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I am just starting to see people one room away from me on a more regular basis.
I am noticing that if I am in one room and sense people, then go to a neighboring room and perceive health again, If I see the people from the room I was just in, I don't seem to learn anything.
Is this just me or is this how it works?
Ningen banji saiou ga uma
that's how it works, the people you perceive have timers associated with them, you only learn from new people or after the timer expires. A typical method is to go perceive shop keepers and hopefully pick up passerbys
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As long as there is someone or something in the room you are perceiving in, you get the same experience, whether you had just perceived them or not. One person, 20 people, hidden people, 10 npcs, people bleeding or poisoned, it's all the same as having one person in your group and going around perceiving health. There is a timer on the room you actually perceive in.
~Purehand
A neatly dressed guard glances at the board. Spotting something of interest, he pauses to write down the name of Purehand in a small book.
~Purehand
A neatly dressed guard glances at the board. Spotting something of interest, he pauses to write down the name of Purehand in a small book.
<< that's how it works, the people you perceive have timers associated with them, you only learn from new people or after the timer expires. A typical method is to go perceive shop keepers and hopefully pick up passerbys
There is also a room component. If you have a guardian spirit you can have it follow you from room to room and perceive health in each room after the short timer (10 seconds, I think). Or you can have a friend join you and perc health in each room as you move. In either case you learn from your companion fresh in each room.
There is also a room component. If you have a guardian spirit you can have it follow you from room to room and perceive health in each room after the short timer (10 seconds, I think). Or you can have a friend join you and perc health in each room as you move. In either case you learn from your companion fresh in each room.
< that's how it works, the people you perceive have timers associated with them, you only learn from new people or after the timer expires. A typical method is to go perceive shop keepers and hopefully pick up passerbys
I was just confused because if I perceive health in one room and only see the people in that room, I learn. Then if I go west one room, and perceive health, this time seeing the people in my room and the people in the room east of me, I won't learn even though the room I'm in has new people and is a new room that I didn't just see.
Ningen banji saiou ga uma
I was just confused because if I perceive health in one room and only see the people in that room, I learn. Then if I go west one room, and perceive health, this time seeing the people in my room and the people in the room east of me, I won't learn even though the room I'm in has new people and is a new room that I didn't just see.
Ningen banji saiou ga uma
Just because you didn't move up a mindstate, does not mean you didn't learn. If it is indeed a new room (the timer has expired since the last time you perc'ed there) and there is something (anything) to perceive in that room, you will learn. I can mindlock in a tiny area with someone in my group, sensing the exact same people in adjacent rooms with mid 500's in empathy.
~Purehand
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>Then if I go west one room, and perceive health, this time seeing the people in my room and the people in the room east of me, I won't learn even though the room I'm in has new people and is a new room that I didn't just see.
This is not the case unless you recently perceived in the other room. The timer is on the room, not the people/npcs you perceive.
This is not the case unless you recently perceived in the other room. The timer is on the room, not the people/npcs you perceive.
I have to agree with what Purehand said here. If you are on a postwall rank, you probably won't be seeing a huge increase every time you perceive health. However, when I'm approaching a wall, I regularly do.
Also, nothing I have ever experienced leads me to believe that the number of people/creatures you are perceiving has anything to do with the amount of experience you gain when perceiving health. I learn just as well walking around the garden perceiving the same people around as I do highly populated areas like the guildhall or the green.
Shaunn
Also, nothing I have ever experienced leads me to believe that the number of people/creatures you are perceiving has anything to do with the amount of experience you gain when perceiving health. I learn just as well walking around the garden perceiving the same people around as I do highly populated areas like the guildhall or the green.
Shaunn
>Just because you didn't move up a mindstate, does not mean you didn't learn.
That's probably the case, thanks!
This confused me...
[Ratha, Monument Square]
Ivy covered iron fencing culminates in an elaborate gate that opens up onto a wide plaza. You also see a Malk'smo constable, an elaborate marble monument of the regal Sarkhhl Smo'neh, and an elaborate gate.
Obvious paths: east, west.
>perc heal
You close your eyes, drawing all your thoughts inward, and then slowly reach out to sense the life essences of those around you...
You sense:
The presence of a Malk'smo constable.
The presence of a palace guard.
Roundtime: 8 seconds
...where is that guard hiding?
Ningen banji saiou ga uma
That's probably the case, thanks!
This confused me...
[Ratha, Monument Square]
Ivy covered iron fencing culminates in an elaborate gate that opens up onto a wide plaza. You also see a Malk'smo constable, an elaborate marble monument of the regal Sarkhhl Smo'neh, and an elaborate gate.
Obvious paths: east, west.
>perc heal
You close your eyes, drawing all your thoughts inward, and then slowly reach out to sense the life essences of those around you...
You sense:
The presence of a Malk'smo constable.
The presence of a palace guard.
Roundtime: 8 seconds
...where is that guard hiding?
Ningen banji saiou ga uma
>You can sense most creatures who live "behind the scenes" as it were.
Are any NPCs considered fellow Empaths by the system? For example, in Crossing Martyr Saedelthorp and her apprentice, Kaiva, are probably Empaths. Yet when trying to perceive them, they don't show up as Empaths.
Elemancer Opieus, Journeyman Warrior Mage of Elanthia
>Who planned and orchestrated all of this?
>Robot Ninja Pirates.
>We can do even better than this.
>Vampire Zombie Robot Ninja Nazi
Are any NPCs considered fellow Empaths by the system? For example, in Crossing Martyr Saedelthorp and her apprentice, Kaiva, are probably Empaths. Yet when trying to perceive them, they don't show up as Empaths.
Elemancer Opieus, Journeyman Warrior Mage of Elanthia
>Who planned and orchestrated all of this?
>Robot Ninja Pirates.
>We can do even better than this.
>Vampire Zombie Robot Ninja Nazi
>>Are any NPCs considered fellow Empaths by the system? For example, in Crossing Martyr Saedelthorp and her apprentice, Kaiva, are probably Empaths. Yet when trying to perceive them, they don't show up as Empaths.
Very strange, they do when I perceive health. I'm not sure if actually determining whether someone is an empath takes more ability to begin with or not. Generally speaking, when my ability to sense further rooms out expands I see the empaths first, that would seem backward to what you are describing.
Shaunn
Very strange, they do when I perceive health. I'm not sure if actually determining whether someone is an empath takes more ability to begin with or not. Generally speaking, when my ability to sense further rooms out expands I see the empaths first, that would seem backward to what you are describing.
Shaunn
According to Reexa, Saedelthorp is no longer part of the guild or something. Still has her powers, but retired. Maybe she was just referring to her business...
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They are Empaths and most of them are setup with the override.
Howeverm they will not be sensed at the same amount of skill as PC Empaths due to current limitations in the code. We're looking at changing that, but it's fairly low priority at the moment.
-GM Obseden
"To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under heaven."
"Anything's possible. Especially since I'm rewriting the system."
Howeverm they will not be sensed at the same amount of skill as PC Empaths due to current limitations in the code. We're looking at changing that, but it's fairly low priority at the moment.
-GM Obseden
"To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under heaven."
"Anything's possible. Especially since I'm rewriting the system."
>Go find our shop owner and perceive health, she's an empath.
I tried that as well. Where in the cottage is she? I didn't see her in the room descriptions, but tried a few times in each room and she didn't show up.
>I'm not sure if actually determining whether someone is an empath takes more ability to begin with or not.
Fellow Empaths are all you see when you actually start seeing anything. Currently, I can't see anybody but Empaths. I'm told around 80 ranks you start seeing non-empaths some of the time, but I only have 31 ranks, so not going to be seeing them for a while.
Elemancer Opieus, Journeyman Warrior Mage of Elanthia
>Who planned and orchestrated all of this?
>Robot Ninja Pirates.
>We can do even better than this.
>Vampire Zombie Robot Ninja Nazi
I tried that as well. Where in the cottage is she? I didn't see her in the room descriptions, but tried a few times in each room and she didn't show up.
>I'm not sure if actually determining whether someone is an empath takes more ability to begin with or not.
Fellow Empaths are all you see when you actually start seeing anything. Currently, I can't see anybody but Empaths. I'm told around 80 ranks you start seeing non-empaths some of the time, but I only have 31 ranks, so not going to be seeing them for a while.
Elemancer Opieus, Journeyman Warrior Mage of Elanthia
>Who planned and orchestrated all of this?
>Robot Ninja Pirates.
>We can do even better than this.
>Vampire Zombie Robot Ninja Nazi
<<According to Reexa, Saedelthorp is no longer part of the guild or something. Still has her powers, but retired. Maybe she was just referring to her business...>>
Mirinn has never left the guild. She's retired as the position of Khalo rae Moda but that's not remotely retiring from the guild.
<<Where in the cottage is she? I didn't see her in the room descriptions, but tried a few times in each room and she didn't show up.>>
She sleeps at night, so if you're looking for her after dark, that's why you aren't finding her.
GM Reexa
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Mirinn has never left the guild. She's retired as the position of Khalo rae Moda but that's not remotely retiring from the guild.
<<Where in the cottage is she? I didn't see her in the room descriptions, but tried a few times in each room and she didn't show up.>>
She sleeps at night, so if you're looking for her after dark, that's why you aren't finding her.
GM Reexa
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>>You can sense most creatures who live "behind the scenes" as it were.<<
the togs in the healerie aren't technically "behind the scenes" nor is anyone else. The togs are able to hide, but you can't search for them in the healerie, so it relies on your passive ability to sense them... which is to say... broke?
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the togs in the healerie aren't technically "behind the scenes" nor is anyone else. The togs are able to hide, but you can't search for them in the healerie, so it relies on your passive ability to sense them... which is to say... broke?
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>>the togs in the healerie aren't technically "behind the scenes" nor is anyone else. The togs are able to hide, but you can't search for them in the healerie, so it relies on your passive ability to sense them... which is to say... broke?
I don't believe this is entirely accurate. If they were truly hidden, they wouldn't show this:
The presence of a Gor'Tog Attendant.
It would show typical messaging for a hidden person.
In addition, you can 'look' at the attendant even though it does not display in the room description. This would lead me to believe that they are not technically hidden, but more 'behind the scenes' as Ythik said.
Shaunn
I don't believe this is entirely accurate. If they were truly hidden, they wouldn't show this:
The presence of a Gor'Tog Attendant.
It would show typical messaging for a hidden person.
In addition, you can 'look' at the attendant even though it does not display in the room description. This would lead me to believe that they are not technically hidden, but more 'behind the scenes' as Ythik said.
Shaunn
hmm to be honest I never tried looking at them... why look at something that you can't see...
I wonder if the coding limitations at the time were the reason this was done...
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I wonder if the coding limitations at the time were the reason this was done...
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>>the togs in the healerie aren't technically "behind the scenes" nor is anyone else. The togs are able to hide, but you can't search for them in the healerie, so it relies on your passive ability to sense them... which is to say... broke?
I love those togs. Remove a ranger from the empath guild sometime while they have their wolf in there and see what happens.
~Arwinia
Thieves will continue to be dominated by the awesome power of the perceive health ability - that which causes rivers to dry up, babies to cry, and the earth to shake.
Stand back mortal, lest ye health be perceived.
-Ssra
I love those togs. Remove a ranger from the empath guild sometime while they have their wolf in there and see what happens.
~Arwinia
Thieves will continue to be dominated by the awesome power of the perceive health ability - that which causes rivers to dry up, babies to cry, and the earth to shake.
Stand back mortal, lest ye health be perceived.
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>>I love those togs. Remove a ranger from the empath guild sometime while they have their wolf in there and see what happens.<<
you don't even have to do that to see good messaging from the togs... just have the ranger carry the companion down in the healerie... then watch them freak out because they don't put it just "right outside"
I lost a companion once because I couldn't find it... hehe
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you don't even have to do that to see good messaging from the togs... just have the ranger carry the companion down in the healerie... then watch them freak out because they don't put it just "right outside"
I lost a companion once because I couldn't find it... hehe
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>>you don't even have to do that to see good messaging from the togs... just have the ranger carry the companion down in the healerie... then watch them freak out because they don't put it just "right outside"
nah, it's 10x better than that
~Arwinia
Thieves will continue to be dominated by the awesome power of the perceive health ability - that which causes rivers to dry up, babies to cry, and the earth to shake.
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nah, it's 10x better than that
~Arwinia
Thieves will continue to be dominated by the awesome power of the perceive health ability - that which causes rivers to dry up, babies to cry, and the earth to shake.
Stand back mortal, lest ye health be perceived.
-Ssra
