and there wasn't any other clerics around who could, they just left the game, coming back every five minutes to check for an elder cleric, of course.
Haha. Classic deader DR mechanics abuse. Classic.
>Naturally this ticked me off royally, as there was a small handful who were willing to depart, and this nonsense wasted my mana and delayed my getting to them.
Of course. Sad times we live in, son.
>Soon there was a pileup of "magic" corpses, disappearing and reappearing, complaining about the lack of a rezzing cleric. When I questioned one of
Oh God. I'd trade you a certain someone's home phone number for a log of that. OMG.
>these annoying buggers he told me to mind my business, this was the way it was now, and it was supported by the elder clerics. I didn't believe him until the older
Bull. If you're dead, you have one option: depart. Everything else is icing on the cake.
>clerics came in and rezzed everyone who was "good enough to wait". I questioned the clerics about this
Son, that's just the Crossing for you. They're there for a reason, and they're looked down upon for a reason. Crossing-dwelling Clerics above a certain circle have probably been placed in exile for the greater good. Realpolitik in practice for you.
>and I got basically the same response I got from the deader. Is this the way it is now? We reward rude corpse by allowing them to demand raises? Is this behavior really permitted by the gods and by clerics themselves? Am I in error by thinking there is
I wish you'd name names so we could out the snerts.
Oh. Helpful hints which keep Me in DR and out of law school (for the time being). Deaders do a lot of annoying things, such as talk, moan, and not depart. Squelch all of it. Squelch strings on your friend. The only thing you can't squelch is a SEND from a GM. Almost everything else that doesn't get you killed can either be highlighted (if it's cool, like a Moon rising or setting) or squelched (if it's annoying, like a teaching message or a Prydaen who hasnt had its tail chopped off).
>Helping the fallen was what drew me here in the first place, but I'm beginning to think I've wasted many years in the wrong guild. Is there nothing the gods can do?
>Father Aranthorn, Journeyman Cleric of Elanthia
Stick with it, Father. You'll do all right in the end. Deaders have come to be extremely spoiled. As of now you're on sabbatical. Nonomis himself will take you through the Raise quest when you are ready. Until then, hunt, drink, train survival, practice magic, hunt, and drink.
Or you could come to Aesry. It's where the cool Clerics hang out: moss meys and snoblins will keep you in hog heaven for a long time, a long time. Plus, happy hour begins whenever I says so.
Love,
Father Ainandil, Cleric of Saemaus
>Korsik says, "OMG. Morons on the gweth."
>Nickels says, "They're hiding. They're in their magical boxes."
>Ainandil cackles!
>Gridaksma says, "Can't explain, won't apologize."
>Hey all, I don't get spend as much time in Elanthia as I used to and just recently I noticed how much things have changed, at least as far as deaders go. It seems
Not really, it's just gotten much, much worse than it ever had been due to the fact that Clerics have been DR's designated victims since Skralthaen put us behind the eight-ball. I wish they could have made a better call about a)Infusion b)Rezz 2.0.
>that only those who have rezz need worry about helping the dead as it is now unofficial (at least I hope) policy that all dead are entitled a raise. At least
Here's our policy, kiddo: don't help a deader.
>that's the message I was given during the last consumption outbreak. They simply waited for me to patch their memories and get them glyphed. As soon they learned I couldn't raise them and there wasn't any other clerics around who could, they just left the game, coming back every five minutes to check for an elder cleric, of course.
Haha. Classic deader DR mechanics abuse. Classic.
>Naturally this ticked me off royally, as there was a small handful who were willing to depart, and this nonsense wasted my mana and delayed my getting to them.
Of course. Sad times we live in, son.
>Soon there was a pileup of "magic" corpses, disappearing and reappearing, complaining about the lack of a rezzing cleric. When I questioned one of
Oh God. I'd trade you a certain someone's home phone number for a log of that. OMG.
>these annoying buggers he told me to mind my business, this was the way it was now, and it was supported by the elder clerics. I didn't believe him until the older
Bull. If you're dead, you have one option: depart. Everything else is icing on the cake.
>clerics came in and rezzed everyone who was "good enough to wait". I questioned the clerics about this
Son, that's just the Crossing for you. They're there for a reason, and they're looked down upon for a reason. Crossing-dwelling Clerics above a certain circle have probably been placed in exile for the greater good. Realpolitik in practice for you.
>and I got basically the same response I got from the deader. Is this the way it is now? We reward rude corpse by allowing them to demand raises? Is this behavior really permitted by the gods and by clerics themselves? Am I in error by thinking there is
I wish you'd name names so we could out the snerts.
Oh. Helpful hints which keep Me in DR and out of law school (for the time being). Deaders do a lot of annoying things, such as talk, moan, and not depart. Squelch all of it. Squelch strings on your friend. The only thing you can't squelch is a SEND from a GM. Almost everything else that doesn't get you killed can either be highlighted (if it's cool, like a Moon rising or setting) or squelched (if it's annoying, like a teaching message or a Prydaen who hasnt had its tail chopped off).
>Helping the fallen was what drew me here in the first place, but I'm beginning to think I've wasted many years in the wrong guild. Is there nothing the gods can do?
>Father Aranthorn, Journeyman Cleric of Elanthia
Stick with it, Father. You'll do all right in the end. Deaders have come to be extremely spoiled. As of now you're on sabbatical. Nonomis himself will take you through the Raise quest when you are ready. Until then, hunt, drink, train survival, practice magic, hunt, and drink.
Or you could come to Aesry. It's where the cool Clerics hang out: moss meys and snoblins will keep you in hog heaven for a long time, a long time. Plus, happy hour begins whenever I says so.
Love,
Father Ainandil, Cleric of Saemaus
>Korsik says, "OMG. Morons on the gweth."
>Nickels says, "They're hiding. They're in their magical boxes."
>Ainandil cackles!
>Gridaksma says, "Can't explain, won't apologize."
>Key words, "That may be..." No need for the sarcasm.
But darlin', sarcasm is another service we offer!
>*mutters something about the stupid board monkeys and how they must always take one tiny part of a post and blow it out of proportion* I'm sure that there are
OHNOES! Trolls on the message boards.
>clerics who help because they want to, I'm sure there are also clerics who feel that their words fall on deaf ears and no longer help people. I'm sure that their is
Immortals.doc. Pick a new god. My God is alcohol, dextromethorphan hydrobromide (look it up, but be careful, it's not for amateurs), aluminum foil (it makes a lovely hat) and Elabela.
>a myriad of different people who are clerics and who all have their own reasons for becoming a cleric. Maybe
I became a Cleric when I realized that Paladins are victims and Clerics can pull just about any stunt they want and get away with it. The business jargon for that is "Executive Privilege."
>there are clerics who are, "Greedy favor munchers."
No. Just children. They serve their purpose.
>I'll thank you to not put words in my mouth since that wasn't what I meant. This is the first time I've opted to try playing a cleric, and I usually only paid attention to the details of the guilds I've previously been in, so I didn't know that there was no benefit to a higher number of favors. I've overheard clerics
You're wrong, but thanks for playing.
>boasting about how many favors they have blah blah blah so I assumed it was a good thing.
>River
It's called a 'running gag,' hon. DragonRealms has a lot of 'em. Also -- nota bene -- places like Olwydd, Arcane Wolf, and whatnot are notorious for giving out bad information. Kalira hasn't updated her site in ages, and she's sort of the Gold Standard. Ah do believe Hero has taken over, but Ah could be wrong.
Mastery of the subtle art of manipulating the spirit realm is not acquired overnight and the only sure way to success is the way the rest of us learned: cribbing from Valkri, who did it the hard way in the first place.
It's called 'initiation' and it is supposed to be an ordeal.
Love,
Father Ainandil, Cleric of Saemaus
>Korsik says, "OMG. Morons on the gweth."
>Nickels says, "They're hiding. They're in their magical boxes."
>Ainandil cackles!
>Gridaksma says, "Can't explain, won't apologize."
But darlin', sarcasm is another service we offer!
>*mutters something about the stupid board monkeys and how they must always take one tiny part of a post and blow it out of proportion* I'm sure that there are
OHNOES! Trolls on the message boards.
>clerics who help because they want to, I'm sure there are also clerics who feel that their words fall on deaf ears and no longer help people. I'm sure that their is
Immortals.doc. Pick a new god. My God is alcohol, dextromethorphan hydrobromide (look it up, but be careful, it's not for amateurs), aluminum foil (it makes a lovely hat) and Elabela.
>a myriad of different people who are clerics and who all have their own reasons for becoming a cleric. Maybe
I became a Cleric when I realized that Paladins are victims and Clerics can pull just about any stunt they want and get away with it. The business jargon for that is "Executive Privilege."
>there are clerics who are, "Greedy favor munchers."
No. Just children. They serve their purpose.
>I'll thank you to not put words in my mouth since that wasn't what I meant. This is the first time I've opted to try playing a cleric, and I usually only paid attention to the details of the guilds I've previously been in, so I didn't know that there was no benefit to a higher number of favors. I've overheard clerics
You're wrong, but thanks for playing.
>boasting about how many favors they have blah blah blah so I assumed it was a good thing.
>River
It's called a 'running gag,' hon. DragonRealms has a lot of 'em. Also -- nota bene -- places like Olwydd, Arcane Wolf, and whatnot are notorious for giving out bad information. Kalira hasn't updated her site in ages, and she's sort of the Gold Standard. Ah do believe Hero has taken over, but Ah could be wrong.
Mastery of the subtle art of manipulating the spirit realm is not acquired overnight and the only sure way to success is the way the rest of us learned: cribbing from Valkri, who did it the hard way in the first place.
It's called 'initiation' and it is supposed to be an ordeal.
Love,
Father Ainandil, Cleric of Saemaus
>Korsik says, "OMG. Morons on the gweth."
>Nickels says, "They're hiding. They're in their magical boxes."
>Ainandil cackles!
>Gridaksma says, "Can't explain, won't apologize."
>Summary: If you warn them you are dragging, then drag only if they persist in their rudeness, you will rarely get killed for the act, and if you want to get technical with the policy the fallen character does not have consent if you follow that procedure.
Hero, you don't really have to play policy Nazi on the boards. The GMs already know that a huge majority of the player base abuses Clerics. Why do you think we got brand in the first place? Sheesh.
>- Assuming you didn't warn them before dragging, ergo giving them consent, then you should make sure you have your defensive spells up (including revelation) for next day or two. If they attack without warning don't hesitate to blast 'em with PS/DR then follow up with AE, FF, or HoT.
AE first. Don't fiddle around with toy spells. AE is your baby. It'll work indoors soon enough.
The only excuse for the tactical use of other spells when you have a case of 'Moron Fighting with God' is if you're 50th+, have an Energy Manacles (or other fun & useful spell) scroll committed to memory, and worship Trothfang.
>Marrying someone higher than you after the consent is given does not give the spouse consent and is grounds for warning/lockout on both of the individuals involved
Lovely. Heroiklim the rule biter. *hangs his head and sighs*
>(unless the cleric fights back, which shows that the player accepts the situation as is and will force the GM called to declare the situation a No-GM situation).
>Thrall of Dergati,
>Heroiklim Zortal
At least you're worshipping the Goddess.
Some days, son...
Love,
Father Ainandil, Cleric of Saemaus
>Korsik says, "OMG. Morons on the gweth."
>Nickels says, "They're hiding. They're in their magical boxes."
>Ainandil cackles!
>Gridaksma says, "Can't explain, won't apologize."
Hero, you don't really have to play policy Nazi on the boards. The GMs already know that a huge majority of the player base abuses Clerics. Why do you think we got brand in the first place? Sheesh.
>- Assuming you didn't warn them before dragging, ergo giving them consent, then you should make sure you have your defensive spells up (including revelation) for next day or two. If they attack without warning don't hesitate to blast 'em with PS/DR then follow up with AE, FF, or HoT.
AE first. Don't fiddle around with toy spells. AE is your baby. It'll work indoors soon enough.
The only excuse for the tactical use of other spells when you have a case of 'Moron Fighting with God' is if you're 50th+, have an Energy Manacles (or other fun & useful spell) scroll committed to memory, and worship Trothfang.
>Marrying someone higher than you after the consent is given does not give the spouse consent and is grounds for warning/lockout on both of the individuals involved
Lovely. Heroiklim the rule biter. *hangs his head and sighs*
>(unless the cleric fights back, which shows that the player accepts the situation as is and will force the GM called to declare the situation a No-GM situation).
>Thrall of Dergati,
>Heroiklim Zortal
At least you're worshipping the Goddess.
Some days, son...
Love,
Father Ainandil, Cleric of Saemaus
>Korsik says, "OMG. Morons on the gweth."
>Nickels says, "They're hiding. They're in their magical boxes."
>Ainandil cackles!
>Gridaksma says, "Can't explain, won't apologize."
>Clerics only exist to bless my weapons, raise me, and uncurse me. All other time should be spent practicing magics (not TM nobody likes someone able to defend themself), and training up a moon mage to gate deaders.
>I am --- Navak
Priceless.
Love,
Father Ainandil, Cleric of Saemaus
>Korsik says, "OMG. Morons on the gweth."
>Nickels says, "They're hiding. They're in their magical boxes."
>Ainandil cackles!
>Gridaksma says, "Can't explain, won't apologize."
>I am --- Navak
Priceless.
Love,
Father Ainandil, Cleric of Saemaus
>Korsik says, "OMG. Morons on the gweth."
>Nickels says, "They're hiding. They're in their magical boxes."
>Ainandil cackles!
>Gridaksma says, "Can't explain, won't apologize."
>Ah do believe Hero has taken over, but Ah could be wrong.
Not at the moment. Ran out of diskspace on the free domain... however, that will soon change. I just setup a new domain/web hoster, so keep a look out for a transfer of the old site "soon".
Old site = April timeframe, so all the files I'm mirroring will be back up for download. No more having to find me on AIM to get a copy of Kitrinx' Crutch, and the empaths rejoiced.
The only thing I've decided completely against is putting any sort of circle calculator on my site. I may put the reqs up there if enough people ask, but I don't look at reqs more than once a month anymore... and only look at my experience when a script calls for it... numbers take away from the "suspended disbelief" required for roleplaying, so I tend to look at them as little as possible.
* This assumes I'm not in my testing/experimentation phase, in which case I'm probably hitting F12 (exp all) every 5 seconds or so for posterity. *
Thrall of Dergati,
Heroiklim Zortal
You sense the Vigil spell bolstering your spirit, which should last for about zero roisaen.
Not at the moment. Ran out of diskspace on the free domain... however, that will soon change. I just setup a new domain/web hoster, so keep a look out for a transfer of the old site "soon".
Old site = April timeframe, so all the files I'm mirroring will be back up for download. No more having to find me on AIM to get a copy of Kitrinx' Crutch, and the empaths rejoiced.
The only thing I've decided completely against is putting any sort of circle calculator on my site. I may put the reqs up there if enough people ask, but I don't look at reqs more than once a month anymore... and only look at my experience when a script calls for it... numbers take away from the "suspended disbelief" required for roleplaying, so I tend to look at them as little as possible.
* This assumes I'm not in my testing/experimentation phase, in which case I'm probably hitting F12 (exp all) every 5 seconds or so for posterity. *
Thrall of Dergati,
Heroiklim Zortal
You sense the Vigil spell bolstering your spirit, which should last for about zero roisaen.
>Lovely. Heroiklim the rule biter. *hangs his head and sighs*
When I'm giving advice to a < 20th circle cleric potentially getting their backside handed to them by a mid-circle character, then yes, I'll explain the policy to them.
exp Policy
Scholarship: 269 37%
Reporting: 6 66% (I listened to a class once from Raidiant)
Thrall of Dergati,
Heroiklim Zortal
You sense the Vigil spell bolstering your spirit, which should last for about zero roisaen.
When I'm giving advice to a < 20th circle cleric potentially getting their backside handed to them by a mid-circle character, then yes, I'll explain the policy to them.
exp Policy
Scholarship: 269 37%
Reporting: 6 66% (I listened to a class once from Raidiant)
Thrall of Dergati,
Heroiklim Zortal
You sense the Vigil spell bolstering your spirit, which should last for about zero roisaen.
>My fvorite new line living back in the cursing again is "i'm not a cleric." Works like a charm on those rude deaders.
Syntax is 'title pre list criminal'; 'title pre list weapon' (Minion always works and requires absolutely no explanation whatsoever), 'title pre list survival2' and 'title pre list survival3' are also good ones. I can't be bothered to look up the requirements, but if you can get the title 'Stalker,' you ought to wear it. Then amuse yourself by following around WMs running their powerwalking script and doing fun things such as growl at them, bite them, hiss and boo at them, etc. When they stop to ask what your problem is (and they will -- eventually), bow, introduce yourself as their designated DragonRealms stalker, and join their group.
You can also squelch on 'says.' For optimum results (the lamers are catching on), you'll probably also have to squelch on 'whispers'. :-)
>Once Mother Teel now swindler Teel.
>P. S. I have never been killed for dragging a mouthy deader to the cellar and i have dragged probably a dozen of them there.
Ack, Teel! scream
Darling goober, this time when you IM Me, ask for the stupid scholarship script. Stupid DragonRealms dimple patrol. mutta
Love,
Father Ainandil, Cleric of Saemaus
>Korsik says, "OMG. Morons on the gweth."
>Nickels says, "They're hiding. They're in their magical boxes."
>Ainandil cackles!
>Gridaksma says, "Can't explain, won't apologize."
Syntax is 'title pre list criminal'; 'title pre list weapon' (Minion always works and requires absolutely no explanation whatsoever), 'title pre list survival2' and 'title pre list survival3' are also good ones. I can't be bothered to look up the requirements, but if you can get the title 'Stalker,' you ought to wear it. Then amuse yourself by following around WMs running their powerwalking script and doing fun things such as growl at them, bite them, hiss and boo at them, etc. When they stop to ask what your problem is (and they will -- eventually), bow, introduce yourself as their designated DragonRealms stalker, and join their group.
You can also squelch on 'says.' For optimum results (the lamers are catching on), you'll probably also have to squelch on 'whispers'. :-)
>Once Mother Teel now swindler Teel.
>P. S. I have never been killed for dragging a mouthy deader to the cellar and i have dragged probably a dozen of them there.
Ack, Teel! scream
Darling goober, this time when you IM Me, ask for the stupid scholarship script. Stupid DragonRealms dimple patrol. mutta
Love,
Father Ainandil, Cleric of Saemaus
>Korsik says, "OMG. Morons on the gweth."
>Nickels says, "They're hiding. They're in their magical boxes."
>Ainandil cackles!
>Gridaksma says, "Can't explain, won't apologize."
Quoth our Hero:
>Not at the moment. Ran out of diskspace on the free domain... however, that will soon change. I just setup a new domain/web hoster, so keep a look out for a transfer of the old site "soon".
>Hero
Capisce. Ah well. You should just take over ArcaneWolf and come bug Me in game whenever you can't figure something out.
Love,
Father Ainandil, Cleric of Saemaus
>Korsik says, "OMG. Morons on the gweth."
>Nickels says, "They're hiding. They're in their magical boxes."
>Ainandil cackles!
>Gridaksma says, "Can't explain, won't apologize."
>Not at the moment. Ran out of diskspace on the free domain... however, that will soon change. I just setup a new domain/web hoster, so keep a look out for a transfer of the old site "soon".
>Hero
Capisce. Ah well. You should just take over ArcaneWolf and come bug Me in game whenever you can't figure something out.
Love,
Father Ainandil, Cleric of Saemaus
>Korsik says, "OMG. Morons on the gweth."
>Nickels says, "They're hiding. They're in their magical boxes."
>Ainandil cackles!
>Gridaksma says, "Can't explain, won't apologize."
>When I'm giving advice to a < 20th circle cleric potentially getting their backside handed to them by a mid-circle character, then yes, I'll explain the policy to them.
Meh. Teel's in the Crossing. She has our back. And I have a girl there, too. But who, Ah ain't tellin'.
>Reporting: 6 66% (I listened to a class once from Raidiant)
>Thrall of Dergati,
>Heroiklim Zortal
Ewwwwww! Heroiklim caught cooties from Raidiant! Eeewwwwwww!
Love,
Father Ainandil, Cleric of Saemaus
>Korsik says, "OMG. Morons on the gweth."
>Nickels says, "They're hiding. They're in their magical boxes."
>Ainandil cackles!
>Gridaksma says, "Can't explain, won't apologize."
Meh. Teel's in the Crossing. She has our back. And I have a girl there, too. But who, Ah ain't tellin'.
>Reporting: 6 66% (I listened to a class once from Raidiant)
>Thrall of Dergati,
>Heroiklim Zortal
Ewwwwww! Heroiklim caught cooties from Raidiant! Eeewwwwwww!
Love,
Father Ainandil, Cleric of Saemaus
>Korsik says, "OMG. Morons on the gweth."
>Nickels says, "They're hiding. They're in their magical boxes."
>Ainandil cackles!
>Gridaksma says, "Can't explain, won't apologize."
>>Since you brought it up, you dragged one of my characters to the cellar once. I was laughing so hard... there were tears... and DrPepper on the monitor... thanks for bringing that up, I'm grinning from the memory.
Thrall of Dergati,
Heroiklim Zortal
Oh that is too funny Hero! And now there is coffee on my keyboard. If I had only know it was you... At least I know ya don't hold a grudge dear.
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You're not in any condition to be searching around!
Thrall of Dergati,
Heroiklim Zortal
Oh that is too funny Hero! And now there is coffee on my keyboard. If I had only know it was you... At least I know ya don't hold a grudge dear.
search
You're not in any condition to be searching around!
>Oh that is too funny Hero! And now there is coffee on my keyboard. If I had only know it was you... At least I know ya don't hold a grudge dear.
Everyone has their Teel story, dearest daughter.
You should go hunt with Pops in Shard and make him teach you scholarship so you can get that bloody spell.
Love,
Father Ainandil, Cleric of Saemaus
>Korsik says, "OMG. Morons on the gweth."
>Nickels says, "They're hiding. They're in their magical boxes."
>Ainandil cackles!
>Gridaksma says, "Can't explain, won't apologize."
Everyone has their Teel story, dearest daughter.
You should go hunt with Pops in Shard and make him teach you scholarship so you can get that bloody spell.
Love,
Father Ainandil, Cleric of Saemaus
>Korsik says, "OMG. Morons on the gweth."
>Nickels says, "They're hiding. They're in their magical boxes."
>Ainandil cackles!
>Gridaksma says, "Can't explain, won't apologize."
I went into moss meys with high 90s, i'd try 1 on 1 at first, with 150 parry, 130 evasion and 120 shield and 125 Multi I'm just now being able to handle 3 at melee without getting the crap kicked out of me. BTW still teaching Parry at 150, woot
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