Different critters teach brawling to different levels. Some you can learn from, and some you can't learn much from. I use "bob" exclusively. With my barbarian it's bob, feint, draw, sweep, slice, chop, repeat, and when training defenses, it's just bob, bob, bob, bob, bob, etc.

1st Highest: Twohanded Edged - 282
2nd Highest: Heavy Edged - 261
3rd Highest: Brawling - 235

As soon as I start training defenses/multi Brawling will rapidly become my primary weapon skill.

For empaths, the same is true, though "bob" or "circle, bob, weave" work well in either case and will move closely with your armors/defenses depending on critter and how much time you bob and weave.


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Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
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I've been training brawling using maneuvers exclusively since 80 ranks. (When Szrael joined the Empath guild).

Empaths can overhunt easily. That, plus SoP (and later AD, MAF, etc) means that brawling is always easy to learn and lock.

I'm fairly sure there's no "bottom cap" on the maneuvers, so if I wanted (to die) I could take Szrael to armadillos and learn there just fine. Until one of them killed her, rendering the exercise moot.

The point being maybe Empaths aren't the best to ask, due to all of this plus terthood.

I do know plenty of people with hundreds of brawling ranks they got exclusively from bobbing while training defenses.


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>>Well, there's a bottom cap when it comes to creatures. Rats and louts will barely brawling from non-damaging moves. I think that was the original question. My guess would be around cougar to eel level, but I just attack at the low levels.

That's pretty much what I was asking. Didn't know how else to word it. Thanks.

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