>>At the risk of being more scrolly, could we possilby get incremental messaging, even if it requires a skill check, other than fully healed on regen?

Other than your wounds being healed and Thin ribbons of red-gold light dance around you, suffusing your tingling body in a fiery glow?

Seems to me the messaging is pretty much as complete as it can be.

You get the ribbons glowing message to tell you the spell is in effect.

You get "feel better" messages to tell you when specific wounds are healed. When a wound is completely healed, you get that message too.

You get a message to tell you when the spell disbands when there are no more wounds it can act upon, or when your mana drops below the minimum.

~ Player of Farman et al.

http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/Main_Page

Do you have some of the healing messaging from taking wounds squelched?

You should be seeing some variation like this:

>cast all
You gesture.
Rutilant sparks of light encircle you, bathing you in a warm glow as your body begins to tingle with energy.
>
Your left arm feels somewhat better.
Your left arm is completely healed of all internal injury.
>
Thin ribbons of red-gold light dance around you, suffusing your tingling body in a fiery glow.
Your left arm feels somewhat better.
Your left arm is completely healed of all internal scarring.
>
Your left arm feels somewhat better.
Your left arm is completely healed of all external injury.
>
Your right leg feels somewhat better.
Your right leg is completely healed of all internal injury.
>
You sense a tiny amount of mana slip away from you.
Your nerves feel somewhat better.
>
Your nerves feel somewhat better.

Etc. Etc. until you get "The tingling across your body diminishes as you feel the motes of energy fade away."


The messaging is quite comprehensive as far as I can tell, which is making me thing you have some general healing lines squelched.


~Purehand

You feel that for the moment you've learned all you can about harming shopkeepers.

I think messaging when Regenerate ends could be a little more clear.

I think there's a different message if it ends due to a lack of mana, but when I've got particularly bad nerve wounds, I can't tell if Regenerate ended for nerve/mana failure, or if it ended because it healed everything it can.

>Type health

You still can't tell if it ended from mana failure or internals though.

>You should know when it's mana failure since you can check your attunement whenever you want.

Yes, but... wouldn't you like to see different messaging? I can't believe you wouldn't be able to detect the difference automatically. Then again, empaths still can't see their own injuries, so what do we expect?

I don't think I was being clear.

My empath doesn't have enough PM/Harness such that the minimum 15 is good enough to heal everything, more than that is needed to heal.

Several times I've had it cancel on me because I'm harnessing, say, a "large" amount of mana and have to reharness more mana and then recast Regenerate and find that yes, there were some torso/head internal scars that it missed.

It does it often enough that I harness up to "impressive" (or whatever is between vast and just below extreme mana, I just woke up), and recast just to make sure, because I know at impressive mana, it'll heal even head/eye internal scars.

As an aside, is there a point at which, say, 20 mana is good enough to heal anything, including head/eye internal scarring? After 300 ranks? (Only about 15 ranks away)

All I'm saying is there should be different messaging for:
1. Spell ending because you dropped below the 15 mana min.
2. Spell ending because it healed everything. (with the possible exception of slashes/nerves, since that's a particularly high skill feat)
3. Spell ending because it healed everything it could at that mana level, with there being more it couldn't get. (generally head/torso internal scarring)

>As an aside, is there a point at which, say, 20 mana is good enough to heal anything, including head/eye internal scarring? After 300 ranks? (Only about 15 ranks away)

I believe this happens at 401 PM, but it has been awhile.

>My empath doesn't have enough PM/Harness such that the minimum 15 is good enough to heal everything, more than that is needed to heal.

That sounds like the crux of your problem. There is always a chance of leaking mana no matter how high your skill is, so if you're keeping only the minimum necessary harness, you're asking for the spell to drop. When I cast it I harness to vast, which is 50 I believe. And what are your magic ranks at, actually? I think the other side of it is that your skill just isn't high enough yet to use Regen effectively.

I think people sometimes forget that Regen is a fifth-tier spell. It's not supposed to be easy to use at lower levels of skill.


~ Player of Farman et al.

http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/Main_Page

>>I'll probably see about doing controlled testing to see at how much harnessed mana it takes to heal head/eye internal scarring

The below is done definitely at the border between huge and great, which is at 37 mana for me (assuming the scale doesn't stretch to fit each of our harness pools, but I'm thinking it does). Symphaena is 33rd circle, with PP 119, PM 174, HA 172. Stats range from 20 up to 24, except for reflex at 19, if they matter.

37 appears to be enough to heal all wounds on all locations, depending on nerve damage.
internal chest wounds seem to require 37-40 (spell ended on me, so I assuming minor internal chest plus severe scaring = not enough mana)
37 is enough to heal limbs internal scarring.
37 is too much for healing external scarring to limbs.
37 is enough to heal external scarring to abdomen, back, chest.
37 does not seem to be enough to heal internal scarring to eyes or vitals.

More mana (up to 80!) seemed to have no greater impact on healing ability, but it still feels like the spell gets harder to handle as your total wound value goes down.

tiny leak = 1 mana.

spell drops due to lack of mana/power, despite having valid wound/scar targets to heal. Upon immediate recasting (no change in mana level or nerve damage), it healed something on the first pulse. This isn't supposed to be happening, as I understand it.

spell oddly does not end immediately if there is nothing left to heal given your skill and held mana (went about 3 "ribbons of gold light" messages before the spell ended). No fellow empath to verify if this is strictly true or if the spell is prematurely ending as per previous note.

J'Lo, I'm a ranger.. I'd believe anything.....
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>>As a side note, I see others mentioning harnessing insane amounts of mana. Is that done in smallish chunks throughout the run of the spell, or all up front?<<

Depending on where I am, I harness in chunks of 1-10, usually 10 at Willow Walk fountain, 5 everywhere else.

What I usually do is prep, harness 4 5's, cast, and then every time I get the ribbon atmospheric message, I harness another 5, till I get to impressive.

I know at that mana level, and with my skills, Regen will heal everything that isn't at the damaging+ level, or nerve wounds.

I can't wait for 301 PM and seeing how nerves heal.

>>Nerve damage does not message when it is healed


Just to clarify, I assume you mean getting messaging that its fully healed? Because it definitely tells you when your nerves 'feel better'

Shaunn

I don't think there's really a difference.

If your nerves are fried, you can't hold mana.

If you're not holding mana, the spell ends.

If the spell ends and you can barely move, but are otherwise less than scared, your nerves did it.

If you don't even have a case of bad shakes, your failure to harness did it.


>>--Shnurui-->